Most people with HIV/AIDS are religious
Reality Check

New York, NY

#41 Mar 22, 2013
FSM wrote:
<quoted text>I don't think it's possible for Oscar to hate homosexuals that much for no reason so he must have tried it and didn't like it or?
Based on your logic, either you like bestial sex, paedo sex, rape, incest, and necrophilia or your hate is based on trying them and not liking it. Which did you try first and not like?????

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#42 Mar 22, 2013
Reality Check wrote:
<quoted text>If that were true, then since 80% of those with AIDS are gay, then you gays should stay out of Catholicism and religion. Perhaps Oscar should pray the you atheists are not gay....baahahahahahahaahahahah aha!!!!!!!
Then who would teach your religion?
Reality Check

New York, NY

#43 Mar 22, 2013
Bob wrote:
<quoted text>He probably didn't realize just how intellectually challenged some christians like you are, did you read it? You shouldn't need a preacher to explain it to you like the bible.
The patients mean age was 43.3 years; 86% were male; 55% were minorities; and 80% indicated a specific religious preference. There were 23% of participants that attended religious services weekly, and 32% engaged in prayer or meditation at least daily. 75% of patients said that their illness had strengthened their faith at least a little. Most patients with HIV/AIDS belonged to an organized religion and use their religion to cope with their illness.
So yes, only a christian would be dim enough to think that 7.1 billion people have aids and they studied them all to find 6.3 billion have a religious affiliation. Your bulb has been painted flat black by the holy words of man.
But, but, but, the CDC reports that 80% of all AIDS victims in North America are homosexuals and MSM is the primary method and it also reports that 95% of all AIDS victims have had contact with people who engaged in MSM sex.

Did you know that all the Catholic child abusers reported a religious affiliation? 100!!! Wow, but wait, 95% of the RCC child abuses cases were homosexual.

Did you also know that 100% of all bank robbers are humans? Gosh, dogs and monkeys never rob banks.

If you atheists had intellect, this might be a challenge, but instead it remains a joke and thus we laugh.
OKAY

Houston, TX

#44 Mar 22, 2013
Word of the day, 'assertion'.

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#45 Mar 22, 2013
Reality Check wrote:
<quoted text>
If you atheists had intellect, this might be a challenge, but instead it remains a joke and thus we laugh.
This is not a valid observation because atheists are only atheists because they reject your grandiose assertion that you provide no proof of. This can easily be attribute as a result of adherence to scientific and logical thinking which which suggest the opposite of your claim.

What some would consider funny are people that dress up as Jedi and have lightsaber fights with wiffle ball bats and believe the force is real.

What is equally as funny are grown ups that believe a magic man in the sky is looking after them and will give them presents at some point...like a magic genii.

Not much different -- the claims have the same absence of proof.

Can you tell me why children with imaginary friends are often sent for psychological evaluation yet adults with them are supposed to be taken seriously?

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#46 Mar 22, 2013
OKAY wrote:
Word of the day,'assertion'.
Action of the day: Not proving them
OKAY

Houston, TX

#47 Mar 22, 2013
cvor wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL -- according to you I don't need to.....just as when I asked you to prove god refused to and asked me to disprove it
That makes you a hypocrite.
Have a wonderful day!:O)
Didn't realize you could get stupider than you look...my bad.

Nd asked you to prove your 'assertion'.

There's the word of the day again.

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#48 Mar 22, 2013
OKAY wrote:
<quoted text>
Didn't realize you could get stupider than you look...my bad.
Nd asked you to prove your 'assertion'.
There's the word of the day again.
You didn't address the point. Your "realizations" have no bearing since you haven't demonstrated them to be in alignment with reality.

Afterall - you are the one that asked me to disprove the existence of something...which is not a standard practice in scientific related discussion. You then flip flopped when I did it to you.

You haven't demonstrated consistency....which was my point.

Enjoy your day

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#49 Mar 22, 2013
OKAY wrote:
<quoted text>

There's the word of the day again.
is the issue the word or that you are making one after the other? If you didn't consistently make them and not demonstrate the validity of them then we wouldn't have the word of the day.

Just some insight for you to acquire. Thank you in advance

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#50 Mar 22, 2013
Reality Check wrote:
<quoted text>If that were true, then since 80% of those with AIDS are gay, then you gays should stay out of Catholicism and religion. Perhaps Oscar should pray the you atheists are not gay....baahahahahahahaahahahah aha!!!!!!!
why should he do that?

NDanger

“Third Eye”

Since: Nov 10

You can't get there from here.

#51 Mar 22, 2013
cvor wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL -- according to you I don't need to.....just as when I asked you to prove god refused to and asked me to disprove it
That makes you a hypocrite.
Have a wonderful day!:O)
You're the one asserting you are god.

Thanks, I will...
little lamb

Nudgee, Australia

#52 Mar 22, 2013
ASHM is a Registered Training Organisation (RTO) under the Australian Quality Training Framework...

QUOTE from ASHM...

HIV in Australia is mainly concentrated in gay men, not in marginalized injecting drug user and hard to reach populations as is the case in much of the U.S. We have good access to high quality HIV testing, and our testing rates are high.
CWU

Brazil

#53 Mar 22, 2013
Leviticus, Chapter 4
001: And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
002: Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a soul shall sin through ignorance against any of the commandments of the LORD concerning things which ought not to be done, and shall do against any of them:
003: If the priest that is anointed do sin according to the sin of the people; then let him bring for his sin, which he hath sinned, a young bullock without blemish unto the LORD for a sin offering.
004: And he shall bring the bullock unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation before the LORD; and shall lay his hand upon the bullock's head, and kill the bullock before the LORD.
005: And the priest that is anointed shall take of the bullock's blood, and bring it to the tabernacle of the congregation:
006: And the priest shall dip his finger in the blood, and sprinkle of the blood seven times before the LORD, before the veil of the sanctuary.
007: And the priest shall put some of the blood upon the horns of the altar of sweet incense before the LORD, which is in the tabernacle of the congregation; and shall pour all the blood of the bullock at the bottom of the altar of the burnt offering, which is at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation.
008: And he shall take off from it all the fat of the bullock for the sin offering; the fat that covereth the inwards, and all the fat that is upon the inwards,
009: And the two kidneys, and the fat that is upon them, which is by the flanks, and the caul above the liver, with the kidneys, it shall he take away,
010: As it was taken off from the bullock of the sacrifice of peace offerings: and the priest shall burn them upon the altar of the burnt offering.
011: And the skin of the bullock, and all his flesh, with his head, and with his legs, and his inwards, and his dung,
012: Even the whole bullock shall he carry forth without the camp unto a clean place, where the ashes are poured out, and burn him on the wood with fire: where the ashes are poured out shall he be burnt.
013: And if the whole congregation of Israel sin through ignorance, and the thing be hid from the eyes of the assembly, and they have done somewhat against any of the commandments of the LORD concerning things which should not be done, and are guilty;
014: When the sin, which they have sinned against it, is known, then the congregation shall offer a young bullock for the sin, and bring him before the tabernacle of the congregation.
015: And the elders of the congregation shall lay their hands upon the head of the bullock before the LORD: and the bullock shall be killed before the LORD.
016: And the priest that is anointed shall bring of the bullock's blood to the tabernacle of the congregation:
017: And the priest shall dip his finger in some of the blood, and sprinkle it seven times before the LORD, even before the veil.
018: And he shall put some of the blood upon the horns of the altar which is before the LORD, that is in the tabernacle of the congregation, and shall pour out all the blood at the bottom of the altar of the burnt offering, which is at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation.
019: And he shall take all his fat from him, and burn it upon the altar.
020: And he shall do with the bullock as he did with the bullock for a sin offering, so shall he do with this: and the priest shall make an atonement for them, and it shall be forgiven them.
021: And he shall carry forth the bullock without the camp, and burn him as he burned the first bullock: it is a sin offering for the congregation.
022: When a ruler hath sinned, and done somewhat through ignorance against any of the commandments of the LORD his God concerning things which should not be done, and is guilty;
023: Or if his sin, wherein he hath sinned, come to his knowledge; he shall bring his offering, a kid of the goats, a male without blemish:
CWU

Brazil

#54 Mar 22, 2013
025: And the priest shall take of the blood of the sin offering with his finger, and put it upon the horns of the altar of burnt offering, and shall pour out his blood at the bottom of the altar of burnt offering.
026: And he shall burn all his fat upon the altar, as the fat of the sacrifice of peace offerings: and the priest shall make an atonement for him as concerning his sin, and it shall be forgiven him.
027: And if any one of the common people sin through ignorance, while he doeth somewhat against any of the commandments of the LORD concerning things which ought not to be done, and be guilty;
028: Or if his sin, which he hath sinned, come to his knowledge: then he shall bring his offering, a kid of the goats, a female without blemish, for his sin which he hath sinned.
029: And he shall lay his hand upon the head of the sin offering, and slay the sin offering in the place of the burnt offering.
030: And the priest shall take of the blood thereof with his finger, and put it upon the horns of the altar of burnt offering, and shall pour out all the blood thereof at the bottom of the altar.
031: And he shall take away all the fat thereof, as the fat is taken away from off the sacrifice of peace offerings; and the priest shall burn it upon the altar for a sweet savour unto the LORD; and the priest shall make an atonement for him, and it shall be forgiven him.
032: And if he bring a lamb for a sin offering, he shall bring it a female without blemish.
033: And he shall lay his hand upon the head of the sin offering, and slay it for a sin offering in the place where they kill the burnt offering.
034: And the priest shall take of the blood of the sin offering with his finger, and put it upon the horns of the altar of burnt offering, and shall pour out all the blood thereof at the bottom of the altar:
035: And he shall take away all the fat thereof, as the fat of the lamb is taken away from the sacrifice of the peace offerings; and the priest shall burn them upon the altar, according to the offerings made by fire unto the LORD: and the priest shall make an atonement for his sin that he hath committed, and it shall be forgiven him.

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#55 Mar 22, 2013
NDanger wrote:
<quoted text>
You're the one asserting you are god.
Thanks, I will...
Lol...you asserted there was a god to begin with. U asked me to disprove it so I followed your own approach.

Now you have adopted my position. Thanks! My assertion was in jest...yoirs wasn't.

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#56 Mar 22, 2013
Ndanger just proved his selective standards!
Gillette

Januária, Brazil

#57 Mar 22, 2013
There is no question Christianity is a cult. Children are often indoctrinated at a young age to accept without question that ridiculous claims are true. These children are told at a young age about greatness of Christian Heaven and punishment of Christian Hell. These children are dragged to places of worship. They are taught in schools and at home. They are warned about the penalties of not believing. They are taught to pray to this god and see others praying and everyone else buying into it. They see the examples set by their parents. They are often not exposed at all to other religions except they are taught that everything else is not true. They don't have the liberty of being of reasonable age with clear mind to review all the religions without parental bias and everything mentioned above to make up their own mind based on just the facts. Children usually adopt the religion of their parents: regardless of what it is. Children are often taught that believing in god is good and even in liberal households if things go awry, they see society and their parent's examples they learned and when they want to change, they turn to the god that is popular in their location and that they learned about.

Reward and punishment is used to entice belief. The empty promise of heaven if you believe and or behave and the empty threat of hell if you don't. Classic form of manipulation at work when there is no REAL reason to believe the core claims at hand. They need to entice you.

What kind of god really cares about belief? It is a means of manipulation. Belief is important because they need to draw you in to accept all the other things. Religion is a known tool for leaders to use to keep people in line -- especially poor ones that have nothing else to look forward to. God and heaven and hell given them reason to stay in line.

• Why does god base your eternal life on whether or not you believe in him?
• In the scenario of god rewarding belief, a person indoctrinated and genetically less prone to be inquisitive and not question things is REWARDED for all of eternity where the person that is inquisitive is punished. Being gullible is then an advantage and could save your a$$ for all of eternity. It would be the changing factor in salvation!
• Since god is so focused on belief, we can say that god wants you to be a historian and that being the historian he wants you to be, you will be granted eternal life!
A key part of being a historian is examining evidence. Why is it the expert historians tell us the bible is a religious book and not really a history book? Why can't they prove the bible's claims are true? I guess god likes the guessing historian who acts on things despite the evidence?
• Did you read the news today? Some guy parted the Red Sea and last week we have video footage of a magical burning bush that talks. CNN is all over it.
• If god is so intent on belief, why does he throw us thousands of curve balls ---- many other gods. Frankly, how is the objective person supposed to tell the difference? It's a crap shoot and what is at stake is my eternal salvation? Seems pretty petty doesn't it?
In the event that indoctrination hasn't worked, your god rewards lucky gamblers!

NDanger

“Third Eye”

Since: Nov 10

You can't get there from here.

#58 Mar 22, 2013
cvor wrote:
Ndanger just proved his selective standards!
No, this is how it goes down...we do what you do and then you whine...
cvor

Kladno, Czech Republic

#59 Mar 22, 2013
NDanger wrote:
<quoted text>
No, this is how it goes down...we do what you do and then you whine...
WOW....80 percent designated a SPECIFIC religious affiliation.

Oscar better get on his knees and pray real hard for us atheists to get hiv....bahahahahhahhahahahaha

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#60 Mar 23, 2013
NDanger wrote:
<quoted text>
No, this is how it goes down...we do what you do and then you whine...
That is not correct.

You have made a positive assertion that something exists. I will await as you prove it.

We will see how you respond.

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