Christianity's biggest lie
Punisher

Yonkers, NY

#130 May 8, 2013
Armed Dangerous wrote:
<quoted text>Try Bible School Please!
Which one? Which sectarian one? Or which neighborhood basement version? Or online...
Punisher

Yonkers, NY

#131 May 8, 2013
Allen Richards wrote:
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Can you prove that there is a Satan?
Well the be all and end all of what is real and not - Xtianity - says he exists. So He must.

Do you doubt and contradict your own Religion? Without Satan then all the evil of the world is on your God's hands.(as it is anyway) And we'd have to toss the apology of Theodicy right out the window.
Punisher

Yonkers, NY

#132 May 8, 2013
Armed Dangerous wrote:
The most important reason that Jesus has to be God is that if He is not God, His death would not have been sufficient to pay the penalty for the sins of the world (1 John 2:2). A created being, which Jesus would be if He were not God, could not pay the infinite penalty required for sin against an infinite God. Only God could pay such and infinite penalty. Only God could take on the sins of the world (2 Corinthians 5:21), die, and be resurrected, proving His victory over sin and death.
Do you have anything but first grader stuff?

Do you know anything about the huge fight over Jesus' true nature in the early days of Xtianity?

“Call sign: Apache One Six”

Since: Mar 11

US 62 @ US 81

#133 May 8, 2013
Punisher wrote:
<quoted text>Can you show us a Bible in English that uses the word "tsippor"..?
Who reads the Bible, OT or NT, in any of the original languages? Do they use the Hebrew in Xtian churches? Do they speak Aramaic in Xtian Churches? Do they speak in the original Greek in American Proty Churches? Latin we know is now a novelty for some RCC's...so who among the millions of pew-sitters is reading the Bible in any of the "original" languages..?
What matters most is what has been taught, what has been read for centuries now in the European vernaculars, and mostly in English.
But here's an idea, why dont YOU go and re-do the Bible. GO and create a NEW version that is as close to the "originals" (there not actually being any original Bible that all others came from) use all the oldest known manuscripts, scrolls, and scraps, etc - and write a version that is correct in all aspects of translation.
You go do that, and correct the Bible and Xtianity in part and whole. So that for the first time in history there can be no debate as to what the "original" words were, and what they really mean in translation. Settle all the translation debates.
But we know no "True" xtian will ever do that. Too much at stake, like the entirety of the Religions doctrines.
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Bulk wrap! Lies! Mindless twisting of words! Why don't you go stick all this mindless argument where the sun don't shine? The accusation was that the Bible says that the bat is a bird, the earth is flat, the locust has four legs, and that man was cretaed before animls and that animals were created before man. The challenge was not all this mindless bulk wrap yuou are vomiting. Maybe you can show where the Bible says any of this?

“Call sign: Apache One Six”

Since: Mar 11

US 62 @ US 81

#134 May 8, 2013
Punisher wrote:
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Well thats a tough thing...for a Xtian to demand...
Prove any Xtian priest/preacher is actually a priest/preacher of Jesus.
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Why? There is nobody here claiming any of that but there is one idiot here claiming to be Satanic Ho, I mean priest. I challenged that specific claim not some imaginary stuff like you.

“Call sign: Apache One Six”

Since: Mar 11

US 62 @ US 81

#135 May 8, 2013
Punisher wrote:
<quoted text>Well the be all and end all of what is real and not - Xtianity - says he exists. So He must.
Do you doubt and contradict your own Religion? Without Satan then all the evil of the world is on your God's hands.(as it is anyway) And we'd have to toss the apology of Theodicy right out the window.
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Mindless bulk wrap! The idiot who claims to be a Satanic Ho said there is no God. So I challenged him to prove that he is what he claims to be.
mztza

Mesa, AZ

#136 May 8, 2013
it's rather interesting,
some give OPINIONS,
based on nothing
opinions, are easy, according to ones feelings, anger, even hatred
what logic, but nothing based on facts
when one gives an opinion, it should be based on
what they have experienced
what they've seen
by what they were taught
common sense
gut feeling
from the heart
without strings attached

Since: Feb 10

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#137 May 8, 2013
mztza wrote:
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anyone can say, anything
proof, is more credible
you have asked for proof
then enlighten us with facts
nonsense is not acceptable,
in any kind of SUBJECT
facts, where, recorded, when, by whom,
what scripture says the world is flat, where in the scriptures says bats are birds
you want to prove your point of view,
redirect aimlessly is not credible
i'm sure your smart enough to understand that
nonsense doesn't work
Everything I posted is true.

And I'm smart enough to know that YOU'RE not smart enough, since you think the contraction of "you are" is "your."

Leviticus 11:13-19 "And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,
and the vulture, and the kite after his kind; every raven after his kind; and the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and the hawk after his kind, and the little owl, and the cormorant, and the great owl. All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you. Yet these may ye eat of every flying creeping thing that goeth upon all four, which have legs above their feet. All other flying creeping things, which have four feet. Don't touch any dead creeping things. These are unclean to you among all that creep: whosoever doth touch them, when they be dead, shall be unclean until the even. And the swan, and the pelican, and the gier eagle,And the stork, the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat."

Bats aren't birds, dead things don;t creep, insects don't have four legs (they have six,) and no fowls have four legs (they have two.)

The Jewish conception of a flat earth is found in biblical and post biblical times. Sources: The Distribution of Land and Sea on the Earth's Surface According to Hebrew Sources, Solomon Gandz, Proceedings of the American Academy for Jewish Research, Vol. 22 (1953), pp. 23-53, published by American Academy for Jewish Research, and Topic Overview: Judaism, Encyclopedia of Science and Religion, Ed. J. Wentzel Vrede van Huyssteen. Vol. 2. New York: Macmillan Reference USA, 2003. p477-483. Hava Tirosh-Samuelson).

Man was created AFTER animals (Genesis 1) and BEFORE animals (Genesis 2.)

See? I'm smarter than you, and everything I posted is true.

I accept your apology.

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#138 May 8, 2013
Armed Dangerous wrote:
The most important reason that Jesus has to be God is that if He is not God, His death would not have been sufficient to pay the penalty for the sins of the world (1 John 2:2). A created being, which Jesus would be if He were not God, could not pay the infinite penalty required for sin against an infinite God. Only God could pay such and infinite penalty. Only God could take on the sins of the world (2 Corinthians 5:21), die, and be resurrected, proving His victory over sin and death.
Right - whoever created the Jesus myth knew that, in order to win over the Jews and convert the Zoroastrians and people from other faiths, Jesus HAD to be god.

But since God cannot die then Jesus cannot be God.

And if God stopped being God for even a brief moment (so that he could experience what it was like to be human) then he wasn't always God.

And if God didn't already know what it was like to be human, then God isn't omniscient.

All you need is a little logic to see that the Christian definition of God is a self-contradictory impossibility, and all the adherents are suffering from cognitive dissonance.

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#139 May 8, 2013
Allen Richards wrote:
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Bulk wrap! Lies! Mindless twisting of words! Why don't you go stick all this mindless argument where the sun don't shine? The accusation was that the Bible says that the bat is a bird, the earth is flat, the locust has four legs, and that man was cretaed before animls and that animals were created before man. The challenge was not all this mindless bulk wrap yuou are vomiting. Maybe you can show where the Bible says any of this?
Scroll up, idiot.

I accept your concession and your apology.

“Call sign: Apache One Six”

Since: Mar 11

US 62 @ US 81

#140 May 8, 2013
HighlyEvolved wrote:
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Scroll up, idiot.
I accept your concession and your apology.
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Read the scripture. YOu have not proved your argument. The word wrongly translated fowl refers to creatures that fly. The reference to locust says four feet and two jumping legs above those feet. No flat earth the word "circle" means dome. As for men being created before and after animals. Please cite the specific verses?
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I accept you concession and apology. Brain dead atheASSts think they can quote 2-3 verses out-of-context and prove their lying attacks.

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#141 May 8, 2013
For the idiots that remain unconvinced about the creation contradiction, lo and behold:

Genesis 1: God creates the Earth (which is covered with water), light and darkness, day and night (Day 1); God creates the sky (Day 2); God makes dry ground appear and creates vegetation (Day 4); God creates animals that live in the water and air (Day 5)God creates animals that live on land, saw that it was good, then creates man and woman (Day 6).

Genesis 2: "Now no shrub had yet appeared on the earth and no plant had yet sprung up, for the Lord God had not sent rain on the earth and there was no one to work the ground, but streams came up from the earth and watered the whole surface of the ground. Then the Lord God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being... The Lord God made all kinds of trees grow out of the ground — trees that were pleasing to the eye and good for food... The Lord God said,'It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him... Now the Lord God formed out of the ground all the wild animals and all the birds in the sky... But for Adam no suitable helper was found. So the Lord God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man’s ribs and then closed up the place with flesh. Then the Lord God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man."

In Genesis 1 God creates vegetation, then animals, then Man and Woman.

In genesis 2 God creates Man, then vegetation, then animals (to help the Man work the land), then Woman.

So, according to Scripture God made Man AFTER the animals (Genesis 1) and also BEFORE the animals (Genesis 2.)

Of course the idiots wearing the Jesus goggles can't see what's plainly written right in front of their faces.

Cognitive dissonance once again rears its pointy little head...

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#142 May 8, 2013
Armed Dangerous wrote:
<quoted text>Try Bible School Please!
Been there, done that, got the degree in Comparative Religion.

“Call sign: Apache One Six”

Since: Mar 11

US 62 @ US 81

#143 May 8, 2013
HighlyEvolved wrote:
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Been there, done that, got the degree in Comparative Religion.
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Bulk Wrap!

Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#144 May 8, 2013
Armed Dangerous wrote:
<quoted text>The only proof you got is lies from the pit of hell. The Bible tells us only a fool would say there isn't no God, you know what that makes you don't you?
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HAHAHAHAHAHA you are funny, your bible was written by men and is nothing more than any other fiction book HAHAHAHAHA
Next you will be quoting Tolkien HAHAHAHAHA got some Stephen King quotes going on? HAHAHAHA

Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#145 May 8, 2013
Allen Richards wrote:
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Read the scripture. YOu have not proved your argument. The word wrongly translated fowl refers to creatures that fly. The reference to locust says four feet and two jumping legs above those feet. No flat earth the word "circle" means dome. As for men being created before and after animals. Please cite the specific verses?
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I accept you concession and apology. Brain dead atheASSts think they can quote 2-3 verses out-of-context and prove their lying attacks.
There is no scripture. Shall I read you a book by Dean Koontz?

“Call sign: Apache One Six”

Since: Mar 11

US 62 @ US 81

#146 May 8, 2013
HighlyEvolved wrote:
For the idiots that remain unconvinced about the creation contradiction, lo and behold:
Genesis 1: God creates the Earth (which is covered with water), light and darkness, day and night (Day 1); God creates the sky (Day 2); God makes dry ground appear and creates vegetation (Day 4); God creates animals that live in the water and air (Day 5)God creates animals that live on land, saw that it was good, then creates man and woman (Day 6).
Genesis 2: "Now no shrub had yet appeared on the earth and no plant had yet sprung up, for the Lord God had not sent rain on the earth and there was no one to work the ground, but streams came up from the earth and watered the whole surface of the ground. Then the Lord God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being... The Lord God made all kinds of trees grow out of the ground — trees that were pleasing to the eye and good for food... The Lord God said,'It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him... Now the Lord God formed out of the ground all the wild animals and all the birds in the sky... But for Adam no suitable helper was found. So the Lord God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man’s ribs and then closed up the place with flesh. Then the Lord God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man."
In Genesis 1 God creates vegetation, then animals, then Man and Woman.
In genesis 2 God creates Man, then vegetation, then animals (to help the Man work the land), then Woman.
So, according to Scripture God made Man AFTER the animals (Genesis 1) and also BEFORE the animals (Genesis 2.)
Of course the idiots wearing the Jesus goggles can't see what's plainly written right in front of their faces.
Cognitive dissonance once again rears its pointy little head...
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For the idiots who can only copy/pste mindless arguments from atheASSts-R-us!
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Gen chap. 1 describes the creation. Chap. 2 v. 1-3. states that the creation was completed and God rested from His work.
<><Gen 2:1-3
(1) Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
(2) And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
(3) And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
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The rest of chap. 2 merely recaps the creation without specifically stating any order. Note plants are mentioned in vs. 5, man in vs. 7, and trees vs. 9.
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Got any more asinine C/Ps from atheASSts-R-us?

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#147 May 8, 2013
Allen Richards wrote:
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Bulk Wrap!
Prove I don't.

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Since: Mar 11

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#148 May 8, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>There is no scripture. Shall I read you a book by Dean Koontz?
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Repeat this mantra a few times. Elf Gopher Cures!

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#149 May 8, 2013
HighlyEvolved wrote:
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Prove I don't.
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You made the first assertion you prove that you do?

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