David Jeremiah; The Coming Economic A...

David Jeremiah; The Coming Economic Armageddon

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ccrider

Owensboro, KY

#1 Oct 23, 2010
http://www.onenewsnow.com/Politics/Default.as...

David Jeremiah calls Obama a dangerous man. He has some good points.
Thinking

Reading, UK

#2 Oct 23, 2010
Hilarious- he's doing exactly what his family name suggests!

Good thing he isn't called David Goatwanker.
Punisher

Bronxville, NY

#3 Oct 23, 2010
1. "...he does believe Obama's policies are not representative of what the Bible teaches about what should be done in a time such as this."

2. "I do not believe he has been an asset to our country; I don't believe he's moved us forward in a good direction..."

1. who cares what the bible teaches about such things?? Not me! And I know Im not alone, and many in that crowd would be followers...

Now the bible is a economics book too..? how many more real world subjects is this book going to be labeled as? can I use it to repair my motorcycles?

The Absurdity never ends...and the loons never stop abusing the bible and its followers.

2. he might not be the best prez, but its getting ridiculous how he's being vilified for hopping on an already out of control train - that the apathetic US citizenry had a major hand in pushing off the rails - and claim its all his fault.

40 years of out of control political machines, and their loosing their corporate owners on the public all while telling us they were on our side - by playing their faith-related games...and now its Obamas fault.

Pack of loons. Pure lunacy...

The bible will not help us out of this or any economic-social problems...not ever. it might help some individuals with their own struggles, but it will not save this nation or any other - period.

and to think adhering to its vague notions and magic is the mark of a moron.
ccrider

Owensboro, KY

#4 Oct 23, 2010
Punisher: the bible teaches a lot more than you give it credit for or can understand presently. A lot of people do care what the bible says about things. The reason you don't is because you are not a Christian.

Is everything Barry's fault? No. Has he contributed to the huge deficit? That's an understatement, to say the least.
Punisher

Massapequa, NY

#5 Oct 23, 2010
ccrider wrote:
Punisher: the bible teaches a lot more than you give it credit for or can understand presently. A lot of people do care what the bible says about things. The reason you don't is because you are not a Christian.
Is everything Barry's fault? No. Has he contributed to the huge deficit? That's an understatement, to say the least.
TARP - Bush's last gift to the US. Which Obama had no real control over.

Stimulus,(diff than TARP, you know that, right?) too little by all accounts. "His" only mistake was that his people felt that without it Unemployment would top at around 9-10 , and the stimulus would bring it down to around 8%. So they miscalculated. No more than Bush did on many other accounts. As did his predecessors.

Most "experts" who are not free-market zealots (which is what we'll get with a GOP run Congress) predicted that without the Stimulus, it would have topped off at round 13+%...

The bible doesnt teach anything, its a gathering of documents that MUST BE interpreted under a story paradigm, and that means many versions are possible. The bible is inert by itself...

If you could read it in isolation without 2000+ years of interpretation I guarantee you'd never come close to what you believe it says now.

It is not a book of economics, nor a means to deal with social institutions such as complex govt systems and markets. That you think it could, shows some serious naivete and ignorance - period.

Having these discussion with you is like having them with someone who has not read any other serious book, or treatise on any other subjects. Which sometimes I truly think is true of you and many others around here.
Punisher

Massapequa, NY

#6 Oct 23, 2010
CC, try an actual expert and not some xtian proselytizer.

http://www.wnyc.org/shows/lopate/2010/oct/20/...
ccrider

Owensboro, KY

#7 Oct 24, 2010
Punisher wrote:<<<<<
It is not a book of economics, nor a means to deal with social institutions such as complex govt systems and markets. That you think it could, shows some serious naivete and ignorance - period.>>>>> >>>

The bible may not directly use economic terms of today such as "market", "bonds", "stocks", etc. However, there are biblical truths and insights in the bible concerning CHRISTIANS being good stewards with what God has given them. There are 5 verses about money in the following website:
http://christianpf.com/5-bible-verses-about-m...

Please note the last verse from Proverbs about the borrower being servant to the lender. The US owes tons of $ to the Chinese. We cannot condemn their human rights violations too heavily because we are greatly in debt to them.......not just them but other foreign countries.

There are truths in the bible if you will diligently and prayerfully seek them out.

I guess one of the biggest ?s about the Obama administration is this: are they REALLY trying to help improve the economy, or is it a highly orchestrated plot to get us into much worse financial trouble so that it will eventually lead to much MORE government control and much more socialism. When a country is in deep financial ruin, they want someone to come and "fix" things. Is all this just the preliminary for an economic "savior" to eventually come......a person that the people will embrace regardless of the long term consequences......just as long as he gets the economy better....and FAST. Kind of sounds like it might be the anti-Christ, or it could be a predecessor......someone like Hitler.

This person could "fix the economy" while taking away (over time) our guns, our rights, socializing all kinds of things, thus increasing government control to a frightening level.
Carrot_Stick

Miami, FL

#8 Oct 24, 2010
Were you as worried about socialism and the deficit/debt when Bush and Congress did Medicare D with absolutely no way specified to pay for it?

No. Of course you weren't.

Were you as worried about the deficit/debt or human rights when Bush and Congress decided to have a little adventure in Iraq with absolutely no way specified to pay for it?

No. Of course you weren't.

Were you worried about your own constitutionally specified rights under Bush when they actually did (and still do) suffer in ways that you're probably not even capable of understanding?

No. Of course you weren't.
Carrot_Stick

Miami, FL

#9 Oct 24, 2010
Punisher wrote:
Pack of loons. Pure lunacy...
You're too kind.
ccrider

Owensboro, KY

#10 Oct 24, 2010
Carrot Stick: I was not totally satisfied with Bush. Concerning 9-11.......what was he supposed to do? Let the Muslim terrorists get away with it?

I would like to see a concerted effort by the government to try to get this country TOTALLY debt free......no fussing between Dems/Reps but a team effort to try to do this. Get us debt free.....owing no one.......will likely take YEARS, if it is even possible.
Carrot_Stick

Miami, FL

#11 Oct 24, 2010
ccrider wrote:
Carrot Stick: I was not totally satisfied with Bush. Concerning 9-11.......what was he supposed to do? Let the Muslim terrorists get away with it?
That's exactly what he did, and to the tune of a million or so Iraqi civilian lives. And you worry about a Hitler?*shakes head*
ccrider wrote:
I would like to see a concerted effort by the government to try to get this country TOTALLY debt free......no fussing between Dems/Reps but a team effort to try to do this. Get us debt free.....owing no one.......will likely take YEARS, if it is even possible.
It's not possible. It's not possible precisely because of poorly educated voters such as yourself that are worried about this or that grand plot by your fairy tale's bad guy. Whenever someone says "socialism" you roll over on your back with your legs in the air like the imbecilic cowards that you are. Has it occurred to you that if our govt. governed for the people, rather than for big business, that things like health care would actually be affordable and budget busting social programs like Medicare/caid wouldn't be so budget busting? No. Of course you haven't because govt. regulating business is OMG! socialism! Have you considered that if we didn't give the military industrial complex a huge stimulus package each and every year that maybe our debt wouldn't be so bad? Of course you haven't because you're so frightened of anything and everything that isn't the same as your inbred hillbilly culture must be a potential threat.

If you love this country as you say you do, then do her the biggest favor that is in your power to do: DON'T VOTE.
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#12 Oct 24, 2010
>>>ccrider
I guess one of the biggest ?s about the Obama administration is this: are they REALLY trying to help improve the economy, or is it a highly orchestrated plot to get us into much worse financial trouble so that it will eventually lead to much MORE government control and much more socialism. When a country is in deep financial ruin, they want someone to come and "fix" things. Is all this just the preliminary for an economic "savior" to eventually come......a person that the people will embrace regardless of the long term consequences......just as long as he gets the economy better....and FAST. Kind of sounds like it might be the anti-Christ, or it could be a predecessor......someone like Hitler.

>>>Gillette
I'm sorry but you are really, really fvcking stupid.

It's unintelligent, under-educated paranoid Jesus Freak SHEEP like you who will dance to the tune of any manipulative right wing radio host or "expert" who is trying to manipulate you into voting them into power and keeping them there.

>>>ccrider
This person could "fix the economy" while taking away (over time) our guns, our rights, socializing all kinds of things, thus increasing government control to a frightening level.

>>>Gillette
What's frightening is how easily idiot Jesus Freaks like you are manipulated into supporting the agenda of the oil billionaires, etc. who fund and control this "Tea Party" nonsense.

>>>ccrider
I was not totally satisfied with Bush. Concerning 9-11.......what was he supposed to do? Let the Muslim terrorists get away with it?

>>>Gillette
Well, you fvcking MORON, Bush attacked Iraq, a country that had NOTHING TO DO with 9/11 and was not a haven for Islamic extremists. How is that "not letting them get away with it"?

But hey, Bush claimed to be born again and love Jesus, right?
ccrider

Owensboro, KY

#13 Oct 25, 2010

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Conch republic

#14 Oct 25, 2010
ccrider wrote:
http://www.onenewsnow.com/Poli tics/Default.aspx?id=1215504
Have you EVER considered reading information from DIFFERENT sources? Ya know, if those jim jones folks had heard something ELSE they would have found out he was a liar!.. But sadly they only listened to him.. kinda like what you do.. Drink the kool-aide!
ccrider

Owensboro, KY

#15 Oct 25, 2010
Troth wrote:<<<

Have you EVER considered reading information from DIFFERENT sources? Ya know, if those jim jones folks had heard something ELSE they would have found out he was a liar!.. But sadly they only listened to him.. kinda like what you do.. Drink the kool-aide! >>>>

You ever read or heard what the Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson (black man) has to say about Obama?
ccrider

Owensboro, KY

#17 Oct 26, 2010
http://www.onenewsnow.com/Politics/Default.as...

Jeremiah and White House spokesman Dubois "agree to disagree".

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