Even Jesus spoke AGAINST Gay Marriage...
Ant

Palo Alto, CA

#22 Jul 5, 2013
Punisher wrote:
<quoted text>
Who cares? Not most people...the Bible is irrelevant to our legislation system. This Nation and its legislative system is not an altar or worship. We're not a formed into a more perfect Union to please your silly imaginary friends.
And that is why we have such a corrupt government with no morals. Its just greedy people looking out for themselves and out to crap on the poor. When God starts judgment on this wicked nation soon for all of its immorality, you will which they have biblical morals.

“God Loves Ilks!”

Since: Feb 08

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#23 Jul 5, 2013
Ant wrote:
<quoted text>
And that is why we have such a corrupt government with no morals. Its just greedy people looking out for themselves and out to crap on the poor. When God starts judgment on this wicked nation soon for all of its immorality, you will which they have biblical morals.
You are yet another one who does not understand the way the word 'nation' is used in scripture and what it actually means.
It does not mean a country at all, not the way we speak of 'nation' today. It refers to ethic groups of people.

Since: Jul 12

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#24 Jul 5, 2013
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>You are yet another one who does not understand the way the word 'nation' is used in scripture and what it actually means.
It does not mean a country at all, not the way we speak of 'nation' today. It refers to ethic groups of people.
Oh my! LOL!
Ant

Palo Alto, CA

#25 Jul 5, 2013
Talk all the crap you want, but scriptures speaks for itself about sexual immorality.

WHAT GOD THINKS ABOUT IT
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Leviticus 18:22
22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination

Leviticus 20:13
13 If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them.

WHAT HAPPENS FOR NOT REPENTING OF SEXUAL IMMORTALITY
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1 Corinthians 6:9-11
9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,[a] nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.

Ephesians 5:5
5 For this you know,[a] that no fornicator, unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God.

Colossians 3:5-9
5 Therefore put to death your members which are on the earth: fornication, uncleanness, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry. 6 Because of these things the wrath of God is coming upon the sons of disobedience, 7 in which you yourselves once walked when you lived in them.

Revelation 21:8
8 But the cowardly, unbelieving,[a] abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”

“God Loves Ilks!”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#26 Jul 5, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh my! LOL!
Nation
Throughout this site, the term "nation" is used in the classical sense, meaning a group of people with a shared history and a sense of a group identity. As the term is used in this site, a nation is not necessarily a territorial or political entity. When referring to a territorial or political entity, this site uses the term "country" or "state." The Jewish People are considered to be a nation, contrasted with the other nations of the world
- Glossary of Jewish Terminology
http://www.jewfaq.org/glossary.htm

Since: Jul 12

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#27 Jul 5, 2013
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>Nation
Throughout this site, the term "nation" is used in the classical sense, meaning a group of people with a shared history and a sense of a group identity. As the term is used in this site, a nation is not necessarily a territorial or political entity. When referring to a territorial or political entity, this site uses the term "country" or "state." The Jewish People are considered to be a nation, contrasted with the other nations of the world
- Glossary of Jewish Terminology
http://www.jewfaq.org/glossary.htm
You should be ashamed of your Biblical ignorance.

“God Loves Ilks!”

Since: Feb 08

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#28 Jul 5, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
<quoted text>
You should be ashamed of your Biblical ignorance.
I am sorry that you can't say that God is going to send His wrath on the NATION of America since that is not what is meant by the word 'nation' in scripture, dear.

It is, therefore, your own ignorance that is showing here, not mine.

Course, if one can't threaten others with 'God's wrath' concerning the hot topics of today like SSM or abortion, why their WHOLE ballgame falls flat, doesn't it?

<smile>

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#29 Jul 5, 2013
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>I am sorry that you can't say that God is going to send His wrath on the NATION of America since that is not what is meant by the word 'nation' in scripture, dear.
It is, therefore, your own ignorance that is showing here, not mine.
Course, if one can't threaten others with 'God's wrath' concerning the hot topics of today like SSM or abortion, why their WHOLE ballgame falls flat, doesn't it?
<smile>
"making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly"

2 Peter 2:4-6 (NKJV)
4 For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment; 5 and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly; 6 and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly;

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#30 Jul 5, 2013
Ant wrote:
Talk all the crap you want, but scriptures speaks for itself about sexual immorality.
WHAT GOD THINKS ABOUT IT
----------
Leviticus 18:22
22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination
Leviticus 20:13
13 If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them.
WHAT HAPPENS FOR NOT REPENTING OF SEXUAL IMMORTALITY
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1 Corinthians 6:9-11
9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,[a] nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.
Ephesians 5:5
5 For this you know,[a] that no fornicator, unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God.
Colossians 3:5-9
5 Therefore put to death your members which are on the earth: fornication, uncleanness, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry. 6 Because of these things the wrath of God is coming upon the sons of disobedience, 7 in which you yourselves once walked when you lived in them.
Revelation 21:8
8 But the cowardly, unbelieving,[a] abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”
Don't forget these scriptural gems...

Genesis 19:31-35
King James Version (KJV)

31 And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth:
32 Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
33 And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.

34 And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
35 And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.

Numbers 31:13-47
King James Version (KJV)
17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

(Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)
If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.

(Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)
If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.

(Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)
Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst. And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, women ravished; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the city.

Yes, Full of morals.

Since: Sep 08

Anderson, IN

#31 Jul 5, 2013
Disciple wrote:
they will still find a way to make it fit their sin
None of those quotes are Christ's and none pertain to homosexuality..they are rewritten NIV quotes that have twisted the words of the bible to coincide with the republican party emotional wedge issues so the right pays no attention to the tearing down of our country economically and morally.
Tall Guy

Atlanta, GA

#33 Sep 3, 2013
Cookie_Parker wrote:
<quoted text>
None of those quotes are Christ's and none pertain to homosexuality..they are rewritten NIV quotes that have twisted the words of the bible to coincide with the republican party emotional wedge issues so the right pays no attention to the tearing down of our country economically and morally.
Until you show 1 verse where God or Jesus himself gives homosexuality the green light, you comment will be the usual non-biblical backed nonsense as usual.
drunksmacker

Hollywood, FL

#34 Sep 4, 2013
Tall Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
Until you show 1 verse where God or Jesus himself gives homosexuality the green light, you comment will be the usual non-biblical backed nonsense as usual.
Tall guy, no brains!

Go pound yer pud

Since: Sep 08

Anderson, IN

#35 Sep 4, 2013
Ant wrote:
Talk all the crap you want, but scriptures speaks for itself about sexual immorality.
WHAT GOD THINKS ABOUT IT
----------
Leviticus 18:22
22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination
Leviticus 20:13
13 If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them.
WHAT HAPPENS FOR NOT REPENTING OF SEXUAL IMMORTALITY
----------
1 Corinthians 6:9-11
9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,[a] nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.
Ephesians 5:5
5 For this you know,[a] that no fornicator, unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God.
Colossians 3:5-9
5 Therefore put to death your members which are on the earth: fornication, uncleanness, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry. 6 Because of these things the wrath of God is coming upon the sons of disobedience, 7 in which you yourselves once walked when you lived in them.
Revelation 21:8
8 But the cowardly, unbelieving,[a] abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”
Not scriptures as in God's word...jewish law...what the jewish priests believed...not coming from God.

And revelations is just some guys' bad trip on hash.

Since: Sep 08

Anderson, IN

#36 Sep 4, 2013
Ant wrote:
IN THE BEGINNING
Genesis 1:27
27 So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.
Genesis 2:24
24 Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.
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JESUS CONFIRMS WHAT MARRIAGE IS!
Matthew 19
3 The Pharisees also came to Him, testing Him, and saying to Him,“Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for just any reason?”
4 And He answered and said to them,“Have you not read that He who made[a] them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’ 5 and said,‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? 6 So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.”
7 They said to Him,“Why then did Moses command to give a certificate of divorce, and to put her away?”
8 He said to them,“Moses, because of the hardness of your hearts, permitted you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so.
9 And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality,[d] and marries another, commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery.”
So Jesus taught from the Torah and it is pretty clear and straight forward that marriage is between a man and a woman only, so Gay marriage and homosexuality will never be okay in the eyes of God.
Gay Marriage, Homosexuality, and Sexual Immorality is wrong, no matter how one tries to flip scriptures to suit them.
Lev 18:22, Lev 20:13, Rom 1:24-32, 1 Cor 6:9, Rev 21:8
Not quoting Christ, but Jewish laws...not the same as Christ saying Homosexuality is wrong. Believe me, if treating the poor and least of those in society is as if you are treating Christ and he mentions it, if homosexuality were an abomination, he would have said so.

So, take your "CHrist can be found in the jewish history and the jewish priest laws" of the born again evangelical reconstruction of Christianity and try again...cuz it doesn't fly as truth.

Since: Sep 08

Anderson, IN

#37 Sep 4, 2013
10uhsee wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't forget these scriptural gems...
Genesis 19:31-35
King James Version (KJV)
31 And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth:
32 Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
33 And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
34 And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
35 And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
Numbers 31:13-47
King James Version (KJV)
17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.
(Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)
If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.
(Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)
If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.
(Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)
Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst. And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, women ravished; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the city.
Yes, Full of morals.
Very good....god's word, huh?
Ant

Palo Alto, CA

#38 Sep 5, 2013
Cookie_Parker wrote:
<quoted text>
Not quoting Christ, but Jewish laws...not the same as Christ saying Homosexuality is wrong. Believe me, if treating the poor and least of those in society is as if you are treating Christ and he mentions it, if homosexuality were an abomination, he would have said so.
So, take your "CHrist can be found in the jewish history and the jewish priest laws" of the born again evangelical reconstruction of Christianity and try again...cuz it doesn't fly as truth.
Matthew 5:29
29 If your right eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.

I see you are down to 1 eye...only one more eye to go to make you righteousness.
Tall Guy

Atlanta, GA

#39 Sep 8, 2013
Cookie_Parker wrote:
<quoted text>
None of those quotes are Christ's and none pertain to homosexuality..they are rewritten NIV quotes that have twisted the words of the bible to coincide with the republican party emotional wedge issues so the right pays no attention to the tearing down of our country economically and morally.
Can you list Christ teaching on the topic of homosexuality?

List where is said it was okay?
List where he said it is no longer a sin?
List where he said is greater than God?
List where he said he can canceled his fathers laws?

Ill be waiting for your answer that you will not be able to provide.

Since: Sep 08

Anderson, IN

#40 Sep 9, 2013
Tall Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
Until you show 1 verse where God or Jesus himself gives homosexuality the green light, you comment will be the usual non-biblical backed nonsense as usual.
Show me where he's spoke against it. That's the focus here. Christ came to make the word flesh...so if it were an abomination, the way you describe it, he would have said it. YOU are the one playing Christ, not me.

Since: Sep 08

Anderson, IN

#41 Sep 9, 2013
Tall Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
Can you list Christ teaching on the topic of homosexuality?
List where is said it was okay?
List where he said it is no longer a sin?
List where he said is greater than God?
List where he said he can canceled his fathers laws?
Ill be waiting for your answer that you will not be able to provide.
He never condemned it. YOU guys call it an abomination. NO where in the Bible does GOD nor CHRIST call it an abomination.
Ant

Palo Alto, CA

#42 Sep 9, 2013
Cookie_Parker wrote:
<quoted text>
He never condemned it. YOU guys call it an abomination. NO where in the Bible does GOD nor CHRIST call it an abomination.
While you are correct that it originally might not be called an abomination, God has only recognized marriage between a male and female only, so gay sex is sexual immorality.

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