Why are you looking forward to heaven?
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Seoul, Korea

#172 Mar 24, 2013
Big Al wrote:
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"For I imagined that what was to be got from books was not so profitable to me as what came from the living and abiding voice." - Papias, bishop of Hierapolis as quoted by Eusabius
Eusebius called Papias “a man of small mental capacity who mistook the figurative language of apostolic traditions'.”- Historia Ecclesiastica 3.39.13.
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Has any Christian ever proved that Mohammed didn’t have a revelation from the angel Gabriel? Your question is absurd. Think about it!
something is going to happen to your truck and cause you to have to pay out a lot of money for a major repair
Big Al

Grand Rapids, MN

#173 Mar 24, 2013
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something is going to happen to your truck and cause you to have to pay out a lot of money for a major repair
As you sow so shall you reap, or as normal people say you plant beans you get beans.
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Lipetsk, Russia

#174 Mar 24, 2013
Big Al wrote:
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As you sow so shall you reap, or as normal people say you plant beans you get beans.
The wife of your eldest son will leave him.

And they shall be assigned unto you.

I love it, when I get evil doers like you.

The Lord gives me permission to punish you in the spirit.

I then get take out all my hostilities and anger upon you in this.

Without any repercussions or punishment from the Lord.

Make me happy.
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Lipetsk, Russia

#175 Mar 24, 2013
we can take this from level to level.

Till you and your family cannot endure you coming on this forum and posting anymore of your idiotic retarded bullshit.

I will your face in it.

To you can't take it no more.
Bobby H

Charlotte, NC

#176 Mar 24, 2013
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If you post on here anymore I will cause evil to come upon you and your family by the way of the spirit.
Your god is a myth, Jesus is a myth and your a fruit cake! FCK u Jesus, FCK u bible god (not any real gods that may exist), FCK u holy spirit!
Now that is my real name Bobby H. so please curse me and cause evil to come upon me PLEASE!!!! I will await the evil patiently! Fruit Cake!
Bobby H

Charlotte, NC

#177 Mar 24, 2013
llllllllllllllllllll wrote:
we can take this from level to level.
Till you and your family cannot endure you coming on this forum and posting anymore of your idiotic retarded bullshit.
I will your face in it.
To you can't take it no more.
What is taking so long? Does your god need my address to be able to find me? Should I set off a flare on my roof? I waited 3 hours so far and the only thing that has happened is my wife surprised me with a bj! Come on, it wasn't even an evil demon possessed bj, you can do better than that Fruit Cake! You must really feel threatened when an intelligent delution-free poster speaks the truth on here huh?
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Curitiba, Brazil

#178 Mar 24, 2013
Bobby H wrote:
<quoted text>What is taking so long? Does your god need my address to be able to find me? Should I set off a flare on my roof? I waited 3 hours so far and the only thing that has happened is my wife surprised me with a bj! Come on, it wasn't even an evil demon possessed bj, you can do better than that Fruit Cake! You must really feel threatened when an intelligent delution-free poster speaks the truth on here huh?
you're going to have a heart attack

Thus saith the Lord
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Curitiba, Brazil

#179 Mar 24, 2013
you will be in ICU for no less than four days

Thus saith the Lord
Jeff

San Jose, CA

#180 Mar 24, 2013
Big Al wrote:
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"For I imagined that what was to be got from books was not so profitable to me as what came from the living and abiding voice." - Papias, bishop of Hierapolis as quoted by Eusabius
Eusebius called Papias “a man of small mental capacity who mistook the figurative language of apostolic traditions'.”- Historia Ecclesiastica 3.39.13.
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Has any Christian ever proved that Mohammed didn’t have a revelation from the angel Gabriel? Your question is absurd. Think about it!
Did Eusebius claim that Papias was lying about who wrote the gospels?
Do you know what Eusebius meant when he wrote Papias “a man of small mental capacity who mistook the figurative language of apostolic traditions"? What is the context for this? How do we know Eusebius is right about Papias?

Mohammed claims to have gotten his message privately from an angel. No way to test it. Its a lot like Joseph Smith.
Jesus on the other hand taught in public and performed miracles in public. We know He was crucified on Friday by the Romans who knew how to kill people. Jesus was put in a tomb that others could check. It was guarded by the Romans who knew how to guard a tomb. In fact if they failed to guard it correctly the soldiers would lose their lives. On Sunday the tomb is empty and the body of Jesus was never found. The Jewish leaders tried to explain away the empty tomb but could not. All they needed to do was to produce the body of Jesus and that would have stopped Christianity in its tracks. They couldn't. The disciples could not have overpowered the guards to steal body either. Jesus is seen alive that Sunday and for 40 days to over 500 people in different locations and times. The only explanation is that He rose from the dead. No other explanation makes sense of all the facts.
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Kladno, Czech Republic

#181 Mar 24, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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Jeff

Did I give you permission to post on here?
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Kladno, Czech Republic

#182 Mar 24, 2013
God has told me that I am in charge of this forum now.

he said that if I can make something good happen from it to go ahead and try

He also gave me the power and authority to do as I saw fit.

I do not recall giving you permission to post on this forum.
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Kladno, Czech Republic

#183 Mar 24, 2013
I do not recall you even asking me for permission to post on this forum that God has put me in charge of.
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Kladno, Czech Republic

#184 Mar 24, 2013
that would make you a trespasser committing a trespass, would it not?
Jeff

San Jose, CA

#185 Mar 24, 2013
Big Al wrote:
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Now you’re a mind reader. You know what the writers of the Talmud knew but didn’t write.
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Dr. Bart D. Ehrman is currently the James A. Gray Distinguished Professor of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. I think he has probably studied the subject in more depth than you.
If four Nazi’s wrote narratives about the great accomplishments of Hitler would you consider those independent sources?
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True there are no “existing” non-Christian contemporary accounts or mentions of Jesus. There could also have been documents that contradicted the the stories of the gospels that did not survive. Woulda, coulda, shoulda.
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Philo was a Jewish historian and Jesus, according to the Bible, was a prominent and prolific Jewish teacher that attracted large crowds of people. One would think that would a subject a Jewish historian would want to write about.
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Jews during that period of time were required to make a pilgrimage to Jerusalem (the temple) three times a year Pesach (Passover), Shavuot (Pentecost), and Sukkot (Tabernacles). You would think he would have at least heard about a new Jewish teacher on one of his trips to Jerusalem, if not run into Jesus himself or one of his followers. It would suggest that the phenomenon of Jesus was not that big a deal.
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I beg to differ!
There is general agreement among Bible scholars of all denominations that the gospels were unsigned.
“Strictly speaking, each gospel (and Acts) is anonymous.”- Stephen L. Harris .Professor Emeritus of Humanities and Religious Studies at California State University, MA and PhD degrees from Cornell University, member of the American Academy of Religion
“The first four historical books of the New Testament are supplied with titles (Euaggelion kata Matthaion, Euaggelion kata Markon, etc.), which, however ancient, do not go back to the respective authors of those sacred writings.”- New Advent Catholic Encyclopedia
"They appeared anonymously. The titles placed above them in our Bibles owe their origin to a later ecclesiastical tradition which deserves no confidence whatever" - Rev. Dr. Hooykaas,(Bible for Learners, Vol. III, p. 24)
There many scholars more knowledgeable than me about Bible history who have determined that the gospels were unsigned.
Bart is mistaken. There are many many scholars that support what I have written.
Can you produce any evidence in the first 3 centuries that give any different names to the 4 gospels? Anyone claiming that the churches of the time did not know who wrote the 4 gospels?

Why would the Talmud assert that Jesus was a sorcerer?

Though Jesus attracted large crowds that does not mean the secular authorities would have recorded it or if they did, its been lost. Could also be that those who were skeptical to begin with would have dismissed them outright. We know the Jewish leaders who Jesus engaged with discounted all His miracles. Read John 9 for an example of this kind of mind set.
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Kladno, Czech Republic

#186 Mar 24, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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Bart is mistaken. There are many many scholars that support what I have written.
Can you produce any evidence in the first 3 centuries that give any different names to the 4 gospels? Anyone claiming that the churches of the time did not know who wrote the 4 gospels?
Why would the Talmud assert that Jesus was a sorcerer?
Though Jesus attracted large crowds that does not mean the secular authorities would have recorded it or if they did, its been lost. Could also be that those who were skeptical to begin with would have dismissed them outright. We know the Jewish leaders who Jesus engaged with discounted all His miracles. Read John 9 for an example of this kind of mind set.
I see I'm going have to teach you a lesson.you're going to have to learn some obedience

I'm just wanted to do it too.

Tomorrow you're going to have a very bad day nothing is going to go right for you. This shall give you something to think about the next time you think you're going to do as you please on God's forum.

Thus saith the Lord
Big Al

Grand Rapids, MN

#187 Mar 25, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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Bart is mistaken. There are many many scholars that support what I have written.
Can you produce any evidence in the first 3 centuries that give any different names to the 4 gospels? Anyone claiming that the churches of the time did not know who wrote the 4 gospels?
You apparently don’t understand the meaning of the word anonymous.
Jeff wrote:
Why would the Talmud assert that Jesus was a sorcerer?
Because people in those days believed in magic. Jesus wasn’t the only person condidered a sorcerer. Being a called a sorcerer doesn't equal rising from the dead.
Jeff wrote:
Though Jesus attracted large crowds that does not mean the secular authorities would have recorded it or if they did, its been lost. Could also be that those who were skeptical to begin with would have dismissed them outright. We know the Jewish leaders who Jesus engaged with discounted all His miracles. Read John 9 for an example of this kind of mind set.
There were no “secular authorities”. The “authorities” were pagan Romans or Jews. Philo was Jew and so was Jesus.
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Curitiba, Brazil

#188 Mar 25, 2013
Big Al wrote:
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You apparently don’t understand the meaning of the word anonymous.
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Because people in those days believed in magic. Jesus wasn’t the only person condidered a sorcerer. Being a called a sorcerer doesn't equal rising from the dead.
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There were no “secular authorities”. The “authorities” were pagan Romans or Jews. Philo was Jew and so was Jesus.
I'm glad you came back today that means that God is going to punish you even more.

Give me some suggestions to to what I can have God do do you that will convince you to stop coming here and posting your bullshit on this forum to cause trouble and to get people to argue with you.
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Curitiba, Brazil

#189 Mar 25, 2013
tell me

Something that if it happens to you

Will cause you to stop coming here and posting on this forum
Big Al

Grand Rapids, MN

#190 Mar 25, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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Did Eusebius claim that Papias was lying about who wrote the gospels?
Do you know what Eusebius meant when he wrote Papias “a man of small mental capacity who mistook the figurative language of apostolic traditions"? What is the context for this? How do we know Eusebius is right about Papias?
Whatever Papias wrote was 100 years after Jesus died, the quote suggests that he didn’t consider the gospel of Matthew to very important, and that Eusabius didn’t consider him very bright.
Jeff wrote:
Mohammed claims to have gotten his message privately from an angel. No way to test it. Its a lot like Joseph Smith.
Exactly!

There’s no way to test the fantastic claims of the Quran and there’s no way to test the fantastic claims of the Bible.
Jeff wrote:
Jesus on the other hand taught in public and performed miracles in public. We know He was crucified on Friday by the Romans who knew how to kill people. Jesus was put in a tomb that others could check. It was guarded by the Romans who knew how to guard a tomb. In fact if they failed to guard it correctly the soldiers would lose their lives. On Sunday the tomb is empty and the body of Jesus was never found. The Jewish leaders tried to explain away the empty tomb but could not. All they needed to do was to produce the body of Jesus and that would have stopped Christianity in its tracks. They couldn't. The disciples could not have overpowered the guards to steal body either. Jesus is seen alive that Sunday and for 40 days to over 500 people in different locations and times. The only explanation is that He rose from the dead. No other explanation makes sense of all the facts.
The only source for all of this information being the Bible.
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Curitiba, Brazil

#191 Mar 25, 2013
I sure hope that evil spirit that is going to come upon you and your family teaches you a lesson you will not forget so you will repent from your sins

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