Prophet of Jesus Christ

San Antonio, TX

#82 Oct 8, 2013
ThePreacherman01 wrote:
<quoted text>My son Little Joe isn't here today we do not take any challenge from you or anyone else on these threads. The Lord have put me here to help lost souls not to fight against them. Little Joe is in prayer for the rest of today, he is praying for all the lost souls on these threads. Little Joe will be done with His praying at midnight....
We shall see what God has to say about all this you have said to me.

“Jesus is Lord”

Since: Aug 11

Greenwood, Indiana

#83 Oct 8, 2013
Prophet of Jesus Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
We shall see what God has to say about all this you have said to me.
I got nothing to fear about anything that I have said to you or anyone else. I don't tell lies, I bring the truth of Gods Bible to everyone on here.
Prophet of Jesus Christ

San Antonio, TX

#84 Oct 8, 2013
ThePreacherman01 wrote:
<quoted text>I got nothing to fear about anything that I have said to you or anyone else. I don't tell lies, I bring the truth of Gods Bible to everyone on here.
We shall see what God has to say about all this you have said to me.

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Albuquerque

#85 Oct 8, 2013
ThePreacherman01 wrote:
<quoted text>I got nothing to fear about anything that I have said to you or anyone else. I don't tell lies, I bring the truth of Gods Bible to everyone on here.
Seventy-five thousand members in your imaginary congregation shipping five hundred thousand tons of food a year and you think people don't know you're a liar? You're nuts.
Big Bad Joe

Indianapolis, IN

#86 Oct 8, 2013
15th Dalai Lama wrote:
<quoted text>
Seventy-five thousand members in your imaginary congregation shipping five hundred thousand tons of food a year and you think people don't know you're a liar? You're nuts.
Who cares what you and the rest of these people think or say! I know how much food they ship out, I am one of the truck driver who drive the truck to the east cost every year on Christmas day. The Pastor isn't a liar like you so go wash your mouth for telling all those lies.

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Albuquerque

#87 Oct 8, 2013
Big Bad Joe wrote:
<quoted text>Who cares what you and the rest of these people think or say! I know how much food they ship out, I am one of the truck driver who drive the truck to the east cost every year on Christmas day. The Pastor isn't a liar like you so go wash your mouth for telling all those lies.
You are crazy, preacherman. The scuttlebutt has it, however, that you are a truck driver, not a pastor. Nevertheless, though you can't do the math so I'll have to do it for you, you just might be able to tell us the gross weight limit on the Interstate Highway system. Probably not so I'll tell you that too. The gross vehicle weight limit on the Interstate Highway System is 40 tons. That means you would have to drive over sea forty times a day and then drive back. This is how we know your full of baboon excrement. If you really are a truck driver you might just possibly know the theory of truck driving states you should load your truck in one place and unload it in another.

So yeah, preacherman, you're a liar and a poor one at that.

God bless you.
Big Bad Joe

Indianapolis, IN

#88 Oct 9, 2013
15th Dalai Lama wrote:
<quoted text>
You are crazy, preacherman. The scuttlebutt has it, however, that you are a truck driver, not a pastor. Nevertheless, though you can't do the math so I'll have to do it for you, you just might be able to tell us the gross weight limit on the Interstate Highway system. Probably not so I'll tell you that too. The gross vehicle weight limit on the Interstate Highway System is 40 tons. That means you would have to drive over sea forty times a day and then drive back. This is how we know your full of baboon excrement. If you really are a truck driver you might just possibly know the theory of truck driving states you should load your truck in one place and unload it in another.
So yeah, preacherman, you're a liar and a poor one at that.
God bless you.
You can't think for your self can you big mouth? I am not the Preacherman01 he is my brother I work for him as a truck driver and I am not the only truck driver they got. I know the weight limit and I don't need some big mouth telling me what it is. SW./FB. Churches have got five Churches now we got people all over the United States, that give us food for the poor. So use your brains for once instead of sitting on them like you do most of the time and stop causing trouble and these stupid lies you make up.
JohnnyTrunk

Philadelphia, PA

#89 Oct 9, 2013
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>Actually, the New Testament is a Catholic document and, therefore, the Catholic Church knows ALL about it.
The Catholic church did not come about until 100`s of years after the new testament was written.

“God Loves Ilks!”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#90 Oct 9, 2013
JohnnyTrunk wrote:
<quoted text>
The Catholic church did not come about until 100`s of years after the new testament was written.
The Canon of Scripture
by Sebastian R. Fama

The list of books that comprise the Bible is referred to as the canon. During Jesus' time there were two Old Testament canons in use. There was the Palestinian canon, which is identical to the Protestant Old Testament, and there was the Alexandrian canon – also known as the Septuagint – which is identical to the Catholic Old Testament. The reason why the Catholic Bible has the longer canon is simple. The Apostles and the early Church used the Septuagint.

Protestants use the shorter canon because it matches the present day Jewish canon. They will often quote Romans 3:2, which says, "The Jews are entrusted with the oracles of God." They reason that since God entrusted the Old Testament to the Jews, they should be the ones who determine which books belong in it.

This reasoning presents a couple of problems. Firstly, both Old Testament canons were received from the Jews. Thus neither canon is eliminated by this verse. Secondly, the Jews didn't settle on the Palestinian canon until at least 90 AD at the Council of Jamnia. This was well after authority had passed from the Jews to the Church (Acts 4:19). Ironically it was at the Council of Jamnia that the Jews also rejected the New Testament. Logically speaking, anyone who would consider Jamnia as being authoritative would also have to reject the New Testament.

Most Church Fathers regarded the Septuagint as the standard form of the Old Testament. When the Councils of Hippo (393 AD) and Carthage (397 AD) set the canon of the New Testament they also confirmed the Septuagint as the Old Testament. Further evidence of the Septuagint's acceptance by the early Church can be found in the New Testament itself. It quotes the Old Testament approximately 350 times. Three hundred of those quotes are from the Septuagint. Surely this amounts to an overwhelming endorsement by the early Church.

Some raise objections over supposed errors. One example is in Judith 1:1-7. Here Nebuchadnezzar is called the king of Assyria when in fact it is well known that he was the king of Babylon. But Judith is not a historical book; it's a religious novel. The combining of the Babylonians and the Assyrians is a representation of the enemies of Israel. Both had conquered Israel at one time or another. Judith means Jewess and she represents the whole of Judaism. The lesson of the book is to rely on God's way of deliverance no matter what the method. Similar objections are raised over verses in Tobit, which are likewise symbolic and not historical.

Critics will often dismiss the role of the Church in determining the New Testament. They contend that the Holy Spirit caused the books of the New Testament to fall into place on their own. They would have us believe that the Church councils that dealt with the canon were nothing more than bishops getting together to say "Wow, look at that." Once again, history tells us another story.

The book of 1 Clement was considered inspired by most in the early Church (Eusebius, The History of the Church 3:16, 325 AD). We also know that the book of Revelation was disputed by many at the time. And yet Revelation made it into the canon and 1 Clement didn't. That's because the Church set the canon of Scripture, and she did so under the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Just as God worked infallibly through men in writing the Bible, He worked infallibly through men in communicating exactly which books comprised it.

And so the canon stood. Unchanged until the Protestant Reformation when Martin Luther threw out the seven Deuterocanonicals because they contradicted his new doctrines. He also wanted to throw out Hebrews, James, 2 Peter, 2 and 3 John, Jude, and Revelation. Fortunately, cooler heads prevailed.

http://www.staycatholic.com/the_canon_of_scri...
JohnnyTrunk

Philadelphia, PA

#91 Oct 9, 2013
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>
The Canon of Scripture
by Sebastian R. Fama
The list of books that comprise the Bible is referred to as the canon. During Jesus' time there were two Old Testament canons in use. There was the Palestinian canon, which is identical to the Protestant Old Testament, and there was the Alexandrian canon – also known as the Septuagint – which is identical to the Catholic Old Testament. The reason why the Catholic Bible has the longer canon is simple. The Apostles and the early Church used the Septuagint.
Protestants use the shorter canon because it matches the present day Jewish canon. They will often quote Romans 3:2, which says, "The Jews are entrusted with the oracles of God." They reason that since God entrusted the Old Testament to the Jews, they should be the ones who determine which books belong in it.
This reasoning presents a couple of problems. Firstly, both Old Testament canons were received from the Jews. Thus neither canon is eliminated by this verse. Secondly, the Jews didn't settle on the Palestinian canon until at least 90 AD at the Council of Jamnia. This was well after authority had passed from the Jews to the Church (Acts 4:19). Ironically it was at the Council of Jamnia that the Jews also rejected the New Testament. Logically speaking, anyone who would consider Jamnia as being authoritative would also have to reject the New Testament.
Most Church Fathers regarded the Septuagint as the standard form of the Old Testament. When the Councils of Hippo (393 AD) and Carthage (397 AD) set the canon of the New Testament they also confirmed the Septuagint as the Old Testament. Further evidence of the Septuagint's acceptance by the early Church can be found in the New Testament itself. It quotes the Old Testament approximately 350 times. Three hundred of those quotes are from the Septuagint. Surely this amounts to an overwhelming endorsement by the early Church.
Some raise objections over supposed errors. One example is in Judith 1:1-7. Here Nebuchadnezzar is called the king of Assyria when in fact it is well known that he was the king of Babylon. But Judith is not a historical book; it's a religious novel. The combining of the Babylonians and the Assyrians is a representation of the enemies of Israel. Both had conquered Israel at one time or another. Judith means Jewess and she represents the whole of Judaism. The lesson of the book is to rely on God's way of deliverance no matter what the method. Similar objections are raised over verses in Tobit, which are likewise symbolic and not historical.
Critics will often dismiss the role of the Church in determining the New Testament. They contend that the Holy Spirit caused the books of the New Testament to fall into place on their own. They would have us believe that the Church councils that dealt with the canon were nothing more than bishops getting together to say "Wow, look at that." Once again, history tells us another story.
The book of 1 Clement was considered inspired by most in the early Church (Eusebius, The History of the Church 3:16, 325 AD). We also know that the book of Revelation was disputed by many at the time. And yet Revelation made it into the canon and 1 Clement didn't. That's because the Church set the canon of Scripture, and she did so under the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Just as God worked infallibly through men in writing the Bible, He worked infallibly through men in communicating exactly which books comprised it.
And so the canon stood. Unchanged until the Protestant Reformation when Martin Luther threw out the seven Deuterocanonicals because they contradicted his new doctrines. He also wanted to throw
http://www.staycatholic.com/the_canon_of_scri...
You Can go into Bible canon all you want but this still does not prove that the Roman Catholic Church was around in the time of Jesus and the apostles.
The early Church was christian not catholic which is a whole new pagan ball game.

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Albuquerque

#92 Oct 9, 2013
JohnnyTrunk wrote:
<quoted text>
The Catholic church did not come about until 100`s of years after the new testament was written.
That's not true. Aside from some early writings attributed to Paul, most of the New Testament was written by contemporaries of Saint Clement. Though the lives of Linus and Cletus are a bit more difficult to document, if they indeed preceded Clement as bishops of Rome they would have been Paul's contemporaries.

Granted, it took a few hundred years to weed out the heresies and establish which books, more or less, would constitute the New Testament, the Catholic Church emerged at the time of the Apostolic Fathers.

God bless you.
JohnnyTrunk

Philadelphia, PA

#93 Oct 10, 2013
15th Dalai Lama wrote:
<quoted text>
That's not true. Aside from some early writings attributed to Paul, most of the New Testament was written by contemporaries of Saint Clement. Though the lives of Linus and Cletus are a bit more difficult to document, if they indeed preceded Clement as bishops of Rome they would have been Paul's contemporaries.
Granted, it took a few hundred years to weed out the heresies and establish which books, more or less, would constitute the New Testament, the Catholic Church emerged at the time of the Apostolic Fathers.
God bless you.
That is just what the Catholic church claims about itself.

“Jesus is Lord”

Since: Aug 11

Greenwood, Indiana

#95 Oct 10, 2013
15th Dalai Lama wrote:
<quoted text>
That's not true. Aside from some early writings attributed to Paul, most of the New Testament was written by contemporaries of Saint Clement. Though the lives of Linus and Cletus are a bit more difficult to document, if they indeed preceded Clement as bishops of Rome they would have been Paul's contemporaries.
Granted, it took a few hundred years to weed out the heresies and establish which books, more or less, would constitute the New Testament, the Catholic Church emerged at the time of the Apostolic Fathers.
God bless you.
FALSE!!

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Albuquerque

#96 Oct 10, 2013
ThePreacherman01 wrote:
<quoted text>FALSE!!
GO AWAY !

“Jesus is Lord”

Since: Aug 11

Greenwood, Indiana

#97 Oct 10, 2013
The concept of confession of sin to a priest is nowhere taught in Scripture. First the NT does not teach that there are to be priests in the New Covenant "FACT". Instead, the NT teaches that al believers are priests. First Peter 2:5-9 and Revelation 1:6 and 510 both describe believers as "a kingdom of priests".
When it comes to confession of sin, believers are told in 1 John 1:9 to confess their sins to God. God is faithful and just to forgive our sins as we confess them to Him. James 5:16 speaks of confessing our trespasses "to one another," but this is not the same as confessing sins to a priest as the RCC teaches. Priests/church leaders are nowhere mentioned in the context of James 5:16. Further, James 5:16 does not link forgiveness of sins with the confession of sins "to one another.
If anyone tell you something else they are telling you a bunch of lies FACT END OF STORY!!

“God Loves Ilks!”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#98 Oct 10, 2013
15th Dalai Lama wrote:
<quoted text>
GO AWAY !
LOL

“God Loves Ilks!”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#99 Oct 10, 2013
ThePreacherman01 wrote:
The concept of confession of sin to a priest is nowhere taught in Scripture. First the NT does not teach that there are to be priests in the New Covenant "FACT". Instead, the NT teaches that al believers are priests. First Peter 2:5-9 and Revelation 1:6 and 510 both describe believers as "a kingdom of priests".
When it comes to confession of sin, believers are told in 1 John 1:9 to confess their sins to God. God is faithful and just to forgive our sins as we confess them to Him. James 5:16 speaks of confessing our trespasses "to one another," but this is not the same as confessing sins to a priest as the RCC teaches. Priests/church leaders are nowhere mentioned in the context of James 5:16. Further, James 5:16 does not link forgiveness of sins with the confession of sins "to one another.
If anyone tell you something else they are telling you a bunch of lies FACT END OF STORY!!
Jesus has power to forgive sins.

Matthew 9:1-8
Healing of paralytic - "Which is easier to say your sins are forgiven or ..." Son of Man has the authority to forgive sins.
Mark 2:10
Jesus says the Son of Man has authority to forgive sins on earth.
Luke 7:48
"He said to her, Your sins are forgiven."
1 John 5:16
There is sin that is not deadly.
See also:
Acts 2:38, 1 John 1:9

Jesus gives his power to forgive sins to His priests.

Matthew 16:19
Jesus gives the Apostles the power to bind and loose sins.
Matthew 18:18
Whatever you bind and loose on earth, so it is in Heaven.
John 20:22
If you forgive anyone’s sins, they are forgiven; if you retain anyone’s sins, they are retained.
John 20:23
After saying this he breathed on them and said: Receive the Holy Spirit.(Recall Genesis 2:7)
2 Corinthians 5:17-20
"God ... has reconciled us to himself ... given us the ministry of reconciliation."
James 5:14-15
"Presbyters of the church ... pray over him ... he will be forgiven." (Prayer of presbyters forgives sin.)
See also:
Luke 22:29-30, James 5:16

Sacrament of Holy Orders.

"The Church is the extension of Christ's incarnation, and that extension takes place through the sacraments."

Scott Hahn , Swear to God, Page 22

Instituted by Christ Our Lord.

Luke 22:19
He took the bread, said the blessing, broke it and said to the Apostles, Do this in memory of me.
(The bishops are the successors of the Apostles. Priests partake in the bishops work.)
John 20:21-23
"As the Father has sent me, so I send you ... and He breathed on them saying 'Receive the Holy Spirit."

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Conferred by the imposition of or laying on of hands.

Acts 6:6
The Apostles prayed and laid hands on them.
Acts 13:3
"They laid hands on them and sent them off."
Acts 14:22
They appointed presbyters in each church.
1 Timothy 4:14
Gift received through the laying on of hands of presbyterate.
2 Timothy 1:6
Gift of God you have received through the imposition of hands.
Titus 1:5
Appoint presbyters in every town, as I directed you.
See also:
1 Timothy 5:22, James 5:14
JohnnyTrunk

Philadelphia, PA

#103 Oct 11, 2013
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>Jesus has power to forgive sins.

"God ... has reconciled us to himself ... given us the ministry of reconciliation."
James 5:14-15
"Presbyters of the church ... pray over him ... he will be forgiven." (Prayer of presbyters forgives sin.)
See also:
Luke 22:29-30, James 5:16
Presbyters were Elders not priests.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#104 Oct 12, 2013
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>LOL
God is the Judge and only God can forgive sins. That is one of the reasons we fear the Lord. Psalm 130:4 "But there is forgiveness with thee, that thou mayest be feared" Jesus is not God and Jesus will also be judged by God. He has been reincarnated and this time I don't think he will make it. The idols will be abolished and their memory will perish.

Since: Aug 08

Somewhere in Ireland

#105 Oct 12, 2013
Big Bad Joe wrote:
<quoted text>You can't think for your self can you big mouth? I am not the Preacherman01 he is my brother I work for him as a truck driver and I am not the only truck driver they got. I know the weight limit and I don't need some big mouth telling me what it is. SW./FB. Churches have got five Churches now we got people all over the United States, that give us food for the poor. So use your brains for once instead of sitting on them like you do most of the time and stop causing trouble and these stupid lies you make up.
So where do these churches meet? Your congregation must know where to meet, so why can't you tell everyone here where that is? Who knows, someone on Topix might just live close enough to go to one of your church meetings and see for themselves if what you and your "brother" says is true. It would really shut up the doubters, so how about it Preacherman's "brother"?

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