god says: worship me or I'll torture you for ever

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Thinking

Windsor, UK

#1 Dec 17, 2013
Why does god need hell?
Old GT

Carmel, IN

#2 Dec 17, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Why does god need hell?
It's not "worship me or I'll torture you forever".
It's more "Let Me save you from going into the lake with the Newtown killer, Ted Bundy, Joe Stalin and the whole lot".
Thinking

Windsor, UK

#3 Dec 17, 2013
What about the god that allows miscarriages?
What about the god that allows cotdeaths?
What about the god that allows childhood leukaemia?
What is the fate of that god?
Old GT wrote:
<quoted text> It's not "worship me or I'll torture you forever".
It's more "Let Me save you from going into the lake with the Newtown killer, Ted Bundy, Joe Stalin and the whole lot".

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Since: Nov 12

saved by grace through faith

#4 Dec 17, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Why does god need hell?
It was originally created for the Devil and his angels.
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Matthew 25:41- Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
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There is no reason for anyone to end up in the Lake of Fire since God has provided the perfect sacrifice in Christ Jesus:
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Romans 5:8- But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
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2 Corinthians 5:21- For He hath made Him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him.
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This salvation is a FREE GIFT that can't be earned! All it is takes is TRUE FAITH!
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Ephesians 2:8-9
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
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Romans 10:9- That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
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If a person ends up in Hell, it is because they sent themselves there!
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2 Thessalonians 1:8-9
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
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9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
Old GT

Carmel, IN

#5 Dec 17, 2013
Thinking wrote:
What about the god that allows miscarriages?
What about the god that allows cotdeaths?
What about the god that allows childhood leukaemia?
What is the fate of that god?
<quoted text>
The cause of the tragedy, Satan, goes into the lake. The souls of these little ones are comforted by God forever.
Old GT

Carmel, IN

#7 Dec 17, 2013
Hardie-Har-Har wrote:
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He's a sicko,... that's WHY!
Here's the scene:
> It's roughly estimated that some 60 billion souls have eaten, sh!t, pissed,...
and fvcked all over the earth since Adam and Eve;
> Jesus said, "Many are called,... but few bother to show up" in his salvation religion;
> That's about -01%, which means that some 59.4 billion souls end up in "HELL" so far!
Jehovah:
(during family breakfast which includes his Holy Ghost [Wife] and 2 sons, Jesus and Satan)
"I've notice there's lots of evil down on the Earth.... I've had it up to here! HELL is called for!"
Jesus: "What's 'hell', Dad??
Jehovah: It's a place we're gonna build outta fire and brimstone, hot enough to melt steel!
Satan: Hot-Diggity-Dog!... Sounds like a blast!
Jehovah: Since U love it so much,... I'll put U in charge!
Jesus: With so many evil souls, Dad,... we'll need lots of expensive sulfur and brimstone.
Jehovah: I'm makin' a deal with Vulcan on that count, Son.... He owes me a special favor.
Mother (Holy Spirit): Eat your breakfast, Dears,... the altar sacrifices are getting cold....
To Be Continued!...
Hardie-Har-Har!
It's Matthew 25:41 that conducts God rules hell. God created it, He controls it.
Old GT

Carmel, IN

#8 Dec 17, 2013
Hardie-Har-Har wrote:
<quoted text>
He's a sicko,... that's WHY!
Here's the scene:
> It's roughly estimated that some 60 billion souls have eaten, sh!t, pissed,...
and fvcked all over the earth since Adam and Eve;
> Jesus said, "Many are called,... but few bother to show up" in his salvation religion;
> That's about -01%, which means that some 59.4 billion souls end up in "HELL" so far!
Jehovah:
(during family breakfast which includes his Holy Ghost [Wife] and 2 sons, Jesus and Satan)
"I've notice there's lots of evil down on the Earth.... I've had it up to here! HELL is called for!"
Jesus: "What's 'hell', Dad??
Jehovah: It's a place we're gonna build outta fire and brimstone, hot enough to melt steel!
Satan: Hot-Diggity-Dog!... Sounds like a blast!
Jehovah: Since U love it so much,... I'll put U in charge!
Jesus: With so many evil souls, Dad,... we'll need lots of expensive sulfur and brimstone.
Jehovah: I'm makin' a deal with Vulcan on that count, Son.... He owes me a special favor.
Mother (Holy Spirit): Eat your breakfast, Dears,... the altar sacrifices are getting cold....
To Be Continued!...
Hardie-Har-Har!
Enter by the narrow gate, few find it.
Wide is the way that leads to destruction and many go that way.
Jesus
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#9 Dec 17, 2013
God takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that they should turn from their wicked way and live. There is no fire in hell, it is not physical torture, but it is mental terror. It is also not forever, eventually your spirit will be snuffed out (drowned) and you will cease to exist. Hell is a black hole and it is devoid of Energy, including heat and light. It is also solitary confinement. There are three entrances to heaven and hell on earth, the Bermuda triangle, the Devils triangle, and the third is in the north atlantic off the coast of Norway. Each serves two continents.
hmmmmm

Union Mills, NC

#10 Dec 17, 2013
susanblange wrote:
God takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that they should turn from their wicked way and live. There is no fire in hell, it is not physical torture, but it is mental terror. It is also not forever, eventually your spirit will be snuffed out (drowned) and you will cease to exist. Hell is a black hole and it is devoid of Energy, including heat and light. It is also solitary confinement. There are three entrances to heaven and hell on earth, the Bermuda triangle, the Devils triangle, and the third is in the north atlantic off the coast of Norway. Each serves two continents.
I'm not being sarcastic when I ask this...
How do you know what hell is? How do you know for certain? I lived and worked in the triangle and never did I see a gateway or any abnormalite.

Just curious to your way of thinking.

Since: Nov 13

United States

#11 Dec 18, 2013
Because the Bible god isn't really the Divine just an imposter pretendingto be.
Big Al

Hibbing, MN

#12 Dec 18, 2013
Old GT wrote:
<quoted text> It's not "worship me or I'll torture you forever".
It's more "Let Me save you from going into the lake with the Newtown killer, Ted Bundy, Joe Stalin and the whole lot".
And who is responsible for creating this lake? And who made the rule that anyone who does not “let ‘God’ save them” has to go into this lake forever?

Anyway you way you look at it believe in “Me” and worship “Me” or you will be tortured forever is your “God’s” message to “His” creations
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#13 Dec 18, 2013
hmmmmm wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not being sarcastic when I ask this...
How do you know what hell is? How do you know for certain? I lived and worked in the triangle and never did I see a gateway or any abnormalite.
Just curious to your way of thinking.
I had a vision of my own death in October, 1983 where I went to heaven and saw hell. I have no personal experience of hell, it is just based on logic and observation. Isaiah 57:20-21 "But the wicked are like the troubled sea, when it cannot rest, whose waters cast up mire and dirt. There is no peace, saith my God, to the wicked". A lot of odd things happen in these triangles and I am just offering an explanation.
Huh

Sussex, WI

#14 Dec 18, 2013
Thinking wrote:
What about the god that allows miscarriages?
What about the god that allows cotdeaths?
What about the god that allows childhood leukaemia?
What is the fate of that god?
<quoted text>
What about it?
Thinking

Windsor, UK

#15 Dec 18, 2013
Exactly.
Huh wrote:
<quoted text>
What about it?
Old GT

Carmel, IN

#16 Dec 18, 2013
Big Al wrote:
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And who is responsible for creating this lake? And who made the rule that anyone who does not “let ‘God’ save them” has to go into this lake forever?
Anyway you way you look at it believe in “Me” and worship “Me” or you will be tortured forever is your “God’s” message to “His” creations
No, it's "obey".

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#17 Dec 18, 2013
Old GT wrote:
<quoted text>Enter by the narrow gate, few find it.
Wide is the way that leads to destruction and many go that way.
Jesus
The "narrow gate" is MEDITATION, lame brain!
Old GT

Carmel, IN

#18 Dec 18, 2013
tickedoffchic wrote:
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The "narrow gate" is MEDITATION, lame brain!
No, the narrow gate is obeying Christ.
Hebrews 5:9

Since: Nov 13

United States

#19 Dec 18, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>I had a vision of my own death in October, 1983 where I went to heaven and saw hell. I have no personal experience of hell, it is just based on logic and observation. Isaiah 57:20-21 "But the wicked are like the troubled sea, when it cannot rest, whose waters cast up mire and dirt. There is no peace, saith my God, to the wicked". A lot of odd things happen in these triangles and I am just offering an explanation.
Deeply held religious beliefs come into visible expression in the spirit realms, just as they do in the physical realm. We create our own experience. Eventually, restrictive minds slowly open and expand allowing them to accept greater understanding. Then they are ready to move from their limited concept of life to the eternal adventure, for there is ever more to know, to do, to be." (Jan Price)
Flygerian

Fort Worth, TX

#20 Dec 18, 2013
Where does God say this?
Flygerian

Fort Worth, TX

#21 Dec 18, 2013
Truthseeker007 wrote:
<quoted text>
Deeply held religious beliefs come into visible expression in the spirit realms, just as they do in the physical realm. We create our own experience. Eventually, restrictive minds slowly open and expand allowing them to accept greater understanding. Then they are ready to move from their limited concept of life to the eternal adventure, for there is ever more to know, to do, to be." (Jan Price)
How can a "spiritual realm" even exist without a creator? How can this existence even exist without a creator? If you are atheist that is...

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