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NDanger

“Third Eye”

Since: Nov 10

You can't get there from here.

#201 Jun 22, 2013
Lilith_Sparkles wrote:
wow... just woke up and still here... lololol
our loss...
Flygerian

Oklahoma City, OK

#203 Jun 22, 2013
HighlyEvolved wrote:
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I don't care what "some people" consider, which is why your entire argument fails - there is no way to determine scientifically whether or not something is "holy."
It's an arbitrary designation, which proves that all religious belief is man made.
And so are all the gods.
So you ask me for a "holy text" that has Jesus teachings but is not in the New testament, I give you that, then you say it doesnt matter lol

Are you confused?
Flygerian

Oklahoma City, OK

#204 Jun 22, 2013
SONOFSATAN wrote:
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wow....you really are a mental giant... you think you will find the gospel of Judas in the New Testament, which proves jesus conspired with Judas to turn him in. Yeah Christians will really love that version of the story...
the new testament was filtered to provide only the most positive spin on the stories..educate yourself on how the new testament was configured and there over a 100 versions of the bible.....
"In some Bibles there exist a third section, known as the Apocrypha. These books are those which canonicity as the word of God is disputed in various churches. The Roman Catholic Church accepts some of these books as canonical and places them together with the books of the Old Testament.
The Bible is, thus, a collection of many different types of books. Not all the books carry the same message. For instance, Nehemiah, calls for the preservation of racial purity by the prohibition of inter-racial marriages, while Ruth has for its heroine a Moabite woman who married a Jew. As another example, the book of Proverbs extols living the good life which it says is God's reward for righteous living while Ecclesiastes says life is meaningless and prosperity is accidental."
Wait what? The FACT is that the NT (which as you said was compiled by people and then called the "new" testament) doesnt contain those gospels I typed and MORE that have Jesus words. So when I say "the gospel of Judas is not part of the NT" I am 100% correct. That is, unless you can find a bible(s) that show that this is not the case. You cant. Just because it has Jesus and those associated with him doesnt mean it is in the NT. Thats foolish. Thats like me writing a harry potter story and putting it into the book that the author (I forgot her name) made. You wouldnt say "yes your story belongs in the Harry potter book". Why? Because it wasnt compiled that way.

And the point of HighlyEvolved was foolish in that the NT is not the only text to contain Jesus words. That would be false as I pointed out. And theres even more texts that I didnt note.

As for your last paragraph I would disagree with your takes on what the prophets advocate. They have the same message with minor difference. Those differences are NOT the ones you mentioned.
Flygerian

Oklahoma City, OK

#206 Jun 22, 2013
NDanger wrote:
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our loss...
lol
Flygerian

United States

#210 Jun 23, 2013
Lilith_Sparkles wrote:
<quoted text>my so chriSTAIN like of you...
Im not a Christian. But you get what you give right? How you treat others is how you want to be treated right?
Flygerian

United States

#211 Jun 23, 2013
SATANISTHEGODOFLOVE wrote:
". So when I say "the gospel of Judas is not part of the NT" I am 100% correct. That is, unless you can find a bible(s) that show that this is not the case. You cant. Just because it has Jesus and those associated with him doesnt mean it is in the NT."
the point was the NT was hand picked from all the same writings... some were discarded because they put jesus in a negative light... others were modified with a positive spin....
bottom line is you have no originals of anything... authors are unknown and their are nothing about any jesus from any other independent sources....NT is it ... if you want to draw on some of the discarded documents and claim they are different, then so are the writings on the freeway bathroom rest stops...
No that was not the point. Well, maybe YOUR point but not the original one by Highly Evolved who dipped out this thread wit a quickness unseen lol. He told me to state a text that contained Jesus teachings. I stated at least 10 then you bring up an irrelevant point about who chose what went into the NT. I mean I absolutely get what you're saying, it just has NOTHING to do wit the convo you jumped into.

Oh and what were the gospels that's he'd a "negative light'? The gnostic gospels?

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#212 Jun 23, 2013
Flygerian wrote:
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Im not a Christian. But you get what you give right? How you treat others is how you want to be treated right?
If you aren't a Christian then please identify the faith/creed/church/cult you belong to.

That is, if you're not afraid to...

NDanger

“Third Eye”

Since: Nov 10

You can't get there from here.

#213 Jun 23, 2013
Lilith_Sparkles wrote:
<quoted text>geee I proved your mythical god doesn't exist now didn't I... tooooo bad for your knuckle dragging kind eeeh
Actually, you haven't proven squat...

NDanger

“Third Eye”

Since: Nov 10

You can't get there from here.

#214 Jun 23, 2013
I asked GOD not to take you... Guess it proves HE does exist...

Since: Feb 10

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#216 Jun 23, 2013
NDanger wrote:
I asked GOD not to take you... Guess it proves HE does exist...
I asked Zeus not to take you, guess that proves Zeus exists.

And that Zeus has good taste. He doesn't take idiots.

You lost this one, idiot, so just admit it.

After all, Jesus DID say that WHATEVER you asked for, God would do it. Want that mountain moved? God will do it if you ask him.

His words, your loss.
Flygerian

Oklahoma City, OK

#217 Jun 23, 2013
HighlyEvolved wrote:
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If you aren't a Christian then please identify the faith/creed/church/cult you belong to.
That is, if you're not afraid to...
Why does it matter?

NDanger

“Third Eye”

Since: Nov 10

You can't get there from here.

#218 Jun 23, 2013
HighlyEvolved wrote:
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I asked Zeus not to take you, guess that proves Zeus exists.
And that Zeus has good taste. He doesn't take idiots.
You lost this one, idiot, so just admit it.
After all, Jesus DID say that WHATEVER you asked for, God would do it. Want that mountain moved? God will do it if you ask him.
His words, your loss.
Sorry, but you don't believe in any god, so your so called prayer is moot...

your loss...

Since: Feb 10

Location hidden

#219 Jun 24, 2013
Flygerian wrote:
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Why does it matter?
So you ARE afraid to reveal what religion you identify with. I knew it!

You ask for proof that God does not exist. I have made it clear that, based on how you define God, i can prove he doesn't exist.

Since you're unwilling to reveal which religious belief system you ascribe to, you know that once you offer your definition of God I will be able to prove that your God is nonexistent.

All religious people are cowards. You are no exception.
Flygerian

Oklahoma City, OK

#220 Jun 24, 2013
HighlyEvolved wrote:
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So you ARE afraid to reveal what religion you identify with. I knew it!
You ask for proof that God does not exist. I have made it clear that, based on how you define God, i can prove he doesn't exist.
Since you're unwilling to reveal which religious belief system you ascribe to, you know that once you offer your definition of God I will be able to prove that your God is nonexistent.
All religious people are cowards. You are no exception.
Im not afraid at all. In fact watch the other threads (and go into other threads) and I state what it is that I believe in all the time. Oh well lol. I didnt think you could prove anything you said and this thread was PROOF of it ;)

Umm.... what does it matter how I "define" God? YOU have to prove He doesnt exist. Thats fair right? You made a claim that God does not exist now why dont you prove it?

Since: Feb 10

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#221 Jun 24, 2013
NDanger wrote:
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Sorry, but you don't believe in any god, so your so called prayer is moot...
your loss...
See what I mean? You are an idiot.

I wasn't asking Zeus for anything, you moron. I used that as an example of why the "I asked God to do X and X happened, therefore he exists" argument is bullsh1t.

Seriously, you're f*cking stupid.

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#222 Jun 24, 2013
Flygerian wrote:
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Im not afraid at all. In fact watch the other threads (and go into other threads) and I state what it is that I believe in all the time. Oh well lol. I didnt think you could prove anything you said and this thread was PROOF of it ;)
Umm.... what does it matter how I "define" God? YOU have to prove He doesnt exist. Thats fair right? You made a claim that God does not exist now why dont you prove it?
Another idiot! Geez...

Look stupid, here's the deal: if you refuse to identify which god or gods you believe in, how can I possibly provide an argument as to why your god or gods don't exist?

That's PRECISELY why you are afraid of me, because you know that, once you identify your God, I will demonstrate why you're a fool for believing he/she/it exists.

But since you're too stupids to understand that, maybe you'll comprehend this: If I made a claim that "plegogy" exists, then demanded that you prove it does NOT exist, how could you do it if I refused to clarify what the word "plegogy" means?

That's exactly what you've done: you've demanded that I prove the nonexistence of something that you refuse to identify or define, or even name.

You're a coward. ALL religious people are cowards.

By contrast, atheists are brave. We know for a FACT that there is no life after death, and yet we have no fear of death. We join the military, we jump out of planes, we fight fires, we police the streets - in short, atheists are just as apt to do something life-threatening as are believers.

But believers think that, even if they die, they don't die. They have a false sense of security.

Atheists, on the other hand, deal full-on with reality and are just as ready to die for a cause or a country or another person as you are.

And that makes us much braver than you, which makes YOU people cowards compared to us.

Thanks once again for proving my point.
Flygerian

Chickasha, OK

#223 Jun 24, 2013
HighlyEvolved wrote:
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Another idiot! Geez...
Look stupid, here's the deal: if you refuse to identify which god or gods you believe in, how can I possibly provide an argument as to why your god or gods don't exist?
That's PRECISELY why you are afraid of me, because you know that, once you identify your God, I will demonstrate why you're a fool for believing he/she/it exists.
So you dont know what God is? Well, I guess that much is clear. How about this, prove that the CREATOR OF ALL THINGS does not exist. Thats clear enough right? Prove that the earth,sun stars, you me, were not created but always existed or just popped up into existence out of nowhere. Thats fair right? You know exactly what I mean by when I say "God" even though that is just a nameless title. Why you want me to reveal my God is so you can find a contradiction. You tried that earlier lol. That doesnt matter. Prove that there is no
HighlyEvolved wrote:
But since you're too stupids to understand that, maybe you'll comprehend this: If I made a claim that "plegogy" exists, then demanded that you prove it does NOT exist, how could you do it if I refused to clarify what the word "plegogy" means?
That's exactly what you've done: you've demanded that I prove the nonexistence of something that you refuse to identify or define, or even name.
Well for you to say that God does not exist you have to understand what God is right? Or are you just playing dumb? Seems like this isthe real you lmao
HighlyEvolved wrote:
You're a coward. ALL religious people are cowards.
By contrast, atheists are brave. We know for a FACT that there is no life after death, and yet we have no fear of death. We join the military, we jump out of planes, we fight fires, we police the streets - in short, atheists are just as apt to do something life-threatening as are believers.
But believers think that, even if they die, they don't die. They have a false sense of security.
Atheists, on the other hand, deal full-on with reality and are just as ready to die for a cause or a country or another person as you are.
And that makes us much braver than you, which makes YOU people cowards compared to us.
Thanks once again for proving my point.
LMAO oh yeah. Nice logic here. Im not going to get into this because its just you trying to distract from the main point. I mean I could, but you would just stop speaking on it once backed into the corner. You know? Like you did when you said the only book that contains Jesus teachings is the new testament? LMAO
JJJ

Sydney, Australia

#224 Jun 25, 2013
Flygerian wrote:
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Im not afraid at all. In fact watch the other threads (and go into other threads) and I state what it is that I believe in all the time. Oh well lol. I didnt think you could prove anything you said and this thread was PROOF of it ;)
Umm.... what does it matter how I "define" God? YOU have to prove He doesnt exist. Thats fair right? You made a claim that God does not exist now why dont you prove it?
To be truthful Fly..... you have not been precise about what or who you believe in at all....not once

State you dogma clearly...... state where you got it from, ie self or a book like the bible or perhaps several sources...

Because having a discussion with you within the parameters that you use now is pretty much like fencing or boxing blind folded....

As an example.... you keep asking me why I connect human sacrifice and god (at least the biblical god)....

Now I've told you because of the ransom doctrine...okay if you are not a christian but believe in the OT god... then we have the incidence of god asking Abraham....then you say that did not happen...or that I have not read the bible

But what are you referring to.... that the OT god did NOT ask Abraham to commit human sacrifice.... or are you saying that he did but it is just a story a parable not to be taken literally...or that you don't believe in the bible OT or NT at all?

And if the latter is the case... then on who or what standards or rules are we to determine what part of the bible is literal and what is not?

And of course there is no answer to that question.... hence the countless wars and persecutions over who has it right...

So just once can you give a straight answer to this question:

Do you belong to a recognised particular religion?

As in are you a Jew, a Catholic, do you follow Mithra or do you just have a hybrid mixture of your own ideas?
Flygerian

Chickasha, OK

#225 Jun 25, 2013
JJJ wrote:
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To be truthful Fly..... you have not been precise about what or who you believe in at all....not once
State you dogma clearly...... state where you got it from, ie self or a book like the bible or perhaps several sources...
If I choose not to than that is what it is. If you go to other threads I participate in I state what I believe in clearly and I have with you. I dont want to at the moment so I do not. But if you enter into those other threads you will see it clearly.
JJJ wrote:
Because having a discussion with you within the parameters that you use now is pretty much like fencing or boxing blind folded....
As an example.... you keep asking me why I connect human sacrifice and god (at least the biblical god)....
Now I've told you because of the ransom doctrine...okay if you are not a christian but believe in the OT god... then we have the incidence of god asking Abraham....then you say that did not happen...or that I have not read the bible
Yes if you say that the God of Abraham demanded human sacrifice to atone for sins then you are incorrect and have not read the bible.
JJJ wrote:
But what are you referring to.... that the OT god did NOT ask Abraham to commit human sacrifice.... or are you saying that he did but it is just a story a parable not to be taken literally...or that you don't believe in the bible OT or NT at all?
And if the latter is the case... then on who or what standards or rules are we to determine what part of the bible is literal and what is not?
What does this have to do with the thread? Nothing at all. You'll just leave after awhile without addressing the points I make. We went over this in that other thread so why are you bringing it up again?
JJJ wrote:
And of course there is no answer to that question.... hence the countless wars and persecutions over who has it right...
So just once can you give a straight answer to this question:
Ahh the blame religion rhetoric while ignoring those in charge that OBVIOUSLY have no religion and are perpetuating wars off false bases such as the "war on terrorism" or "weapons of mass destruction". And thats just America. Theres people in Africa doing similar things and elsewhere. But yea its all because of religion lol. Stop with bias
JJJ wrote:
Do you belong to a recognised particular religion?
As in are you a Jew, a Catholic, do you follow Mithra or do you just have a hybrid mixture of your own ideas?
No I do not belong to a religion. Thats as far as I'll answer your question. If you wish to know more, follow my posts and in due time in some thread I will probably say something about what I believe. Or you can go to past threads where I have spoken with you or others and make your own conclusion. I choose not to say in this thread so that YOU and/or other atheists can bring the proof or finally admit that you do not have proof. That you just BELIEVE He doesnt exist.
Prophet of Jesus Christ

San Antonio, TX

#226 Jun 25, 2013
Flygerian wrote:
So which one?
You are a retarded idiot from Nigeria.

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