BISHOP Romney

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Santa Fe, NM

#181 Oct 12, 2012
FSM wrote:
<quoted text>LOL. You're pretty sharp 15th DL, but I've got a few decades to catch up.:)
Godspeed.
FSM

Cranbourne, Australia

#182 Oct 12, 2012
Allen Richards wrote:
Citing an OT verse intereted by a NT author is NOT "Argument from authority." The Bible is the authority
A NT interpretation of the OT is not "the authority" to me. I'm happy to work from the assumption that the OT is an authoritative source if you like.
Allen Richards wrote:
It was a reference to what happened to a relatively small segment of Israel, not the majority.
Regardless, that verse is taken completely out of context by the gospel author of Matthew.
Allen Richards wrote:
I'm sure you think your opinion is reasonable but you are trying to reinterpret scripture.
No, "Matthew" is trying to reinterpret it.
Allen Richards wrote:
Why do you think the views of as yet unidentified "Jews" more valid than the gospel authors?
What makes one interpretation of the OT more valid than another (in your opinion)?
FSM

Cranbourne, Australia

#183 Oct 12, 2012
15th Dalai Lama wrote:
Godspeed.
:)

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Since: Mar 11

US 62 @ US 81

#184 Oct 12, 2012
FSM wrote:
<quoted text>A NT interpretation of the OT is not "the authority" to me. I'm happy to work from the assumption that the OT is an authoritative source if you like.
<quoted text>Regardless, that verse is taken completely out of context by the gospel author of Matthew.
<quoted text>No, "Matthew" is trying to reinterpret it.
<quoted text>What makes one interpretation of the OT more valid than another (in your opinion)?
I consider both the OT and NT authoritative.

Matthew did not consider his citation "out of context." The early church and the church since then also did not think the citation was out of context.

QED that Matthew reintereted scripture.

The interepration of scripture which appears in scripture and the acceptance of the church is more valid that opinions expressed 1970 years +/- later.
FSM

Cranbourne, Australia

#185 Oct 12, 2012
Allen Richards wrote:
I consider both the OT and NT authoritative.
Understood, but note that I wont agree to that.
Allen Richards wrote:
Matthew did not consider his citation "out of context." The early church and the church since then also did not think the citation was out of context.
What the church considers authoritative is irrelevant to my viewpoint. In any scriptural discussion with Christians, I will always be happy to accept the assumption that the OT is authoritative.
Allen Richards wrote:
QED that Matthew reintereted scripture.
Lets agree to disagree.
Allen Richards wrote:
The interepration of scripture which appears in scripture and the acceptance of the church is more valid that opinions expressed 1970 years +/- later.
OK. I'm not sure what you want from me. If I find interpretations of OT scripture that were made before 32AD, will you accept them?

“Call sign: Apache One Six”

Since: Mar 11

US 62 @ US 81

#186 Oct 12, 2012
FSM wrote:
<quoted text>Understood, but note that I wont agree to that.
<quoted text>What the church considers authoritative is irrelevant to my viewpoint. In any scriptural discussion with Christians, I will always be happy to accept the assumption that the OT is authoritative.
This is the Christian sub-forum if you reject the NT which makes us Christians we have nothing further to talk about.
OK. I'm not sure what you want from me. If I find interpretations of OT scripture that were made before 32AD, will you accept them?
Not necessarily, see previous reply.
ltb

Philadelphia, PA

#187 Oct 12, 2012
Sola Scriptura wrote:
<quoted text>
It's none of your BUSINESS if I vote or not. That plain enough for you? So if I complain you won't know if I have voted or not and that will just drive you stark raving mad, won't it? LMAO
On second thought, please DON'T vote. It's better that morons don't have any say. Things don't need to be even more screwded up then they already are.

Mad? Seeing what a clueless idiot you are makes me GRATEFUL that you're too lazy to get informed and do your civic duty. You must be so proud of yourself....Hahahaha
ltb

Philadelphia, PA

#188 Oct 12, 2012
FSM wrote:
<quoted text>IMO the idea of looking for a singular correct interpretation is a mistake. The bible is a book of philosophy and wisdom from the perspective of ancient men. Nothing more, nothing less. In that light, it's an interesting book full of useful information. When people claim it as absolute truth or an instruction manual for life, they're completely missing the point.
Interesting. I agree.

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Since: Mar 11

US 62 @ US 81

#189 Oct 12, 2012
ltb wrote:
<quoted text>
On second thought, please DON'T vote. It's better that morons don't have any say. Things don't need to be even more screwded up then they already are.
Mad? Seeing what a clueless idiot you are makes me GRATEFUL that you're too lazy to get informed and do your civic duty. You must be so proud of yourself....Hahahaha
blah, blah blah morons blah, blah blah screwded up blah, blah blah clueless idiot blah, blah blah too lazy blah, blah blah.

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Rio Rancho, NM

#190 Oct 12, 2012
Allen Richards wrote:
<quoted text>
blah, blah blah morons blah, blah blah screwded up blah, blah blah clueless idiot blah, blah blah too lazy blah, blah blah.
Do you get a ringing in your ears when this happens? Twitches? What?

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Since: Mar 11

US 62 @ US 81

#191 Oct 12, 2012
15th Dalai Lama wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you get a ringing in your ears when this happens? Twitches? What?
Do you? You rant, I rant back!

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Rio Rancho, NM

#192 Oct 12, 2012
Allen Richards wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you? You rant, I rant back!
That's debatable. Nevertheless, this is not a rant. This is infantile blather.

Jazybird58

“Reality bites”

Since: Dec 11

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#194 Oct 12, 2012
Allen Richards wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you? You rant, I rant back!
Why are you so pissed at the world? I get that you have a misshapen head, that's not an excuse.

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Since: Mar 11

US 62 @ US 81

#195 Oct 12, 2012
Jazybird58 wrote:
<quoted text>Why are you so pissed at the world? I get that you have a misshapen head, that's not an excuse.
Do you get a ringing in your ears when this happens? Twitches? What?

“God Loves Ilks!”

Since: Feb 08

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#196 Oct 12, 2012
Allen Richards wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you get a ringing in your ears when this happens? Twitches? What?
I just took a closer look at our pic in your Avatar.
What kind of haircut is that?
Are you wearing a hair piece?

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Since: Mar 11

US 62 @ US 81

#197 Oct 12, 2012
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>I just took a closer look at our pic in your Avatar.
What kind of haircut is that?
Are you wearing a hair piece?
That is how I had to cut my hair when I was learning to be an officer and a gentleman. I left it that way until a few months after that picture because it was a lot easier to take care of "in country," where amenities were scarce. For example, our toilet was 1/2 a 55 gallon drum and the contents were burnt with diesel fuel every day. No hair piece and I still don't have one.

“God Loves Ilks!”

Since: Feb 08

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#198 Oct 12, 2012
Allen Richards wrote:
<quoted text>
That is how I had to cut my hair when I was learning to be an officer and a gentleman. I left it that way until a few months after that picture because it was a lot easier to take care of "in country," where amenities were scarce. For example, our toilet was 1/2 a 55 gallon drum and the contents were burnt with diesel fuel every day. No hair piece and I still don't have one.
I knew plenty of Army officers in my time, and now of them had a haircut quite like yours.

Except one guy who tried to cut his own and botched it.

“Call sign: Apache One Six”

Since: Mar 11

US 62 @ US 81

#199 Oct 12, 2012
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>I knew plenty of Army officers in my time, and now of them had a haircut quite like yours.
Except one guy who tried to cut his own and botched it.
The top is not quite long enough to comb and if the hair on the sides was long enough to be pulled it was too long. That is called "high and tight." I'm glad that you are such an expert.

Jazybird58

“Reality bites”

Since: Dec 11

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#200 Oct 12, 2012
Allen Richards wrote:
<quoted text>
The top is not quite long enough to comb and if the hair on the sides was long enough to be pulled it was too long. That is called "high and tight." I'm glad that you are such an expert.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =kBQEJ5l8L58XX
Dude wear a piece, that's some head

Jazybird58

“Reality bites”

Since: Dec 11

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#201 Oct 12, 2012
Allen Richards wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you get a ringing in your ears when this happens? Twitches? What?
You so ripped off the 15th. STEALING is wrong, Jesus hates you

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