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# If you believe in Noah's Ark, you are a certifiable moron

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NoamChimpsky

“Religion is for stupid people”

Since: May 08

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#1 Dec 21, 2008
There is zero evidence of a worldwide flood. Let's put aside the fact that a great flood would have been physically impossible and that there are no geological records indicating one ever happened, at least while humans existed, and just use our logic on this one.

Here's what the Dallas zoo needs every single day.

* A ton of hay
* 35 pounds of fish
* 50 pounds of meat
* 100 stalks of celery
* five pounds of red onions
* 100 pounds of carrots
* 25 pounds of spinach
* 15 pounds of kale
* 10 pounds of mixed vegetables
* 150 pounds of sweet potatoes
* 30 ears of corn
* four loaves of wheat bread
* 24 eggs
* a pound of yogurt
* 40 pounds of bananas
* eight pounds of blueberries
* 170 oranges
* 500 apples
* 36 cantaloupes
* four papayas
* 250 rodents (the variety pack)
* 6000 mealworms
* 600 wax worms
* 7500 crickets

Remember, it rained for 40 days/nights, and then they had to wait around for the water to drain away (again, where did it go?) for some more weeks. This list of food is what the Dallas Zoo needs every day. Multiply this by 50 or 60 days... Say that Noah only needed half a ton of hay a day. That's 30 tons of hay for the whole cruise. Exactly where did they keep this? How did they gather it all in advance of the rain? If you gathered 100 pounds of hay every day, it would take you 20 days per ton. So you'd have to do nothing but gather hay for 600 days to get 30 tons together.

Now I'm using logic again here, so I'm sure I've lost you by now, but if it rained for 40 days, enough to cover the highest mountain peaks in the world, please tell me exactly where did all that water go? It would have taken years for it to evaporate or be absorbed into the soil, so where did it disappear to?

And how did the animals get there? How exactly did the wombats and kangaroos get to the middle east from Australia? Did the swim? Did the Polar bears swim tens of thousands of miles to get there?

This is such a ludicrous fairy tale I could sit here all day poking holes in this nonsense, just asking common sense questions. You don't even need science to disprove the Noah's Ark myth, just a brain.

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#2 Dec 21, 2008
I may be getting just a little forgetful but I am sure we already had a couple of very long threads on this subject quite recently.

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Since: Aug 08

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#3 Dec 21, 2008
NoamChimpsky wrote:

This is such a ludicrous fairy tale I could sit here all day poking holes in this nonsense, just asking common sense questions. You don't even need science to disprove the Noah's Ark myth, just a brain.
What you have to remember is that any Christian worth his salt can explain away all the arguments you use to show that the story of Noah's ark can't be true, with three little words, "God did it!". That way not only do you not need science, you don't even need a brain!

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#4 Dec 21, 2008
250 rodents (the variety pack)

lmao...thats good...is there a return deposit when the snakes sh/t the carcass out...?

wont argue the logic...but some will...and give the good old, MAGIC HAPPENED. god stilled the appetites, did the loaves and fishes thing for noah, put the animals in a dormant state, etc...all without biblical proof.

funny that that wasnt ever mentioned in the telling. because you have to think the first people to hear that story had the same Q's the stupidest child would have...where did all the poop go? what did they eat? and how? you mean a sloth travlled all the way from SAmerica in time...? and they all traveled back in all that muck and mire, little short legged animals could walk thru it all? and the predators didnt attack the prey animals...?

and of course they'll post all the silly flood geology stuff...

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Gabbylittleangel
#5 Dec 21, 2008
angelinaUK wrote:
I may be getting just a little forgetful but I am sure we already had a couple of very long threads on this subject quite recently.

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#6 Dec 21, 2008
Gabbylittleangel wrote:
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you trust everything you read on the internet?

theres no proof of the flood, none. but lots of twisted stuff made out to be science.

lmao...

more lies and obsfuscations on the internet than truths...

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#7 Dec 21, 2008
I see the ICON fairy is alive and well today...

labeling others, the xtian way.

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#8 Dec 21, 2008
Gabbylittleangel wrote:
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so by your logic (lol) reliance on google, everyone is correct, and nobodys wrong...so bascially everyone on these threads is at a google impasse.

you post a link, I post a counter link, and so on...impasse, nobodys right/wrong. unless you can of course pull an actual rabbit out of your hat. like say, hard, physical, testable evidence...? hmm?

so if I google "the real god" will I get his email address? his myspace page? web page?

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Gabbylittleangel
#9 Dec 21, 2008
Light Sensitive wrote:
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you trust everything you read on the internet?
theres no proof of the flood, none. but lots of twisted stuff made out to be science.
lmao...
more lies and obsfuscations on the internet than truths...

do you believe anything about anything?

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Gabbylittleangel
#10 Dec 21, 2008
Chimpsky;
"Genesis 6:&#65279;21&#65279; And you shall take for yourself of all food that is eaten, and you shall gather itto yourself; and it shall be food for you and for them.Â”

The Bible says that God thought about that. He covered that base too.
There is evidence of the flood, if you care to do the study and research.
I find it a bit silly to attempt to address issues that nonbelievers have concerning the flood or any other issue that they are focused on unless they can get past Genesis 1:1. If you don't believe that verse, then it is totally pointless to discuss the flood, Moses, Abraham, the Cross, the resurrection, heaven, hell, or how corn can grow from seed that has dried up.

Either you believe that God exist, or you don't. Start there.

You see, it would be silly for me to go to an evolution forum and argue if dogs evolved from cats or if elephants evolved from pine trees if I don't believe in evolution in the first place.

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NoamChimpsky

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#12 Dec 21, 2008
Gabbylittleangel wrote:
Chimpsky;
"Genesis 6:&#65279;21&#65279; And you shall take for yourself of all food that is eaten, and you shall gather itto yourself; and it shall be food for you and for them.Â”
The Bible says that God thought about that. He covered that base too.
There is evidence of the flood, if you care to do the study and research.
I find it a bit silly to attempt to address issues that nonbelievers have concerning the flood or any other issue that they are focused on unless they can get past Genesis 1:1. If you don't believe that verse, then it is totally pointless to discuss the flood, Moses, Abraham, the Cross, the resurrection, heaven, hell, or how corn can grow from seed that has dried up.
Either you believe that God exist, or you don't. Start there.
You see, it would be silly for me to go to an evolution forum and argue if dogs evolved from cats or if elephants evolved from pine trees if I don't believe in evolution in the first place.
Doesn't matter if you believe "god" exists or not. Even if you do believe in god, you're still really taking a leap of faith to explain some of the nonsense in this story. Let's suppose you wackos are right, that your imaginary sky-friend somehow brought all the animals to the ark, did they just magically materialize right in front of it, or did kangaroos, for example, swim to the middle east from Australia? And you still don't explain how they managed to gather up all that food and store it on the ark. Did the food just magically restock itself every time they were low on it? If that's your explanation, then it begs the question, why even bother with the whole flood and ark thing to begin with? Since "god" has the power to do whatever it wants, why didn't "god" just vaporize all the people in the world except Noah and his family? So you see, when you analyze this idiotic story in the context of believing "god" exists, then it actually seems to make even less sense. The truth is, there was no great flood, there was no ark, and there was no Noah. All the answers to the questions, such as the ones I posed, were just filled in with "well god did it!" over the years. No thought or critical thinking required, just say "god did it" and that will explain everything.

And by the way, there is absolutely no geological evidence of a great worldwide flood. None whatsoever. Of course certain regions have had huge floods, and that's what these myths are based on, but no great flood like the one you dopes believe in.

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John -Working on it
#13 Dec 21, 2008
Why you contend that the God who took care of the Israelites for 40 years in the desert couldn't take care of a boatload of animals, is beyond me.

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Gabbylittleangel
#14 Dec 21, 2008
NoamChimpsky wrote:
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...wackos...
...just magically...
...you dopes...

IF no one converses with you on this topic, will you at all consider that it is due to your lack of respect, or will you walk away holding fast to your belief that you are smarter than God?

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NoamChimpsky

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#15 Dec 21, 2008
John -Working on it wrote:
Why you contend that the God who took care of the Israelites for 40 years in the desert couldn't take care of a boatload of animals, is beyond me.
Your "god" didn't do either of these things. The funny thing about the ark fairy tale is that you dolts even refute my logical points with even more nonsense that's not even mentioned in the bible. The original story has so many holes in it, you guys just make shit up. And then the shit you make up has its own holes in it. The whole Noah's ark myth is one big revolving pile of bullshit.

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Gabbylittleangel
#16 Dec 21, 2008
John -Working on it wrote:
Why you contend that the God who took care of the Israelites for 40 years in the desert couldn't take care of a boatload of animals, is beyond me.

This is why I asked him about Gen. 1:1. People who believe God created it all, usually don't have a problem in believing the flood. I have found some really facinating research and evidence, but the Lord warns about casting pearls.
I can't figure out how - or why - it is that someone who tosses some name calling in the title of the thread expect to interact with the people that they are talking to.

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NoamChimpsky

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#17 Dec 21, 2008
Gabbylittleangel wrote:
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IF no one converses with you on this topic, will you at all consider that it is due to your lack of respect, or will you walk away holding fast to your belief that you are smarter than God?
Why should I show insanity any respect at all? Do people show scientologists respect? Do people show guys who claimed they were anally probed by aliens respect? Do people show some guy walking down the street having a conversation with himself respect? Of course not, we view these people as mental cases. Belief in a the Noah's ark myth is no different.

Also, I can't be smarter than something that doesn't exist. However, I am smarter than the dupes who believe this nonsense and continue to regurgitate it to this very day.

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John -Working on it
#18 Dec 21, 2008
NoamChimpsky wrote:
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Your "god" didn't do either of these things. The funny thing about the ark fairy tale is that you dolts even refute my logical points with even more nonsense that's not even mentioned in the bible. The original story has so many holes in it, you guys just make shit up. And then the shit you make up has its own holes in it. The whole Noah's ark myth is one big revolving pile of bullshit.
It has been my experience that the person who has no argument,.... attacks....... sort of proving that water seeks its own level

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#19 Dec 21, 2008
There are larger problems than the food. In fact that is one of the smaller problems, but definitely worth note.

The increase of genetic material from 8 people to all the diversity we see today would have to be insane.

40000 feet of water coming and going without leaving any evidence. For those that say "every rock is a flood rock", even if that were true, this flood isnt an ordinary flood, it would have left VERY different evidence than what we see. It would have demolished everything in its path. We are talking 1000 feet of water a DAY falling. 41 feet an HOUR falling, which equates to 500 INCHES AN HOUR. Even if HALF came from under the ocean, this is still 250 INCHES AN HOUR. This would leave evidence like no other. If we see 3"/hr today we are talking a downpour.

This much water would have caused the earth to become so hot, any way you do it, to have killed noah and everything on his ark, The fish in the sea, the insects that supposedly werent in it, and everything else. In short it would be like putting the earth in an autoclave.

The salinity in the sea dropping would have killed all sealife even if it hadnt boiled the seas, so these would have to fit on the boat.

I know i know goddidit, but in reality these are major obstacles that god would have had to magically fix to make this story viable. The list of problems like this is endless with this story. I saw a creation site say that the largest animal would have weighed a couple hundred lbs, when in reality adolescent dinosaurs (who must have been on the ark) would weigh a few tons in the larger species, and in fact would eat the ark empty in no time.

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#20 Dec 21, 2008
John -Working on it wrote:
Why you contend that the God who took care of the Israelites for 40 years in the desert couldn't take care of a boatload of animals, is beyond me.
There you go, problem solved, "God did it!"

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NoamChimpsky

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#21 Dec 21, 2008
John -Working on it wrote:
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It has been my experience that the person who has no argument,.... attacks....... sort of proving that water seeks its own level
LOL....what are you talking about, I have no "argument"? Have you read any of my posts? I use logic to refute everything you tools believe about the ark fairy tale. Of course I call you guys mental cases (because you are), but I have also used irrefutable logic to respond to everything. So far all you've done is cry about the fact that I refer to you guys as wackos, which you are, yet you haven't even bothered to refute a single word I've typed. Feel free to try to refute anything I've said, but please don't sit there throwing a temper tantrum like a little baby.

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