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#237 Jun 20, 2013
As for Peter being the first Pope, the sincere Bible student should note the following facts:

1. The word "Pope" is never mentioned once in God's word.

2. Peter was married (Mat. 8:14; I Cor. 9:5), while the Popes are not.

3. Peter refused to allow others to bow down to him (Acts 10:25-26), but the Popes allow such practices.

4. Peter didn't think very highly of tradition (I Pet. 1:18), yet tradition is a major authority in the Catholic Church.

5. Peter believed in waiting for the "crown of glory" (I Pet. 5:4), while all Popes believe in wearing a crown now.

6. If Peter was the Pope in Rome, as the Catholics teach, then why did Paul not mention him in his letter to the Romans? In Romans chapter 16, Paul gives the names of over twenty church members, yet he fails to mention Peter. How could this have happened if Peter was the Pope in Rome?

7. If Peter was the head of the church, why did Paul have to set him straight on doctrine in Galatians 2:11?

8. If Peter was the Pope, then why didn't he say so in his epistles? He simply labeled himself "an apostle of Jesus Christ" (I Pet. 1:1) and nothing more.

9. Paul wrote 100 chapters with 2,325 verses, while Peter wrote only 8 chapters with 166 verses. Why would "the Pope" write less?

10. Paul spoke of Peter, James, and John (not just Peter) being pillars in the church (Gal. 2:9). Peter is never magnified above the other Apostles.

11. Don't forget that it was Peter who denied the Lord Jesus Christ three times in one night (Mat. 26:69-75). Does this sound like something that would be done by the head of the church?

12. The Catholics believe that Peter was the first Pope in Rome, but the New Testament never speaks of Peter being anywhere near Rome.

The Bible never even hints of Peter being a Pope. This whole doctrine is Catholic tradition, having been concocted for the purpose of lording over the common people of the church. It lacks any Scriptural support.

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#238 Jun 20, 2013
The Authority of the Written Word

The Roman Catholic Church has given tradition much weight when establishing and practicing her beliefs, yet the Bible clearly warns against this. In Matthew 15:3, the Lord Jesus Christ says, "Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?" Paul says, in Colossians 2:8, "Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ." Catholic writings are filled with phrases like "the Church teaches" or "tradition teaches" or "the Church has traditionally taught". In light of the above Scripture, shouldn't true Christian writings be filled with phrases like "the Bible says" or "according to the Scriptures"?

Friend, are you following God's pure words or are you following man's tradition? Perhaps you're thinking, "This is anti-Catholic hate literature!" No, actually, this tract is based on God’s word. If you doubt it, please check the references for yourself. What have you got to lose?

Even when Rome professes to believe the Bible, we must remember that the Catholic bible is very different from the written word of God. The Catholic Church includes several books in their Old Testament that are not God's word. The Catholic Council of Trent of 1541 placed a curse upon everyone who does not accept the Apocrypha as inspired Old Testament Scripture (See Catholic Encyclopedia). In doing so, the famous council pronounced a curse upon Jesus Christ and the New Testament writers!

In Matthew 23:35, Jesus said that the Old Testament began with Abel (The Book of Genesis) and ended with Zecharias (II Chronicles). Since the Hebrew Old Testament ends with II Chronicles, there is no room left for the Apocryphal books. This explains why the Lord Jesus and the New Testament writers never refer to the Apocrypha or quote it. These writings were not accepted as Scripture. So Jesus, Peter, James, Paul, John, Luke, and the rest are officially cursed by the Roman Catholic Church.

Lest someone claim that this is no longer a Catholic belief, we refer the reader to page 61 of the Catholic publication, Faith of Our Fathers, by Cardinal Gibbons:

If only one instance could be given in which the Church ceased to teach a doctrine which had been previously held, that single instance would be the death blow of her infallibility.

So there is no absolute Final Authority in the Catholic Church. There are dual authorities: tradition and the Catholic bible, which is entirely unscriptural (Isa. 8:20, Mat. 4:4, Col. 2:8, Mat. 15:3). God's word alone should be the Final Authority of any Christian institution.

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#239 Jun 20, 2013

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#240 Jun 20, 2013
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#242 Jun 20, 2013
The Papacy and Priesthood

In the Bible there are no popes or priests to rule over the church. Jesus Christ is our High Priest (Heb. 3:1; 4:14-15; 5:5; 8:1; 9:11), and all true Christians make up a spiritual priesthood (I Pet. 2:5). Jesus Christ has sanctified all Christians who believe on Him (Heb. 10:10-11), so all priests today are unnecessary and unscriptural. Furthermore, the practice of calling a priest “father” is forbidden by Jesus Christ in Matthew 23:9. There is only ONE mediator between God and men (I Tim. 2:5).

The Catholic church teaches that Peter was the first Pope and the earthly head of the church, but the Bible never says this once. In fact, it was Peter himself who spoke against “being lords over God’s heritage” in I Peter 5:3. Popes do not marry, although Peter did (Mat. 8:14; I Cor. 9:5). The Bible never speaks of Peter being in Rome, and it was Paul, not Peter, who wrote the epistle to the Romans. In the New Testament, Paul wrote 100 chapters with 2,325 verses, while Peter wrote only 8 chapters with 166 verses. In Peter’s first epistle he stated that he was simply “an apostle of Jesus Christ,” not a Pope (I Pet. 1:1). The Roman papacy and priesthood is just a huge fraud to keep members in bondage to a corrupt pagan church.

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#243 Jun 20, 2013
The Worship of Mary

Roman Catholics believe that Mary, the mother of Jesus, remained a virgin after the birth of Jesus and was sinless all of her life. She is worshiped in the Catholic church as the "Mother of God" and the "Queen of Heaven." St. Bernard stated that she was crowned "Queen of Heaven" by God the Father, and that she currently sits upon a throne in Heaven making intercession for Christians.

The Bible teaches otherwise. In the Bible, Mary was a sinner just like the rest of us. She said herself that she needed a "Saviour" (Lk. 1:47), and she even had to offer a sacrifice for her sins in Luke 2:24. Jesus was only her "firstborn" son, according to Matthew 1:25, because she later had other children as well (Mt. 13:55; Gal. 1:19; Psa. 69:8). There's only ONE mediator between God and men, and it isn't Mary (I Tim. 2:5). The last time we hear from Mary in the Bible she is praying WITH the disciples, not being prayed to BY the disciples (Acts 1:14). The Bible never exalts Mary above anyone else. Neither should we.

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#244 Jun 20, 2013
Purgatory

The Catholic Church teaches that a Christian’s soul must burn in purgatory after death until all of their sins have been purged. To speed up the purging process, money may be paid to a priest so he can pray and have special masses for an earlier release.

This heresy began creeping into the Roman Church during the reign of Pope Gregory around the end of the sixth century, and it has no scriptural support. In fact, Jesus warned us about this pagan practice in Matthew 23:14 when He spoke of those who devoured widows houses and made long prayers for a pretence. Psalm 49:6-7 tells us that a person couldn't redeem a loved one, even if such a place did exist: "They that trust in their wealth, and boast themselves in the multitude of their riches; None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him:"

Peter addresses this issue in Acts 8:20 when he says, "Thy money perish with thee, because thou hast thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money." God's word is clearly against the doctrine of purgatory.

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#245 Jun 20, 2013
The Mass

By perverting the Christian practice of the Lord's Supper (Mat. 26:26-28; I Cor. 11:23-27), the Catholic Church has created the Mass, which they believe to be a continual sacrifice of Jesus Christ:

"Christ...commanded that his bloody sacrifice on the Cross should be daily renewed by an unbloody sacrifice of his body and blood in the Mass under the simple elements of bread and wine." (The Catholic Encyclopedia, Vol. 10, Pg. 13, Article: "Mass, Sacrifice of")

Jesus never made such a command. If you'll check the above references in Matthew 26 and I Corinthians 11, you'll see for yourself that the Lord's Supper is a MEMORIAL and a SHOWING of Christ's death until He comes again. It is not a sacrifice. The Catholic Encyclopedia states the following:

"In the celebration of the Holy Mass, the bread and wine are changed into the body and blood of Christ. It is called transubstantiation, for in the Sacrament of the Eucharist the substance of bread and wine do not remain, but the entire substance of bread is changed into the body of Christ, and the entire substance of wine is changed into his blood, the species or outward semblence of bread and wine alone remaining." (Vol. 4, pg. 277, Article: "Consecration")

The Catholic Church teaches that the "Holy Mass" is a LITERAL EATING AND DRINKING OF THE LITERAL FLESH AND BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST. The priest supposedly has the power to change the bread and wine into the body and blood of Christ.

Now, what does God's word say about such practices? If you'll read Genesis 9:4, Leviticus 17:11-12, and Acts 15:29, you will find that God absolutely FORBIDS the drinking of blood all through the Bible.

Rome teaches that the Mass is a continual "sacrifice" of Jesus Christ, but God's word states that Jesus made the FINAL sacrifice on Calvary! This is made perfectly clear in Hebrews 10:10-12:

"By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God."

The mass is unnecessary and unscriptural.

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#246 Jun 20, 2013
Image Worship

The Catholic religion is filled with all sorts of symbols, images, and relics. The Catechism of the Council of Trent states these words:

"It is lawful to have images in the Church, and to give honor and worship unto them..."

It's lawful to honor and worship images? Not according to God's word. Exodus 20:4-5 says, "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me." Image worship is unscriptural and will end with the eternal damnation of those who practice it (Rev. 14:11).

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#247 Jun 20, 2013
Salvation by Works

Through infant baptism, keeping sacraments, church membership, going to mass, praying to Mary, and confession (just to mention a few), the Catholic church has developed a system of salvation through WORKS. God’s word says that we are saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, not through works:

“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.”(Eph. 2:8-9)

“But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.”(Romans 4:5)

Jesus Christ came into this world to lay down His sinless life for YOU--to pay for your sins, because you couldn't. Jesus is your only hope for salvation. Only by receiving Him as your Saviour can you enter the gates of Heaven. There is no other way.

"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father but by me." (John 14:6)

The Lord Jesus Christ has come and PAID for your sins by shedding His own Blood on Calvary. By receiving Him as your Saviour, you can be WASHED from all your sins in His precious Blood (Rev. 1:5; Col. 1:14; Acts 20:28; I Pet. 1:18-19). Notice these important words from Romans 5:8-9:

"But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him."

Jesus PAID your way to Heaven for you! By receiving Him as your Saviour, you will be receiving God's ONLY means of Salvation for you. Are you willing to forsake YOUR righteousness and receive Jesus Christ as your Saviour, your ONLY HOPE for Salvation? Romans 10:13 says, "Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." Romans 10:9 says, "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved." Are you willing to forsake your own righteousness, and trust Jesus Christ alone? He will save you just as He promised. Why not receive Him today and trust Him to give you a better way of life?

http://biblebaptistpublications.org/romancath...

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#248 Jun 20, 2013
See Nettie, I can copy/paste too.

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#249 Jun 20, 2013
Question: "What is Roman Catholicism?"

Answer: The Roman Catholic Church portrays itself as the one legitimate heir to New Testament Christianity, and the Pope as the successor to Peter, the first bishop of Rome. While those details are debatable, there is no question that Roman church history reaches back to ancient times. The apostle Paul wrote his letter to the Romans about AD 55, and addressed a church body that existed prior to his first visit there (but he made no mention of Peter, though he greeted others by name). Despite repeated persecutions by the government, a vibrant Christian community existed in Rome after apostolic times. Those early Roman Christians were just like their brethren in other parts of the world—simple followers of Jesus Christ.

Things changed drastically when the Roman Emperor Constantine professed a conversion to Christianity in AD 312. He began to make changes which ultimately led to the formation of the Roman Catholic Church. He issued the Edict of Milan in 313, which granted freedom of worship throughout the empire. When doctrinal disputes arose, Constantine presided over the first ecumenical church council at Nicaea in AD 325, even though he held no official authority in the churches. By the time of his death, Christianity was the favored, if not the official, religion of the Roman Empire. The term “Roman Catholic” was defined by Emperor Theodosius on February 27, 380 in the Theodosian Code. In that document, he referred to those who hold to the “religion which was delivered to the Romans by the divine Apostle Peter” as “Roman Catholic Christians,” and gave them the official sanction of the empire.

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#250 Jun 20, 2013
The fall of the Roman Empire and the rise of the Catholic Church are really two branches of the same story, as the power was transferred from one entity to the other. From the time of Constantine (AD 312) until the fall of the Roman Empire in 476, the emperors of Rome claimed a certain amount of authority within the church, even though it was disputed by many church leaders. During those formative years, there were many disputes over authority, structure, and doctrine. The emperors sought to increase their authority by granting privileges to various bishops, resulting in disputes about primacy within the churches. At the same time, some of the bishops sought to increase their authority and prestige by accusing others of false doctrine and seeking state support of their positions. Many of those disputes resulted in very sinful behavior, which are a disgrace to the name of Christ.

Just like today, some of those who lived in the leading cities tended to exalt themselves above their contemporaries in the rural areas. The third century saw the rise of an ecclesiastical hierarchy patterned after the Roman government. The bishop of a city was over the presbyters, or priests, of the local congregations, controlling the ministry of the churches, and the Bishop of Rome began to establish himself as supreme over all. Though some historians tell these details as the history of “the church,” there were many church leaders in those days which neither stooped to those levels nor acknowledged any ecclesiastical hierarchy. The vast majority of churches in the first four centuries derived their authority and doctrine from the Bible, and traced their lineage directly back to the apostles, not to the church of Rome. In the New Testament, the terms “elder,”“pastor,” and “bishop” are used interchangeably for the spiritual leaders of any church (see 1 Peter 5:1-3 where the Greek root words are translated “elders,”“feed,” and “oversight”). By the time Gregory became pope in AD 590, the empire was in a shambles, and he assumed imperial powers along with his ecclesiastical authority. From that time on, the church and state were fully intertwined as the Holy Roman Empire, with the pope exercising authority over kings and emperors.

What are the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church that distinguish it from other Christian churches? Whole books have been written on this subject, but a sampling of the doctrines will be outlined here.

Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/Roman-Catholicism...

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#251 Jun 20, 2013
I see post 235 and 241 didn't go through. Strange.

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#252 Jun 20, 2013
While I definitely do not hate Roman Catholics, there are several doctrines of the Roman Catholic Church that I do, in fact, hate:

(1) The “we were here first” argument. Roman Catholicism claims that it is the church that was established by the Apostles, and that, as a result, it is the one true church. When I read the New Testament, however, the church I see is most definitely not the Roman Catholic Church. In the New Testament church, there is no pope, no cardinals, and no priests. There is no infant baptism, apostolic succession, worship of Mary, or prayer to saints. In the New Testament, the Lord’s Supper is a remembrance of Jesus’ once for all sacrifice, not a continual re-presentation of that sacrifice. The “we were here first” argument does not match the New Testament evidence and does not have validity except on school playgrounds.

(2) The “we gave you the Bible” argument. Roman Catholicism claims that it decided what books belong in the Bible, and therefore, has authority over the teachings of the Bible. If that were the case, they did a very poor job of selecting books which support their doctrine. If that were the case, Roman Catholicism has provided its opposition with a book by which most Roman Catholic doctrines can be soundly refuted. But, it is not the case. God gave us the Bible (2 Timothy 3:16-17). Yes, God used the early church to canonize the Bible, but God was completely sovereign over the entire process. Yes, the early church councils that canonized the Bible may have been quasi-Catholic in some areas, but they absolutely were not Roman Catholic in the modern sense. No, Roman Catholicism did not give us the Bible. God gave us the Bible.

(3) The “30,000 Protestant denominations” argument. Roman Catholics argue against the Protestant concept of “sola scriptura”(the Bible alone) by pointing to the supposed results of sola scriptura, which is, in their minds, a terribly divided body of Christ in the form of 30,000+ Protestant denominations. The problem with this argument is that it incorrectly blames sola scriptura for the divisions within Protestantism. Sola scriptura is not the problem. The misapplication of sola scriptura is the problem. We all allow, to varying degrees, our traditions, preferences, and preconceptions to impact our theology. We all interpret biblical passages inconsistently due to our inherent biases. We are all fallen and imperfect human beings. Therefore, we will always be prone to mistakes in understanding God’s Word. But, sola scriptura is not the problem. Not fully applying sola scriptura is the problem.

Further, one thing all 30,000 Protestant denominations agree on is the fact that the Roman Catholic Church is very wrong on numerous very important issues. The disagreements Protestant churches have between each other are miniscule in comparison to the disagreements between Protestantism and Roman Catholicism. Even within the Roman Catholic Church, there are many Catholics who do not agree with various doctrines of their own church. Due to culture, tradition, and belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the one true church, though, they choose to remain in the Catholic Church rather than dividing and starting new churches.

There is much more I could say, but for now, I think I have made my point. GotQuestions.org does not hate Roman Catholics. What we hate is the false doctrines, false practices, and invalid arguments the Roman Catholic Church teaches. I entirely understand that when the church you love is attacked, it is painful, and can sound hateful. But, Roman Catholics, please understand that our expressions of strong disagreement are a result of a love for God’s Word, and love for the one true church, which is every person who receives Jesus Christ as Savior, by grace through faith.

http://www.blogos.org/gotquestions/roman-cath...

John from Texas

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#253 Jun 20, 2013
Romans Road wrote:
While I definitely do not hate Roman Catholics, there are several doctrines of the Roman Catholic Church that I do, in fact, hate:
, it is painful, and can sound hateful. But, Roman Catholics, please understand that our expressions of strong disagreement are a result of a love for God’s Word, and love for the one true church, which is every person who receives Jesus Christ as Savior, by grace through faith.
http://www.blogos.org/gotquestions/roman-cath...
Screw You! You are illiterate and and your ignorance condemns you. Blindly following anything is a sin against the shed blood of Jesus Christ.
How's that, Goober?

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#255 Jun 20, 2013
John from Texas wrote:
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Screw You! You are illiterate and and your ignorance condemns you. Blindly following anything is a sin against the shed blood of Jesus Christ.
How's that, Goober?
What am I blindly following?

1 Corinthians 1:18- For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

2 Timothy 1:12- For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that He is able to keep that which I have committed unto Him against that day.

Romans 1:16- For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

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How To Be Saved According to the Word of God
http://www.soulwinning.info/tracts/how_to_be_...

John from Texas

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#256 Jun 20, 2013
JesusMyLord wrote:
<quoted text>Your anger and hatred for God have blinded you. Please open your eyes, you hide from the truth.
I have no anger or hatred for God. Why would I hate that which gives me life? That which gives life to all.

John from Texas

“It's all in your head”

Since: Dec 12

Lockhart, TX

#257 Jun 20, 2013
Romans Road wrote:
<quoted text>
What am I blindly following?
1 Corinthians 1:18- For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
2 Timothy 1:12- For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that He is able to keep that which I have committed unto Him against that day.
Romans 1:16- For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
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How To Be Saved According to the Word of God
http://www.soulwinning.info/tracts/how_to_be_...
You are deaf and blind to the Spirit that keeps banging on your soul. You are a slave to the bible and can't see what lives beyond the "book". The "book" is actually OK but you refuse to use your brain to extract the message from it that is uniquely suited for you. You let other people decide what it means to you. Now that is blasphemous. You are expected to use your God given brain to guide your spiritual path, yet you depend on others to dictate that journey for you. That is being a coward because you are too scared to trust yourself on spiritual matters. You condemn me and others that have given the purpose of life much thought and have conversed with God 24/7 in order to find our purpose, in this life and on this Earth.

How dare you condemn me! And others that your brainwashing causes you to grossly and disgustingly misunderstand.

Your links can't tell me how to be saved. That knowledge comes from within and you posting a link to the instruction about how to be saved just proves my point.

Think for yourself once in awhile. It works pretty well.

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Chicago, IL

#258 Jun 20, 2013
Laci Ann 7 wrote:
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I have seen nothing but honesty for m Romans. Your post is very offensive Janee and very cruel. Romans has done nothing but shared the gospel, the true Word of God not the watered down version that you no doubt like.
I am not embarrassed at the way Romans has posted concerning God, in fact I agree 100%.........those embarrassed will have to deal with it. Why is it Janee you can't post the name Christian??
Laci: " Your post is very offensive Janee and very cruel."

Oh? You would've preferred a "watered-down version" of the truth; a sugar-coated description of Roman's conduct rather than a factually accurate account?
I don't deny that the two purely subjective sentiments I expressed were offensive, namely: "you sanctimonious blow-hard", and "you're an insufferable holier-than-thou ASS."
However,I NEVER say anything INTENDING to be cruel.To anyone. Ever.

Laci: "I am not embarrassed at the way Romans has posted concerning God,..."

I'm not talking about Roman's posts concerning God - I'm addressing ONLY his posts that don't.
And what I originally said was, that ROMANS HIMSELF is an embarrassment to true Christians-in-practice, NOT his posts about God.

Laci: "Why is it Janee you can't post the name Christian??

I haven't a clue as to what it is you're accusing me of, but I did say "Christian" 3 times in the comment you're posting this reply to, if that's by chance relevant.(?)

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