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Williamson, WV

#204 Jul 31, 2011
Lord Quiggy wrote:
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I also wonder why you haven't noticed that the Conservative Republican and the Christian agenda are one in the same. I am not a leftist, but I have noticed that it's the Republicans you have to keep an eye on when it comes to destroying the American worker. The Dems are too flakey to worry about. The Republicans have went as far as to steal elections and the Tea Party is just flat out dangerous.
There's a few Christian democrats, too. I'm one of them, as was my Dad, but, like I said, I'm going to probably change mine to Independent. WV has been particularly a democrat state, for a long time. We have democrat sentators, congressmen, and a governor. Yet, there's a lot of Christian democrats in WV. But all democrats and all republicans are not alike. It's more about moral issues, I believe, than anything else. Some democrats would not have an abortion--like me. Some republicans might. I'd have to say that Christains are not for killing, whatever the party they are affiliated with.
Are Christians and Republicans similar? They may well be similar, but it doesn't make all republicans Christians. Nor does it make all democrats nonChristians. I would compare today's republicans to "old fsshioned," and today's democrats to "almost fascist," or something like it. It's like they want to change everything about America, and it's a party I no longer identify with. Believe it or not, I had started out as a Republican, years ago, when I was 18. I found that I voted for more democratic senators and congressment that I did the opposite party, but when it came to presidents, I voted for more Republicans that Democrats. So--I switched to the Democratic party.
I know it's crazy--it's all mixed up--where it ends, only God knows. I have a question for you! You said it's the republicans we have to worry about and the democrats are too flaky. If all the republicans are shut down, does it mean that all we have left to run our country are flaky people? Anyway, it's why I vote my conscience. That way, I can live with myself.
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Williamson, WV

#205 Jul 31, 2011
Lord Quiggy wrote:
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Also, the too much money spent part never seems to include the war that put us here. The unfounded search for WMD's is what ruined this economy. We were in a surplus before Bush 2. I also think that many Christians think it is OK to cash in on future generations BECAUSE Jesus is coming back soon. It used to be, the older generation stepped aside and let the next one take the wheel. The baby boomers are the first generation to not do that. They cling to running the show using old money that doesn't exist for those younger people. They are wealthier and have lived longer than any generation before them. They cashed in on the land, the water, the air and they most certainly use the second coming as a means to justify this greed.
About that war thing--I think it'd have been best to let their own oil build their own country back, in Iraq. As far as Afghanistan goes, I don't know how they could have made them pay for that war, except maybe to have made the terrorists pay for it, in some way. I think any nation we'd have to rebuild should be rebuilt by their own funds or their own means--like oil, etc. It shoudln't have been up to us to go get the problem then replace what was broken. The problem originated there, and should have been funded from there to build it back.
I don't like how we give so much dollars to terrorist countries, especially when terrorism is one of our biggest problems. Most likely, that money will end up in the hands of the terrorists. That's what I think.
I don't hardly see Christians as cashing in on future generations, because they think Jesus is coming back soon. I do believe they believe Jesus is coming back soon, and they are looking for Him, with that "gleam of love for Him," in their eyes, but in case Jesus tarries, they do not want future generations harmed as a result of trying to live too elaborately. I just don't see it! To me, it's more like "wanting to make it better for the next generation."
Speaking of the baby-boomers, I know they were a large group of people in America's population, born during a certain amount of time. But then came along abortion--and there would have needed to have been many people to support and sustain the older generation of aging baby-boomers, economically. But millions have been aborted. Many millions! Now, where are those who would have worked to support the social security, etc., for the vast number of baby-boomers? They're dead, of course, because they were rejected. We have rejected the things that would have kept us going swimmingly along. It's too bad! How many of them would have been people who were going to be great at solving economic and environmental and other issues? In any case, Jesus is the only One we can really count on. We can't even always count on ourselves.
I have to go, right now, there's 3 kids who have to tell me something. One wants me to cut it's hair, etc. Kids! Kids! Kids! LOL!
Lord Quiggy

Canton, OH

#206 Aug 1, 2011
Listen To This wrote:
<quoted text>About that war thing--I think it'd have been best to let their own oil build their own country back, in Iraq. As far as Afghanistan goes, I don't know how they could have made them pay for that war, except maybe to have made the terrorists pay for it, in some way. I think any nation we'd have to rebuild should be rebuilt by their own funds or their own means--like oil, etc. It shoudln't have been up to us to go get the problem then replace what was broken. The problem originated there, and should have been funded from there to build it back.
I don't like how we give so much dollars to terrorist countries, especially when terrorism is one of our biggest problems. Most likely, that money will end up in the hands of the terrorists. That's what I think.
I don't hardly see Christians as cashing in on future generations, because they think Jesus is coming back soon. I do believe they believe Jesus is coming back soon, and they are looking for Him, with that "gleam of love for Him," in their eyes, but in case Jesus tarries, they do not want future generations harmed as a result of trying to live too elaborately. I just don't see it! To me, it's more like "wanting to make it better for the next generation."
Speaking of the baby-boomers, I know they were a large group of people in America's population, born during a certain amount of time. But then came along abortion--and there would have needed to have been many people to support and sustain the older generation of aging baby-boomers, economically. But millions have been aborted. Many millions! Now, where are those who would have worked to support the social security, etc., for the vast number of baby-boomers? They're dead, of course, because they were rejected. We have rejected the things that would have kept us going swimmingly along. It's too bad! How many of them would have been people who were going to be great at solving economic and environmental and other issues? In any case, Jesus is the only One we can really count on. We can't even always count on ourselves.
I have to go, right now, there's 3 kids who have to tell me something. One wants me to cut it's hair, etc. Kids! Kids! Kids! LOL!
I think you are overlooking the fact that the war was unfounded in Iraq. There were no WMD's. They lied to Congress about it and Christians were dancing in the streets to the idea that we were going to kill us some Muslims. One might call it a Christian sponsored Holy war against all things Muslim. Also, you don't find it odd that the gov gave all of the contracts to rebuild to Dick Cheney's company, Haliburton? Usually, contractors will fight tooth and nail to underbid each other to get gov contracts. Our gov never put it on the table and offered top dollar to Haliburton. So an unfounded war that makes only the people who started it any money and lots of it, has driven our country into huge debt and accomplished nothing. Sure, let's just overlook that part.
Funny how many of the politicians who openly ride on the fact that they are Christian, have direct ties to oil companies and often have their hand at deregulating the energy industry, at the cost of our future and the environment. Let me know if you would like several examples of outspoken Christians in our gov, sucking off the oil lobby. It goes back as far as at least Reagan. Other than Obama, would you mind listing some Dem politicians that are outspoken Christians. One's we have heard of before. 74% of Republicans are white Christians.
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Williamson, WV

#207 Aug 1, 2011
Lord Quiggy wrote:
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I think you are overlooking the fact that the war was unfounded in Iraq. There were no WMD's. They lied to Congress about it and Christians were dancing in the streets to the idea that we were going to kill us some Muslims. One might call it a Christian sponsored Holy war against all things Muslim. Also, you don't find it odd that the gov gave all of the contracts to rebuild to Dick Cheney's company, Haliburton? Usually, contractors will fight tooth and nail to underbid each other to get gov contracts. Our gov...
Everyone in the US is not a Christian. If some danced in the streets, they probably felt like it was the right thing to do, while others may have just said, "Oh, wow, another war," and some others didn't give it a lot of thought--as it was government as usual. It's really unfair to blame everything going on on Chrsitians. Not everyone who calls him or herself a Christian, is one. I don't care what anyone else thinks, it's the truth. Jesus said, "Not everyone that says, Lord, Lord, will enter into Heaven, but him that does the will of My Father." It may be that some people who call themselves Christians are in it for the deceit--I don't know--but God will separate the wheat from the tares--the sheep from the goats.
Now, as far as government goes, nothing surprises me too much, anymore. Who knows what they will do? Who can tell? That's why more people need to be praying for their representatives, that they'll make the right choices. One thing I can say for sure, is that we ought to be thankful to each and every member of our armed forces for the sacrifices they make for our country and for the freedom of other people in other countries. I thank them all. While we complain about wars that should have never been, there are soldiers who fought in those wars who may wonder if the people appreciated them or not; or if they believed in the soldiers, or not. I believe in freedom, and even fighting for freedom when necessary. Freedom comes at a price. Just ask any woman and man who lost a son or a daughter to a war--even the Iraq war. Dare tell a child whose father or mother died in the Iraq war that it's parent died for a lousy purpose. To me, that would be degrading and wrong to do to a family member. Think of those soldiers who have lost limbs, eyesight, etc. While we talk about the political correctness--or not--of a war, others, like these, are suffering, and need encouragement. I applaud all our troops! God bless America and all her troops! Once we are in a war, would it not be best if we win it?
I guess there are just some rich Christians--as well as there are some poor ones. If a Christian is rich, and does things to help other people, that should not be a problem. I wonder how many of those rich Christians in oil would give money to aid disaster situations, and do humanitarian work for the poor and hungry people in this world. If we can't know, we can't fully put them down. If we can't see their transactions, how can we give them a complete judgment? Only God knows their hearts and the things they do. As for me, I want to spend most of my time on trying to have a positive outlook. If I concentrate on all the bad, I might miss the most important points of the good. Is Obama a Christian?
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Williamson, WV

#208 Aug 1, 2011
Lord Quiggy wrote:
"The end of the world as we know it is rapidly approaching.... Rejoice and be exceeding glad"
Rev. John Hagee
Be sure to look your children in the eye and tell them how happy you are about the end of the world. Tell them that you are betting all chips on the notion that they don't have a future. Doomsday cult.
Rejoice and be exceeding glad, for your redemption draweth nigh." Honestly, Quiggy, if this is indeed the time of the end, as we know it, then the world will never be the same again. In the 7 year period of the tribulation period, there will be much suffering. Many will die as a result of plagues and disasters and wars, according to the Bible. The Bible has made predictions for many hundreds of years, and the predictions or the prophecies have come true as spoken, so far. I don't have any reason to believe all of them won't come true. What can stop the end as we know it from coming? 2 Chronicles 7:14 says, "If My people, which are called by My name, will humble themselves and pray, and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways; thenw will I hear from Heaven, will forgive their sin, and will heal their land." I believe this would be the answer.
What is the Day of the Lord about? It's about judgment, or reaping what we sow; it's about repentance, or being sorry for what we've done against God's will; and it's about salvaton, or coming to repent of our sin and accept God's salvation. The 7 year period is going to be about these things, too. There will be a mark that many will not take. They will not be able to buy, trade, nor sell. But they will have the Lord. "If we gain the whole world, and lose our soul, what has it prospered us?" This world lasts but for a while. Our lives, here, are short in the time of eternity--just a dot in it. It's like my Grandmaw used to say, "I'd rather do my suffering in this life than in the next."
What I am trying to tell my children is that the Bible is the word of God, and it says that we will reap what we sow, and that we need Jesus in our hearts to make it to Heaven. I am also trying to teach them that they need to, should they miss the Rapture, to not take the mark. But I am also trying to tell them that they should do what they can to make sure they don't miss the Rapture. I don't know the day nor hour the Rapture is coming, but it pays to be ready for it. Otherwise, it will come like a thief in the night. If that's the case, our best future would be in Heaven. "Eyes have not seen, ears have not heard, nor has it entered into the heart of man what the Lord has prepared for us in that city." That's something to look forward to.
My hope is in the Lord. People may fail me. Governments will fail me. The Lord will not fail me. Then, there will be the new millinium, when Jesus sets up His kingdom on this Earth. I think the Book of Revelation is very fascinating.
Lord Quiggy

Canton, OH

#209 Aug 1, 2011
Listen To This wrote:
<quoted text>Rejoice and be exceeding glad, for your redemption draweth nigh." Honestly, Quiggy, if this is indeed the time of the end, as we know it, then the world will never be the same again. In the 7 year period of the tribulation period, there will be much suffering. Many will die as a result of plagues and disasters and wars, according to the Bible. The Bible has made predictions for many hundreds of years, and the predictions or the prophecies have come true as spoken, so far. I don't have any reason to believe all of them won't come true. What can stop the end as we know it from coming? 2 Chronicles 7:14 says, "If My people, which are called by My name, will humble themselves and pray, and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways; thenw will I hear from Heaven, will forgive their sin, and will heal their land." I believe this would be the answer.
What is the Day of the Lord about? It's about judgment, or reaping what we sow; it's about repentance, or being sorry for what we've done against God's will; and it's about salvaton, or coming to repent of our sin and accept God's salvation. The 7 year period is going to be about these things, too. There will be a mark that many will not take. They will not be able to buy, trade, nor sell. But they will have the Lord. "If we gain the whole world, and lose our soul, what has it prospered us?" This world lasts but for a while. Our lives, here, are short in the time of eternity--just a dot in it. It's like my Grandmaw used to say, "I'd rather do my suffering in this life than in the next."
What I am trying to tell my children is that the Bible is the word of God, and it says that we will reap what we sow, and that we need Jesus in our hearts to make it to Heaven. I am also trying to teach them that they need to, should they miss the Rapture, to not take the mark. But I am also trying to tell them that they should do what they can to make sure they don't miss the Rapture. I don't know the day nor hour the Rapture is coming, but it pays to be ready for it. Otherwise, it will come like a thief in the night. If that's the case, our best future would be in Heaven. "Eyes have not seen, ears have not heard, nor has it entered into the heart of man what the Lord has prepared for us in that city." That's something to look forward to.
My hope is in the Lord. People may fail me. Governments will fail me. The Lord will not fail me. Then, there will be the new millinium, when Jesus sets up His kingdom on this Earth. I think the Book of Revelation is very fascinating.
Your faith serves you well. We have different views on this but that's what makes things interesting. My observations on Christianity are very different than yours. I have seen it turned into a political tool to move unrelated agendas. This I saw first hand from what could be called the front lines. To me, that is evil.
As far as me being negative or lashing out at people, pay attention to who you see me slamming around on here. Notice I am at polar opposites of what you believe, yet still we converse in a respectful and rational manner. There are true followers of the teachings of Christ on this forum that are untouchable to me. I will not speak an ill word to them. Why do you suppose that is? I'm not expecting an answer. Just think about it.
CometotheFall

Swindon, UK

#210 Aug 12, 2011
Lol! I have twenty four Monster cans stacked as a tower in my room, I think it is the devils work :o They all keep falling on me when the wind blows through my window XD Haha, I love Monster energy drink :D
Lord Quiggy

Canton, OH

#211 Aug 13, 2011
CometotheFall wrote:
Lol! I have twenty four Monster cans stacked as a tower in my room, I think it is the devils work :o They all keep falling on me when the wind blows through my window XD Haha, I love Monster energy drink :D
You can trade in the UPC symbols on the Monster cans for a new set of devil horns! I like Monster energy because it gives me that extra kick I need when following the dark lord of the pit.
Thankful for dayz

United States

#216 Mar 20, 2012
Thank you all so much,even the negatives..-smile- move on guyz nd let them die!
DeTour

Kempton Park, South Africa

#217 Jan 18, 2013
"If the cross represents Jesus Christ, then obviously the upside down cross symbolizes the Antichrist."

Actually, it doesn't, shows how thorough your "research" is, the upside down cross is the Cross of St. Peter or Petrine Cross. Some Catholics use this cross as a symbol of humility and unworthiness in comparison to Jesus.

It's only in quite recent years in pop culture and WORKS OF FICTION that it showed to represent the devil.

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