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#21 Dec 18, 2009
Mithraism in it's early forums was very pagan and had little to no resemblance to Christianity. Due to a lack of writings little is known about it. Later it was adopted by the Roman soldiers and became a military cult type following. Often elements of this later generation of Mithraism is compared to Christianity. The problem is this brand of Mithraism did not exist until after the ministry of Jesus. In fact many scholars believe that the form of Mithraism compared to Christianity was actually copied form Christianity.

A telltale sign people don't know the subject of comparing Christianity to other religions is the Mithraism lie. There are several others. Mithraism just happens to be one I have read about.

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#22 Dec 18, 2009
Venus_Rearmed wrote:
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Zoroaster predated those prophesies. I was taught, also, in church that all the similarities to other religions were THOSE religions copying Christianity - it was when I studied on my own further that I found that was not true...Christianity came later than the things it copied.
No one knows for sure when Zarathustra (a.k.a. Zoroaster) lived. Some say 500-600 B.C. others claim 1500 to 1200 B.C. One thing for sure, we know very little about Zoroaster and what he taught. What we are told today about what he taught is nothing but conjecture in the form of modern Zoroastrianism since The only source for Zarathustra’s teachings is the Avesta, and "the oldest copies we have of the Avesta date from the 13th Century AD." Accordingly, Christians can argue the there is no historical support that Zoroaster taught pre-Christian-like theology.

What I also find interesting is that anti-Christian skeptics will cite Zoroaster as evidence that Christianity borrowed from other religions, however, they fail to recognize the lack of historical support and the fact that the only Zoroastrianism writings came well after both the Hebrew scriptures and New Testament were written. So, the claims concerning Zoroastrianism are obviously unsubstantiated claims, which is precisely the same thing that anti-Christians contend about Christianity. LOL!
Meg 06

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#23 Dec 18, 2009
Xcaliber wrote:
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No one knows for sure when Zarathustra (a.k.a. Zoroaster) lived. Some say 500-600 B.C. others claim 1500 to 1200 B.C. One thing for sure, we know very little about Zoroaster and what he taught. What we are told today about what he taught is nothing but conjecture in the form of modern Zoroastrianism since The only source for Zarathustra’s teachings is the Avesta, and "the oldest copies we have of the Avesta date from the 13th Century AD." Accordingly, Christians can argue the there is no historical support that Zoroaster taught pre-Christian-like theology.
What I also find interesting is that anti-Christian skeptics will cite Zoroaster as evidence that Christianity borrowed from other religions, however, they fail to recognize the lack of historical support and the fact that the only Zoroastrianism writings came well after both the Hebrew scriptures and New Testament were written. So, the claims concerning Zoroastrianism are obviously unsubstantiated claims, which is precisely the same thing that anti-Christians contend about Christianity. LOL!
Historians and religious scholars generally date his life sometime between 1500 and 1000 BCE on the basis of his style of writing.
godno

Medford, MA

#24 Dec 18, 2009
angelinaUK wrote:
<quoted text>Hello Venus, hope you are well,
There are bible scholars who would say that Jesus was prophesied as far back as Genesis.
I'm no scholar re these things but what I have read in the past makes sense to me:)
If that was true Jews would believe Jesus was Messiah but they say he did not fulfill prophesy
Some Dude

Pittsburgh, PA

#25 Dec 18, 2009
And Jesus told them,

"And the Father who sent me has himself testified concerning me. You have never heard his voice nor seen his form,
nor does his word dwell in you, for you do not believe the one he sent.
You diligently study the Scriptures because you think that by them you possess eternal life. These are the Scriptures that testify about me,
yet you refuse to come to me to have life."

John 5:37-40 (NIV)

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#26 Dec 18, 2009
godno wrote:
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If that was true Jews would believe Jesus was Messiah but they say he did not fulfill prophesy
Isaiah 53 tells us that he would be despised and rejected.
The Faithful Witness

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#27 Dec 18, 2009
angelinaUK wrote:
<quoted text>Isaiah 53 tells us that he would be despised and rejected.
And so it is.

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#28 Dec 18, 2009
Meg 06 wrote:
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Historians and religious scholars generally date his life sometime between 1500 and 1000 BCE on the basis of his style of writing.
This dating is based on some scholars who try to decipher Zoroastrian writings in order to place a date as to when written. However, "direct Zoroastrian tradition, as well as contemporary scholars, place him between 660 and 583 B.C., and describes him as a reformer who sought to change the religion of Bactria, in southwest Asia, which appears to have been primarily a worship of the forces of nature." Today, the Parsi community, which is the larger of the two major Zoroastrian communities still maintain that he lived between 660 and 583 B.C. So, putting him (assuming he existed) between 1500 and 1000 BCE is certainly a claim that is not uniformly accepted and certainly can be considered speculative revisionist dating.
Vivek Golikeri

Hollywood, FL

#29 Mar 15, 2013
There is a legend that Zoroaster once told people around him that several centuries after his death a great star would shine in the western sky. Then three wise men or Iran, followers of the religion he created in that lieftime, would saddle up and follow that star.

"And they shall arrive at a tiny village on the eastern fringe of a mighty empire. And there they shall find me as a newborn baby, lying among the animals in a manger."

If Jesus had been Zaratusthra in a previous incarnation, that would make perfect sense.

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