Remember the Sabbath and keep it holy

Remember the Sabbath and keep it holy

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Cookie_Parker

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#1 Jan 13, 2013
What does this mean to you? Why only the Sabbath?
Flygerian

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#3 Jan 13, 2013
So one should take 7 days of rest? lol

Cookie_Parker

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#4 Jan 14, 2013
Flygerian wrote:
So one should take 7 days of rest? lol
LOL!!

It's just that it's one of the commandments and the fundies believe this to be true. Problem is, what is Keeping the Sabbath holy?

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#5 Jan 14, 2013
To keep Holy is I believe to set it apart as special.
It is intended as a day of rest.

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#6 Jan 14, 2013
angelinaUK wrote:
To keep Holy is I believe to set it apart as special.
It is intended as a day of rest.
Is not doing anything then what is considered holy?

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#7 Jan 14, 2013
Cookie_Parker wrote:
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Is not doing anything then what is considered holy?
No that's called being lazy.

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#8 Jan 14, 2013
Cookie_Parker wrote:
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Is not doing anything then what is considered holy?
It was meant to be a day of Bible study, Bible discussions, prayer, and quiet introspection with virtually no distractions. This is the only of the 10 commandments that Jesus did not reiterate.

In today's time it is very difficult to obey the Sabbath. When we use utilities, we cause another to work. I am unwilling to turn off all my utilities one day a week, walk to church and go to bed at sunset.

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#9 Jan 14, 2013
Seriously__ wrote:
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It was meant to be a day of Bible study, Bible discussions, prayer, and quiet introspection with virtually no distractions. This is the only of the 10 commandments that Jesus did not reiterate.
In today's time it is very difficult to obey the Sabbath. When we use utilities, we cause another to work. I am unwilling to turn off all my utilities one day a week, walk to church and go to bed at sunset.
So, because Jesus didn't say it, it's like a throw away commandment? OR because it doesn't relate to today's society, it's irrelevant?

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#10 Jan 14, 2013
angelinaUK wrote:
<quoted text>No that's called being lazy.
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Flygerian

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#11 Jan 14, 2013
Seriously__ wrote:
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It was meant to be a day of Bible study, Bible discussions, prayer, and quiet introspection with virtually no distractions. This is the only of the 10 commandments that Jesus did not reiterate.
In today's time it is very difficult to obey the Sabbath. When we use utilities, we cause another to work. I am unwilling to turn off all my utilities one day a week, walk to church and go to bed at sunset.
Where does it say you have to turn off your utilities? Or walk? Or go to bed early? lol

If Jesus didnt reiterate it doesnt that make him a false prophet to Israel who were supposed to follow those commands?

John from Texas

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#12 Jan 14, 2013
There should be a little Sabbath in every day.

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#13 Jan 14, 2013
Cookie_Parker wrote:
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So, because Jesus didn't say it, it's like a throw away commandment? OR because it doesn't relate to today's society, it's irrelevant?
No, I said neither. I admitted I am unwilling/unable to follow it. That in no way negates the commandment. It means only that I violate that commandment without excuse.

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#14 Jan 14, 2013
John from Texas wrote:
There should be a little Sabbath in every day.
I agree. More and more doctors are recommending naps and snoozes at least ONCE a day to get recharged.

As a matter-of-fact...<yawn> ;)

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#15 Jan 14, 2013
Flygerian wrote:
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Where does it say you have to turn off your utilities? Or walk? Or go to bed early? lol
If Jesus didnt reiterate it doesnt that make him a false prophet to Israel who were supposed to follow those commands?
We are not permitted to cause another to work (Deut 5:13, 1 Corinthians 8:13). To use utilities causes another to work.

We are not permitted to light a fire (Exodus 35:3--candles require lighting a fire) and most people do not wish to sit in the dark for extended periods. A battery operated flashlight/torch sould be an option, however.

Legalistically, driving a car is lighting a fire which violate Exodus 35:3. Many progressive Christians and Jews are discounting this as lighting a fire, thus they permit driving.

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#16 Jan 14, 2013
Here is a website about the basic Sabbath rules:

http://www.teshuvah.com/articles/shabbat/sabb...

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#17 Jan 14, 2013
Seriously__ wrote:
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We are not permitted to cause another to work (Deut 5:13, 1 Corinthians 8:13). To use utilities causes another to work.
We are not permitted to light a fire (Exodus 35:3--candles require lighting a fire) and most people do not wish to sit in the dark for extended periods. A battery operated flashlight/torch sould be an option, however.
Legalistically, driving a car is lighting a fire which violate Exodus 35:3. Many progressive Christians and Jews are discounting this as lighting a fire, thus they permit driving.
Oh, and they do make candles that can last over the 25 hours mark so you can light a candle the night before the Sabbath if you do not wish to go to bed at sunset.
Flygerian

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#19 Jan 14, 2013
Seriously__ wrote:
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We are not permitted to cause another to work (Deut 5:13, 1 Corinthians 8:13). To use utilities causes another to work.
Who does it cause to work?
Seriously__ wrote:
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We are not permitted to light a fire (Exodus 35:3--candles require lighting a fire) and most people do not wish to sit in the dark for extended periods. A battery operated flashlight/torch sould be an option, however.
Legalistically, driving a car is lighting a fire which violate Exodus 35:3. Many progressive Christians and Jews are discounting this as lighting a fire, thus they permit driving.
How is driving a car lighting a fire? Where is the fire? Lighting candles is lighting a fire. Turning on a light? No. Driving a car? Where is the fire?

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#20 Jan 14, 2013
Flygerian wrote:
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Who does it cause to work?
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How is driving a car lighting a fire? Where is the fire? Lighting candles is lighting a fire. Turning on a light? No. Driving a car? Where is the fire?
Using utilities cause workers to work at the electric, gas and water plants. These plants are usually maintained and watched over by people 24 hours a day since usage is 24 hours a day.

Cars have combustion engines. Legalists view the spark from the spark plugs as lighting a fire.

Cookie_Parker

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#21 Jan 14, 2013
Seriously__ wrote:
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No, I said neither. I admitted I am unwilling/unable to follow it. That in no way negates the commandment. It means only that I violate that commandment without excuse.
Okay. Thanks for your honesty. Does that mean that you are sinning in your mind? Do commandments have degrees of severity?
Flygerian

Oklahoma City, OK

#22 Jan 14, 2013
Spark does not equal starting a fire

So what you're saying is that if people were not at these plants we couldnt use these utilities? Because I never heard of people working there 24 hours just so we can use these things and that if they werent there for 24 hours that we couldnt use them the way we do

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