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Many seem confused on what is expected of Christians in regard to interactions/witnessing with non-believers.

First off we are forbidden from judging a non-believer; hence, IMO we are forbidden from correcting a non-believer since correction only comes after judgement.

1 Corinthians 5:9-13

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9 I wrote you in my letter not to associate with immoral people; 10 I did not at all mean with the immoral people of this world, or with the covetous and swindlers, or with idolaters, for then you would have to go out of the world. 11 But [a]actually, I wrote to you not to associate [b]with any so-called brother if he is an immoral person, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or a swindler—not even to eat with such a one. 12 For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Do you not judge those who are within the church? 13 But those who are outside, God [c]judges. Remove the wicked man from among yourselves.

I found what seems to be a pretty good site on a Biblical way to witness ones testimony for Christ to non-believers. Thought I would share it and see if it clears up any confusion on the issue:

https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/k-lee7/www/iccf/00/...

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'Have you accepted Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior?' is always a good ice-breaker.

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Whatever happened to 'lead by example'.

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15th Dalai Lama wrote:
Whatever happened to 'lead by example'.
Hopefully nothing :). Some have simply lost their way for one reason or another. We are to witness with our actions as much or more than with our words. We are to live a life of peace, love and joy such that others want what we have. Here is one of the quotes from that site I rather like:

"A testimony is something we say that bears witness (points to) what we actually live out."

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15th Dalai Lama wrote:
'Have you accepted Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior?' is always a good ice-breaker.
This is good in that of in itself, it is not threatening and can lead to open communication.

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15th Dalai Lama wrote:
Whatever happened to 'lead by example'.
IMO, seriously does lead by example.

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IMO, seriously does lead by example.
I respect your opinion. The topic of discussion, however, appears to be prosthelytizing.

I did express my opinion regarding the 'have you accepted....' approach but fortunately Topix bombed out and it didn't get posted.

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15th Dalai Lama wrote:
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I respect your opinion. The topic of discussion, however, appears to be prosthelytizing.
I did express my opinion regarding the 'have you accepted....' approach but fortunately Topix bombed out and it didn't get posted.
I know. I also think leading by example is the best way, which many fundies just don't understand.
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Walk the talk.

http://bible.cc/james/2-16.htm Read Cross References to the right as well - excellent info.

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15th Dalai Lama wrote:
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I did express my opinion regarding the 'have you accepted....' approach but fortunately Topix bombed out and it didn't get posted.
I can read and replied to your "have you accepted...." comment. It will likely show up for you eventually as topix usually corrects itself, it just takes time :).

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tickedoffchic wrote:
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IMO, seriously does lead by example.
I appreciate your comment. I do *try* to follow the Christian path as I understand it, and I appreciate knowing it shows in posts. Respectfully curbing my tongue or simply remaining silent is not something that comes naturally for me, so some days it requires more effort than others. On days it seems impossible, I try to stay away from topix altogether :).

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I appreciate your comment. I do *try* to follow the Christian path as I understand it, and I appreciate knowing it shows in posts. Respectfully curbing my tongue or simply remaining silent is not something that comes naturally for me, so some days it requires more effort than others. On days it seems impossible, I try to stay away from topix altogether :).
You're very welcome! I think you're a great lady!
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Seriously__ wrote:
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This is good in that of in itself, it is not threatening and can lead to open communication.
Or one of the following

1) Being the recipient of much mirth
2) Being bitten by a large and aggressive dog.
3) A trip to casualty.
4) A lecture on the benefits of <insert belief of choice> over Christianity.
5) The offer of a free Koran
6) Arrest.

etc, etc.

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15th Dalai Lama wrote:
Whatever happened to 'lead by example'.
That is a very good question.

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Roland_Deschain wrote:
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Or one of the following
1) Being the recipient of much mirth
2) Being bitten by a large and aggressive dog.
3) A trip to casualty.
4) A lecture on the benefits of <insert belief of choice> over Christianity.
5) The offer of a free Koran
6) Arrest.
etc, etc.
Yup, it could, but usually those incidents only happen because the person you asked has been approached the wrong way too many times in the past. I wonder if churches ever educate their members on the Biblical ways of witnessing prior to sending the members out. Most of what I see on here is not at all Biblical, and yet those behaving contrary to scripture seem to feel since they include scripture or are paraphrasing scripture they are "doing good". I have to wonder who educated them on the methods they use?

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angelinaUK wrote:
<quoted text>That is a very good question.
I suspect that people are taking the salvation message that "all you must do is accept Christ" to be saved in a very wrong light. Many seem to take this as a license to behave in any manner they please because their salvation is secure. Being on an anonymous forum does also bring out the worst in many people as well. They behave here in a manner that they would never consider in real life. People on anonymous forums are frequently not treated as real people. All you see are the words and only a partial picture of that person and that dehumanizes a person.

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Many seem confused on what is expected of Christians in regard to interactions/witnessing with non-believers.
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COMMENT: Many seem confused on what is expected of Christians in regard to interactions/witnessing with non-believers.

ANSWER: because many are fools; not seekers of God's will. All they have to do is read the N.T. to discover what God requires from them.

COMMENT: First off we are forbidden from judging a non-believer; hence, IMO we are forbidden from correcting a non-believer since correction only comes after judgement.

ANSWER: Judging does not come with correction. Judging one that is within, for example, is to expose his behaviour to others with your judgement of him, whatever this
may be: just your comments and decision to exclude him from your book of christian, or to excommunicate him from your church. This kind of judging does not include
any other action; just the penalty.

b) Judging them that are without = deciding that gays may not get married, that fornicators (whom are not christians) are evil and ought to receive some kind of retribution
etc, etc.

b) Judging them that are within = judging them on
1) the following of the commandments , the gospel
2) fornication
3) being baptize and real
4) being christian in their ways etc., etc.,

COMMENT: IMO we are forbidden from correcting a non-believer since correction only comes after judgement.

ANSWER: no human being has the authority to correct an unbeliever. Christians are ordered to preach the Gospel to those who care to hear them and leave those whom
do not want to hear alone. You can't correct anybody, only preach. You can't even teach, for God does that him self; and only he can do that.

What Jusus told those he sent:

MAR 6: 11 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto
you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.
MAR 6: 12 And they went out, and preached that men should repent.

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- The Gospel is not the way you like to see it: it is the way it is.
- Jesus taught those who follow him only to Preach what he taught them - for they can never Teach you.

Calling The Unbeliever, Confronting The Lukewarm, Exposing The Hypocrite
Do Not Follow Men, Nor Churches! Come to Christ, says God!
http://www.theholychristianchurch.com/christi...
http://www.theholychristianchurch.com/baptism...

- Murder: the unauthorized (by God) killing of a creature
- Killing: the authorized (by God) putting to death of a creature
- Judging: In Christianity, the prohibited 'judging' is to execute a penalty upon another as retribution for their sins.
- CO1 5: 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?

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Seriously__ wrote:
Many seem confused on what is expected of Christians in regard to interactions/witnessing with non-believers.
First off we are forbidden from judging a non-believer; hence, IMO we are forbidden from correcting a non-believer since correction only comes after judgement.
1 Corinthians 5:9-13
New American Standard Bible (NASB)
9 I wrote you in my letter not to associate with immoral people; 10 I did not at all mean with the immoral people of this world, or with the covetous and swindlers, or with idolaters, for then you would have to go out of the world. 11 But [a]actually, I wrote to you not to associate [b]with any so-called brother if he is an immoral person, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or a swindler—not even to eat with such a one. 12 For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Do you not judge those who are within the church? 13 But those who are outside, God [c]judges. Remove the wicked man from among yourselves.
I found what seems to be a pretty good site on a Biblical way to witness ones testimony for Christ to non-believers. Thought I would share it and see if it clears up any confusion on the issue:
https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/k-lee7/www/iccf/00/...
Some evidence for the existance of your god is always a good starter.

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Seriously__ wrote:
Many seem confused on what is expected of Christians in regard to interactions/witnessing with non-believers.
First off we are forbidden from judging a non-believer; hence, IMO we are forbidden from correcting a non-believer since correction only comes after judgement.
1 Corinthians 5:9-13
New American Standard Bible (NASB)
9 I wrote you in my letter not to associate with immoral people; 10 I did not at all mean with the immoral people of this world, or with the covetous and swindlers, or with idolaters, for then you would have to go out of the world. 11 But [a]actually, I wrote to you not to associate [b]with any so-called brother if he is an immoral person, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or a swindler—not even to eat with such a one. 12 For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Do you not judge those who are within the church? 13 But those who are outside, God [c]judges. Remove the wicked man from among yourselves.
I found what seems to be a pretty good site on a Biblical way to witness ones testimony for Christ to non-believers. Thought I would share it and see if it clears up any confusion on the issue:
https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/k-lee7/www/iccf/00/...
That's it??? If anything this will push someone on the fence over to Atheism.

Thanks, I think????
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Seriously__ wrote:
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This is good in that of in itself, it is not threatening and can lead to open communication.
Uh, not really as it ASSUMES the other person needs your POV in their life. The old "have you accepted the Lord as your personal...savior." Tells me that your judging me in NEED of saving.

I sincerely hope you dont ever open up with that line ? Its condescending, intrusive and judgmental.

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