Must you believe in the trinity to be...

Must you believe in the trinity to be saved?

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Johnny Trunk

Philadelphia, PA

#1 Jun 27, 2013
where in the Bible does it say you must believe in the trinity to be saved?
Ant

Palo Alto, CA

#2 Jun 28, 2013
It doesn't, but here is a very good video on that issue that helped me alot.

http://www.biblicalunitarian.com/videos/do-yo...

“theholychristian church.com”

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#3 Jun 28, 2013
Johnny Trunk wrote:
where in the Bible does it say you must believe in the trinity to be saved?
You must believe:

a) in God
b) Jesus as being the son of God.
c) the Holy ghost as a spiritual part of God.
d) repent from your sins
e) baptize

If you mean believe that God, Jesus en Holy Ghost are one, then you need not believe this: for it
is not true. They are like one. As Jesus said: the son is like the father. He did not say 'IS' the
father. No need watching nonsense videos etc. Just read the Gospel.

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- The Gospel is not the way you like to see it: it is the way it is.
- Jesus taught those who follow him only to Preach what he taught them - for they can never Teach you.

Calling The Unbeliever, Confronting The Lukewarm, Exposing The Hypocrite
Do Not Follow Men, Nor Churches! Come to Christ, says God!
http://www.theholychristianchurch.com/christi...
http://www.theholychristianchurch.com/baptism...

- Murder: the unauthorized (by God) killing of a creature
- Killing: the authorized (by God) putting to death of a creature
- Judging: In Christianity, the prohibited 'judging' is to execute a penalty upon another as retribution for their sins.
- CO1 5: 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
- Protect the Children from Satan in the Churches: http://www.silentlambs.org

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Albuquerque

#4 Jun 28, 2013
Cliff09 wrote:
<quoted text>
You must believe:
a) in God
b) Jesus as being the son of God.
c) the Holy ghost as a spiritual part of God.
d) repent from your sins
e) baptize
If you mean believe that God, Jesus en Holy Ghost are one, then you need not believe this: for it
is not true. They are like one. As Jesus said: the son is like the father. He did not say 'IS' the
father. No need watching nonsense videos etc. Just read the Gospel.
----------
- The Gospel is not the way you like to see it: it is the way it is.
- Jesus taught those who follow him only to Preach what he taught them - for they can never Teach you.
Calling The Unbeliever, Confronting The Lukewarm, Exposing The Hypocrite
Do Not Follow Men, Nor Churches! Come to Christ, says God!
http://www.theholychristianchurch.com/christi...
http://www.theholychristianchurch.com/baptism...
- Murder: the unauthorized (by God) killing of a creature
- Killing: the authorized (by God) putting to death of a creature
- Judging: In Christianity, the prohibited 'judging' is to execute a penalty upon another as retribution for their sins.
- CO1 5: 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
- Protect the Children from Satan in the Churches: http://www.silentlambs.org
I see you are still pandering that numbskulls hate site.

Since: Oct 07

Bangor, UK

#5 Jun 28, 2013
Cliff09 wrote:
<quoted text>
You must believe:
a) in God
b) Jesus as being the son of God.
c) the Holy ghost as a spiritual part of God.
d) repent from your sins
e) baptize
If you mean believe that God, Jesus en Holy Ghost are one, then you need not believe this: for it
is not true. They are like one. As Jesus said: the son is like the father. He did not say 'IS' the
father. No need watching nonsense videos etc. Just read the Gospel.
----------
- The Gospel is not the way you like to see it: it is the way it is.
- Jesus taught those who follow him only to Preach what he taught them - for they can never Teach you.
Calling The Unbeliever, Confronting The Lukewarm, Exposing The Hypocrite
Do Not Follow Men, Nor Churches! Come to Christ, says God!
http://www.theholychristianchurch.com/christi...
http://www.theholychristianchurch.com/baptism...
- Murder: the unauthorized (by God) killing of a creature
- Killing: the authorized (by God) putting to death of a creature
- Judging: In Christianity, the prohibited 'judging' is to execute a penalty upon another as retribution for their sins.
- CO1 5: 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
- Protect the Children from Satan in the Churches: http://www.silentlambs.org
I see you still have the vile Image of a barbie doll and a sex toy on your sex shop page and say ...
"Thus, a considerate Christian sex shop would not have pictures or movies of naked people, for this could be provoking fellow believers to commit adultery or fornication (and maybe even Christians). Dressed dolls, like in the image below are the only alternative for a realistic demonstration of clothing. If one experiences arousal from the doll image, than he does not violate, nor is he drawn in to violating by the shopkeeper..."

associating sex with a childs toy is soo wrong on sooo many counts .. REPENT
Punisher

Massapequa, NY

#6 Jun 28, 2013
No requirement at all...
Punisher

Massapequa, NY

#7 Jun 28, 2013
Ant wrote:
It doesn't, but here is a very good video on that issue that helped me alot.
http://www.biblicalunitarian.com/videos/do-yo...
Which is just a means to keep the status quo, and to keep some power in the pulpits. Only preachers and priests, men with their jobs at stake, demand adherence to their Theology-doctrines. Your God demands no such things of you...and neither does he demand Bible worship. Which is really what this its all about...what all the obtuse theology-doctrines and adherence to them is all about - Bible Worship.
Punisher

Massapequa, NY

#8 Jun 28, 2013
loveismygoal wrote:
<quoted text>I see you still have the vile Image of a barbie doll and a sex toy on your sex shop page and say ...
"Thus, a considerate Christian sex shop would not have pictures or movies of naked people, for this could be provoking fellow believers to commit adultery or fornication (and maybe even Christians). Dressed dolls, like in the image below are the only alternative for a realistic demonstration of clothing. If one experiences arousal from the doll image, than he does not violate, nor is he drawn in to violating by the shopkeeper..."
associating sex with a childs toy is soo wrong on sooo many counts .. REPENT
Does it really say that?(I dont know as I refuse to go to this site...)

Sounds like this Dude might own himself a Real Doll...or two...

Since: Oct 07

Bangor, UK

#9 Jun 29, 2013
http://www.theholychristianchurch.com/christi...

Christian Sex Shop
What does a Christian sex shop looks like? This also is very clear to understand from the Gospel: it does not violate against the doctrine of Christ.
Jesus says that fornication can be committed by just 'looking' lustfully at another.

MAT 5: 28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

Thus, a considerate Christian sex shop would not have pictures or movies of naked people, for this could be provoking fellow believers to commit adultery or fornication (and maybe even Christians). Dressed dolls, like in the image below are the only alternative for a realistic demonstration of clothing. If one experiences arousal from the doll image, than he does not violate, nor is he drawn in to violating by the shopkeeper. All manner of toys may be sold, S&M toys, self-grafitication toys, sex pills and drinks, birth-control products and anything else that does not violate the law of God.

Remember: if it violates the law of God, it is written in the Gospel: meaning 'The New Testament' and 'Good News'.

the image below is of a barbie doll not a manequin doll which could have been used ..dressed in corset and suspenders and image next to that is of a vibrator shaped as a penis complete with balls... fn disgusting ..using a childs toy in a sexual manner ..but why? is the question ..I leave that up to intelligence to find out and rest assured if they dont then God himself knows and will deal with it

“theholychristian church.com”

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#10 Jul 3, 2013
Ant wrote:
It doesn't, but here is a very good video on that issue that helped me alot.
http://www.biblicalunitarian.com/videos/do-yo...
Nobody needs a video! The Gospel tells you that the trinity is a chrstian invention and not doctrine of Jesus. he father, son and holy ghost are three separate parts, but like one.

Jesus only ever stated: the son is like the father. LIKE. Not the son is the father.

The son now sits at the right hand of the father, it is said, thus one understands that they are two. The son says that the holy ghost will not come until he died. He is nod dead and the holy ghost has come, thus making them three. Simple reading, ladies and gents: simple!

THE TRINITY
http://www.theholychristianchurch.com/the-tri...
Ant

Palo Alto, CA

#11 Jul 3, 2013
Cliff09 wrote:
<quoted text>
Nobody needs a video! The Gospel tells you that the trinity is a chrstian invention and not doctrine of Jesus. he father, son and holy ghost are three separate parts, but like one.
Jesus only ever stated: the son is like the father. LIKE. Not the son is the father.
The son now sits at the right hand of the father, it is said, thus one understands that they are two. The son says that the holy ghost will not come until he died. He is nod dead and the holy ghost has come, thus making them three. Simple reading, ladies and gents: simple!
THE TRINITY
http://www.theholychristianchurch.com/the-tri...
He did die!!! He died to fulfill prophecy and rose again and the Holy Spirit cam upon them at the Day of Pentecost.

But back to the topic at hand.. No it is not a requirement to believe in the Trinity to be saved.

“theholychristian church.com”

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#12 Jul 3, 2013
nod dead = now dead type, understand now?

“ IT'S A CHOICE !!!”

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#13 Jul 3, 2013
Must you believe in the trinity to be saved?

No, no, and no...

*That was easy...Have a nice day!!!

“theholychristian church.com”

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#15 Jul 3, 2013
For folk who don't understand.

Trinity: Jesus, Holy Ghost and God = one entity.

This is not true: Jesus, God, HG = three separate entities that are LIKE ONE, spiritually one.

----------

- The Gospel is not the way you like to see it: it is the way it is.
- Jesus taught those who follow him only to Preach what he taught them - for they can never Teach you.

Calling The Unbeliever, Confronting The Lukewarm, Exposing The Hypocrite
Do Not Follow Men, Nor Churches! Come to Christ, says God!
http://www.theholychristianchurch.com/christi...
http://www.theholychristianchurch.com/baptism...

- Murder: the unauthorized (by God) killing of a creature
- Killing: the authorized (by God) putting to death of a creature
- Judging: In Christianity, the prohibited 'judging' is to execute a penalty upon another as retribution for their sins.
- CO1 5: 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
- Protect the Children from Satan in the Churches: http://www.silentlambs.org

“theholychristian church.com”

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#16 Jul 3, 2013
( Not True )Trinity: Jesus, Holy Ghost and God = one entity.


( True )Jesus, God, HG = three separate entities that are LIKE ONE, spiritually one.

John from Texas

“It's all in your head”

Since: Dec 12

Ballwin, MO

#17 Jul 3, 2013
I don't think you even need to believe in God to be saved.

Saved from what, anyway?

“theholychristian church.com”

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#18 Jul 5, 2013
John from Texas wrote:
I don't think you even need to believe in God to be saved.
Saved from what, anyway?
Saved from damnation, receiving everlasting life in heaven.

----------

- The Gospel is not the way you like to see it: it is the way it is.
- Jesus taught those who follow him only to Preach what he taught them - for they can never Teach you.

Calling The Unbeliever, Confronting The Lukewarm, Exposing The Hypocrite
Do Not Follow Men, Nor Churches! Come to Christ, says God!
http://www.theholychristianchurch.com/christi...
http://www.theholychristianchurch.com/baptism...

- Murder: the unauthorized (by God) killing of a creature
- Killing: the authorized (by God) putting to death of a creature
- Judging: In Christianity, the prohibited 'judging' is to execute a penalty upon another as retribution for their sins.
- CO1 5: 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
- Protect the Children from Satan in the Churches: http://www.silentlambs.org
Johnny Trunk

Philadelphia, PA

#19 Jul 6, 2013
Cliff09 wrote:
( Not True )Trinity: Jesus, Holy Ghost and God = one entity.
( True )Jesus, God, HG = three separate entities that are LIKE ONE, spiritually one.
John>>

Where does the Bible say God is 3 in 1?
Prophet of Jesus Christ

San Antonio, TX

#20 Jul 6, 2013
Johnny Trunk wrote:
<quoted text>
John>>
Where does the Bible say God is 3 in 1?
Jesus said you are going to hell because you are not his disciple.

Jesus said you are not a Christian.

Luke, Chapter 14, 33: So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#21 Jul 6, 2013
Prophet of Jesus Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
Jesus said you are going to hell because you are not his disciple.
Jesus said you are not a Christian.
Jesus said YOU are going to Hell.

Matthew 5:22 (NKJV)
22 But whoever says,'You fool!' shall be in danger of hell fire.

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