Jehovah's Witnesses Christian or Cult?

Jehovah's Witnesses Christian or Cult?

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Ant

Alpharetta, GA

#3 Jul 18, 2013
Cult
Johnny Trunk

Philadelphia, PA

#4 Jul 18, 2013
Seentheotherside wrote:
Part II
Russell adopted many of his doctrines from the Seventh-Day Adventists, but the JWs began to emphasize door-to-door evangelism and literature distribution after Russell's death and subsequent leadership assumption by Joseph Franklin Rutherford. The JWs have published over ten billion pieces of literature since 1928. Its main periodicals are The Watchtower magazine (circulation of over 20 million in more than 130 languages) and Awake!(about 16 million copies in more than 80 languages), both published semi-monthly.
Historically, the JWs are best known for their practices of refusing:(1) to serve in the military; (2) to salute the flag; (3) to celebrate Christmas, birthdays, or other holidays; and (4) to give or to accept blood transfusions.[Rejecting the medical practices of vaccinations, organ transplants, and blood transfusions, the Watchtower has caused the deaths of many of its members throughout its history. Interestingly, vaccinations and organ transplants have now been acknowledged by the Watchtower as acceptable practices, contradicting their previous doctrinal position.](Although some of these practices are neither Biblical nor unbiblical in and of themselves, depending upon one's motives and the exact nature of the practice, the reasons the JWs give for them often are unbiblical.)
John>>

How has the Watchtower caused the Death of many of its members over the years?
The Lion of God

San Antonio, TX

#5 Jul 18, 2013
Johnny Trunk wrote:
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John>>
How has the Watchtower caused the Death of many of its members over the years?
How come you cut and run?

I started a thread just so you can prove to me that Jesus is an angel. Go get anyone of your faith that is the wise to help you.
Johnny Trunk

Philadelphia, PA

#6 Jul 18, 2013
The Lion of God wrote:
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How come you cut and run?
I started a thread just so you can prove to me that Jesus is an angel. Go get anyone of your faith that is the wise to help you.
John>>

1 Thessalonians 4:16
Darby Translation (DARBY)
16 for the Lord himself, with an assembling shout, with archangel's voice and with trump of God, shall descend from heaven; and the dead in Christ shall rise first;

Jesus has the voice of an archangel.
I don`t doubt this I don`t need any help. there are other scriptures.8103
Johnny Trunk

Philadelphia, PA

#7 Jul 18, 2013
The Lion of God wrote:
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How come you cut and run?
I started a thread just so you can prove to me that Jesus is an angel. Go get anyone of your faith that is the wise to help you.
John>>

What do you think I am Going to hang on your every word?
The Lion of God

San Antonio, TX

#8 Jul 18, 2013
Johnny Trunk wrote:
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John>>
What do you think I am Going to hang on your every word?
JESUS is NOT the ARCH ANGEL MICHEAL - DEBATE

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/christian...

If you are not scared to put what you believe on the line...I am waiting on you.

I think you are a coward and will cut and run when put to the test.
The Lion of God

San Antonio, TX

#9 Jul 18, 2013
Did you see what my God did to the idiot retard bill?

lol

lol

lol

He lost his life his soul and all his blessings.
The Lion of God

San Antonio, TX

#10 Jul 18, 2013
I rule the spirit realm.

By the Spirit of my God.

“Jesus is Lord”

Since: Aug 11

Greenwood, Indiana

#11 Jul 18, 2013
Cult, FACT....
Johnny Trunk

Philadelphia, PA

#12 Jul 18, 2013
The Lion of God wrote:
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How come you cut and run?
I started a thread just so you can prove to me that Jesus is an angel. Go get anyone of your faith that is the wise to help you.
John>>

Daniel 12:1
Expanded Bible (EXB)
The Time of the End

12 “At that time Michael, the great prince [C&#8239;angel] who ·protects [L&#8239;stands by] your people [10:13, 21], will ·stand up [arise].

Compare with

Hebrews 10:13
Expanded Bible (EXB)
13 And now ·Christ [L&#8239;he] waits there for his enemies to be ·put under his power [L&#8239;made a footstool for his feet;
========== When Micheal stands up the dead will rise

Daniel 12:2
Expanded Bible (EXB)
2 Many people who ·have already died [L&#8239;are sleeping in the land of the dust] will ·live again [L&#8239;wake up]. Some will wake up to life forever, but some will wake up to ·shame [reproach] and ·disgrace [abhorrence] forever

When Jesus comes the dead will rise.

John 5:28-29
Darby Translation (DARBY)
28 Wonder not at this, for an hour is coming in which all who are in the tombs shall hear his voice,

29 and shall go forth; those that have practised good, to resurrection of life, and those that have done evil, to resurrection of judgment.

Matthew 25:46
Darby Translation (DARBY)
46 And these shall go away into eternal punishment, and the righteous into life eternal.
==========

Jesus has the voice of an archangel.

1 Thessalonians 4:16
Darby Translation (DARBY)
16 for the Lord himself, with an assembling shout, with archangel's voice and with trump of God, shall descend from heaven; and the dead in Christ shall rise first;
The Lion of God

San Antonio, TX

#13 Jul 18, 2013
Johnny Trunk wrote:
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John>>
Daniel 12:1
Expanded Bible (EXB)
The Time of the End
12 “At that time Michael, the great prince [C&#8239;angel] who ·protects [L&#8239;stands by] your people [10:13, 21], will ·stand up [arise].
Compare with
Hebrews 10:13
Expanded Bible (EXB)
13 And now ·Christ [L&#8239;he] waits there for his enemies to be ·put under his power [L&#8239;made a footstool for his feet;
========== When Micheal stands up the dead will rise
Daniel 12:2
Expanded Bible (EXB)
2 Many people who ·have already died [L&#8239;are sleeping in the land of the dust] will ·live again [L&#8239;wake up]. Some will wake up to life forever, but some will wake up to ·shame [reproach] and ·disgrace [abhorrence] forever
When Jesus comes the dead will rise.
John 5:28-29
Darby Translation (DARBY)
28 Wonder not at this, for an hour is coming in which all who are in the tombs shall hear his voice,
29 and shall go forth; those that have practised good, to resurrection of life, and those that have done evil, to resurrection of judgment.
Matthew 25:46
Darby Translation (DARBY)
46 And these shall go away into eternal punishment, and the righteous into life eternal.
==========
Jesus has the voice of an archangel.
1 Thessalonians 4:16
Darby Translation (DARBY)
16 for the Lord himself, with an assembling shout, with archangel's voice and with trump of God, shall descend from heaven; and the dead in Christ shall rise first;
You think by bombarding me with all these scriptures you can sneak out the back door?

lol

lol

lol

You have several unanswered rebuttals already on the other thread.
The Lion of God

San Antonio, TX

#14 Jul 18, 2013
You answer them first...then we can proceed.
The Lion of God

San Antonio, TX

#15 Jul 18, 2013
By the way...God is watching this battle. You might ought to keep that in mind when you try to hiding from the truth.
Truthsayer777

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#16 Jul 18, 2013
The Lion of God wrote:
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How come you cut and run?
I started a thread just so you can prove to me that Jesus is an angel. Go get anyone of your faith that is the wise to help you.
No more "Prophet of jesus Christ," Mr. Stair?
Truthsayer777

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#17 Jul 18, 2013
Seentheotherside wrote:
Jehovah's Witnesses
Christian or Cult?
Jehovah's Witnesses, also known as the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society (with headquarters in Brooklyn, New York), was officially founded in 1884 [as the Zion's Watch Tower and Tract Society (originally the Zion's Watch Tower in 1879), officially adopting the name of Jehovah's Witnesses in 1931], by Charles Taze Russell (1852-1916). In 1870, Russell was exposed to the teachings of William Miller, one of the founders of the Second Adventist Movement and acquired an interest in end time prophecies. Russell originally denied the doctrine of Hell, and would go on to reject nearly every other Christian doctrine, as well as add many physically and spiritually dangerous doctrines of his own making. Many of these unique and bizarre teachings were to be found in his six volume series titled, Studies in the Scriptures.
For the year 2000, the Watchtower Society claims a worldwide membership of over six million (about one million U.S.) in more than 91,000 congregations in 235 countries speaking 340 languages, and takes in approximately 300,000 new members each year (288,907 in 2000). According to JW statistics, yearly proselytizing is accomplished via 4.8 million home Bible studies and 1.2 billion hours of witnessing. The JWs field over 500,000 full and part-time missionaries. Instruction and training are provided for all JWs at five meetings a week, held primarily in "Kingdom Halls." Every week, an average of 45 new JW congregations are formed.[In the year 2000 in the United States alone, it was reported that 988,000 Jehovah's Witnesses spent more than 181 million hours in field service (i.e., door-to-door witnessing and Bible studies).]
JW leadership claims its victims by asserting itself to be the sole Christian religion and authority on the earth today, as well as God's mouthpiece or prophet. The Watchtower further disrupts families through its harsh and unbiblical interpretation of "disfellowshipping" and the practice of "shunning." Family members who are former JWs are labeled by Watchtower adherents as "apostates" and prevented from even social contact. Disfellowshipped or disassociated children, parents, and grandparents are kept from any type of communication with active members of the organization. Divorces are common within the sect when one member becomes disillusioned with Watchtower teaching and mind-control.
Not only has the name of this cult been changed time and again, but they also change their doctrines regularly -- between 1917 and 1928, they changed their doctrines 148 times!(Prior to 1931, Jehovah's Witnesses had also gone by the names of Millennial Dawn, People's Pulpit Association, The Brooklyn Tabernacle, and the International Bible Students Association.) Russell died in 1916 and was replaced by the second president, Joseph F. Rutherford. "A process of replacing Russell's writings with Rutherford's began in 1921 with the publication of Rutherford's Harp of God. Between 1921 and 1941, Rutherford was to write twenty books and numerous pamphlets, which would slowly revise the doctrine and structure left him by Russell" (Encyclopedia of American Religions, G. Melton, Vol. 1, p. 485). One of Rutherford's books that caused a great amount of controversy was the seventh volume of the Studies in the Scriptures.
Of course the J.W's are a cult. That's old news.
Johnny Trunk

Philadelphia, PA

#18 Jul 18, 2013
The Lion of God wrote:
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You think by bombarding me with all these scriptures you can sneak out the back door?
lol
lol
lol
You have several unanswered rebuttals already on the other thread.
John>>

looks like your the one not answering.

What are you talking about sneaking out the back door your the one taking the Back door by changing the subject.

I answer questions when I see them I don`t have all day to hang out on the internet.
The Lion of God

San Antonio, TX

#19 Jul 18, 2013
Johnny Trunk wrote:
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John>>
looks like your the one not answering.
What are you talking about sneaking out the back door your the one taking the Back door by changing the subject.
I answer questions when I see them I don`t have all day to hang out on the internet.
Now you are out right lying.

That is what I wanted you to do.

“Life Force One”

Since: Jul 07

The Spiritual Universe/God

#20 Jul 18, 2013
Johnny Trunk wrote:
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John>>
How has the Watchtower caused the Death of many of its members over the years?
Gasp!!!

You actually READ the article??!!

That's against your cult's rules, to read anything pointing out the falseness of your cult. You can be thrown out you know.

The sick leaders of the JWs would not allow their braniwashed minion to have blood transfusions. Many people have died because of it.

The evil greedy leaders made up many "end of the world" lies to bolster membership and get more $$$$. And when nothing ever happened, many people who gave away everything they had, committed suicide.

Many more people committed suicide after being excommunicated from the cult.

The evil leaders also told it's brainwashed minion in Africa NOT to get the government mandated identity card, which resulted in thousands being killed.

You don't know much about your evil cult I see.

“Life Force One”

Since: Jul 07

The Spiritual Universe/God

#21 Jul 18, 2013
The Lion of God wrote:
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Now you are out right lying.
That is what I wanted you to do.
He's a JW. They are told it's ok to lie for the "good of the cult".

“Life Force One”

Since: Jul 07

The Spiritual Universe/God

#22 Jul 18, 2013
Johnny Trunk wrote:
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John>>
1 Thessalonians 4:16
Darby Translation (DARBY)
16 for the Lord himself, with an assembling shout, with archangel's voice and with trump of God, shall descend from heaven; and the dead in Christ shall rise first;
Jesus has the voice of an archangel.
I don`t doubt this I don`t need any help. there are other scriptures.8103
And THAT shows the power of the JW's brainwashing. You are so deeply brainwashed, you cannot even read what it REALLY says. Only what you've been brainwashed to "see", even if it's not there.

It says the >>>LORD<<< (spoke) with archangel's voice. >>>NOT<<< Jesus.

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