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#1 Jun 22, 2013
I have some questions that I would like to ask...without fighting...without mean or unreasonable attitudes toward the questions that I ask. Please. Would it be possible?
Cisco Kid

Modesto, CA

#2 Jun 22, 2013
I_see_you wrote:
I have some questions that I would like to ask...without fighting...without mean or unreasonable attitudes toward the questions that I ask. Please. Would it be possible?
Sure it is possible.
Can we try one question at a time?
What is your first question?

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#3 Jun 22, 2013
Awesome :) Thank you :D O.k. First one is. When someone says the father son and the holy ghost. Are they all 3 the same entity?
Cisco Kid

Modesto, CA

#4 Jun 22, 2013
I_see_you wrote:
Awesome :) Thank you :D O.k. First one is. When someone says the father son and the holy ghost. Are they all 3 the same entity?
Yes, The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are all the three persons of God.

Check this out, if this gets too deep, ask me for clarification.

The Trinity is One.
We do not confess three Gods, but one God in three persons, the consubstantial Trinity.

The divine persons do not share the one divinity among themselves but each of them is God whole and entire:
The Father is that which the Son is, the Son that which the Father is, the Father and the Son that which the Holy Spirit is, i.e., by nature one God.

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#5 Jun 22, 2013
o.k...I was on the atheist forum and the verse "Father, why have you forsaken me?", came into the conversation. I went to church when I was younger, and I've always had this question, but never asked it...now I ask it and people are too busy arguing to try to explain it to me, and I'd actually like to hear it from a believer.

When Jesus asks this question why is he speaking in 2nd person?
Prophet of Jesus Christ

San Antonio, TX

#6 Jun 23, 2013
Cisco Kid wrote:
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Yes, The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are all the three persons of God.
Check this out, if this gets too deep, ask me for clarification.
The Trinity is One.
We do not confess three Gods, but one God in three persons, the consubstantial Trinity.
The divine persons do not share the one divinity among themselves but each of them is God whole and entire:
The Father is that which the Son is, the Son that which the Father is, the Father and the Son that which the Holy Spirit is, i.e., by nature one God.
Hey retard. Boy, did he set you up.

lol

lol

lol
Cisco Kid

Modesto, CA

#7 Jun 23, 2013
I_see_you wrote:
o.k...I was on the atheist forum and the verse "Father, why have you forsaken me?", came into the conversation. I went to church when I was younger, and I've always had this question, but never asked it...now I ask it and people are too busy arguing to try to explain it to me, and I'd actually like to hear it from a believer.
When Jesus asks this question why is he speaking in 2nd person?
Jesus does not use the term Father, the verse correctly rendered is;
"And at three o’clock Jesus cried out in a loud voice,
“Eloi, Eloi, lema sabachthani?” which translated from Aramaic is,
“My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”

Jesus was praying psalm 22:2 so that the people would know they crucified The Messiah predicted throughout scripture;

"My God, my God, why have you abandoned me?
Why so far from my call for help,
from my cries of anguish?"
Prophet of Jesus Christ

San Antonio, TX

#8 Jun 23, 2013
Cisco Kid wrote:
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Jesus does not use the term Father, the verse correctly rendered is;
"And at three o’clock Jesus cried out in a loud voice,
“Eloi, Eloi, lema sabachthani?” which translated from Aramaic is,
“My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”
Jesus was praying psalm 22:2 so that the people would know they crucified The Messiah predicted throughout scripture;
"My God, my God, why have you abandoned me?
Why so far from my call for help,
from my cries of anguish?"
lol

lol

lol

You are a retarded idiot.

“My name is Trunks...”

Since: Jun 10

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#9 Jun 23, 2013
So, POJC, I take it you're not a Christian, then? Just curious.
Prophet of Jesus Christ

San Antonio, TX

#10 Jun 23, 2013
Lelouch0 wrote:
So, POJC, I take it you're not a Christian, then? Just curious.
No, I am not a Christian. I am a son of God.

There are no Christians on Earth. They are all dead long ago. These people calling themselves Christians are impostors, deceivers. They are children of the devil trying to hijack the Kingdom of God.
Prophet of Jesus Christ

San Antonio, TX

#11 Jun 23, 2013
A Christian is exactly what they are said to be in the Book of Acts.

Acts, Chapter 11, 26: And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

It was just a slang word that the disciples in the city of Antioch were referred too.

THAT IS ALL.

You can see how Satan has exploited this.

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#12 Jun 23, 2013
Prophet of Jesus Christ wrote:
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lol
lol
lol
You are a retarded idiot.
You are saying you are a christian? Can I ask you some questions?
Prophet of Jesus Christ

San Antonio, TX

#13 Jun 23, 2013
Nicki 2013 wrote:
<quoted text>You are saying you are a christian? Can I ask you some questions?
No..You are saying that I am saying I am a Christian.

I did not say I was a Christian.

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#14 Jun 23, 2013
Cisco Kid wrote:
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Jesus does not use the term Father, the verse correctly rendered is;
"And at three o’clock Jesus cried out in a loud voice,
“Eloi, Eloi, lema sabachthani?” which translated from Aramaic is,
“My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”
Jesus was praying psalm 22:2 so that the people would know they crucified The Messiah predicted throughout scripture;
"My God, my God, why have you abandoned me?
Why so far from my call for help,
from my cries of anguish?"
Thank you for the actual language spoken...that is greatly appreciated. I still however, don't understand, if all three are the same entity, why he spoke in 2nd person. Please understand, I'm really not asking to be difficult or to argue. I am not a troll. It's one question I've always had, and I never asked my church family because I just believed everything without asking. That sounds bad, but I was really young and grew up in the church so I didn't start questioning until I was older. Thank you for your patience.

“It's all in your head”

Since: Dec 12

Euless, TX

#15 Jun 23, 2013
Prophet of Jesus Christ wrote:
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No..You are saying that I am saying I am a Christian.
I did not say I was a Christian.
I read it as you saying you were not a Christian. I think he left out the "not". I think it could have been a typo on his part.
Prophet of Jesus Christ

San Antonio, TX

#16 Jun 23, 2013
I_see_you wrote:
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Thank you for the actual language spoken...that is greatly appreciated. I still however, don't understand, if all three are the same entity, why he spoke in 2nd person. Please understand, I'm really not asking to be difficult or to argue. I am not a troll. It's one question I've always had, and I never asked my church family because I just believed everything without asking. That sounds bad, but I was really young and grew up in the church so I didn't start questioning until I was older. Thank you for your patience.
He does not know what he is talking about. And what he told you is incorrect and not the truth. He does not know the truth. And I am pretty sure just about all the answers he will give you will be incorrect.
Prophet of Jesus Christ

San Antonio, TX

#17 Jun 23, 2013
Nicki 2013 wrote:
<quoted text>You are saying you are a christian? Can I ask you some questions?
Yes ask away.

I may or may not answer them.
Cisco Kid

Modesto, CA

#18 Jun 23, 2013
I_see_you wrote:
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Thank you for the actual language spoken...that is greatly appreciated. I still however, don't understand, if all three are the same entity, why he spoke in 2nd person. Please understand, I'm really not asking to be difficult or to argue. I am not a troll. It's one question I've always had, and I never asked my church family because I just believed everything without asking. That sounds bad, but I was really young and grew up in the church so I didn't start questioning until I was older. Thank you for your patience.
The answer to the question I think you're asking is so simple and obvious it's often overlooked.

A rabbi is a teacher.
Jesus was called rabbi and is known as the great teacher.
When Jesus speaks to God in the second person, it is what is known as a teaching moment.
Jesus is teaching mankind, that's one of the main reasons God came to the earth as The Son of Man.

For instance, Jesus instructs the disciples on prayer;

“This is how you are to pray:

Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name,

your kingdom come,
your will be done,
on earth as in heaven....."

Jesus and The Father share the same will, so Jesus could have said, "hallowed be my name, my kingdom come, etc;"
But that would confuse people and defeat the lesson.

“My name is Trunks...”

Since: Jun 10

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#19 Jun 23, 2013
That IS confusing.
Prophet of Jesus Christ

San Antonio, TX

#20 Jun 23, 2013
Cisco Kid wrote:
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The answer to the question I think you're asking is so simple and obvious it's often overlooked.
A rabbi is a teacher.
Jesus was called rabbi and is known as the great teacher.
When Jesus speaks to God in the second person, it is what is known as a teaching moment.
Jesus is teaching mankind, that's one of the main reasons God came to the earth as The Son of Man.
For instance, Jesus instructs the disciples on prayer;
“This is how you are to pray:
Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name,
your kingdom come,
your will be done,
on earth as in heaven....."
Jesus and The Father share the same will, so Jesus could have said, "hallowed be my name, my kingdom come, etc;"
But that would confuse people and defeat the lesson.
lol

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