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“God Loves Ilks!”

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#258 Apr 12, 2013
His-truth wrote:
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Not by their will .. by ours .. and a lot of blood
also:..... the RCC STILL discourages reading and studying the scripture .. they can't pull-off today what they TRIED to pull-off during the DARK AGES ...... "Oh no no no ... you can't understand the scripture by yourself .. you need US to do that for you" ... PS: Nettie ... you no longer need a priest ... the human priesthood was done-away-with when the veil was rent in two from top to the bottom ... Jesus is now your priest ... http://bobgeorge.net/teaching/hebrews/ ... learn and live
No, it doesn't.
I happen to have a Catholic Bible AND a KJV Bible also. lol
My, how you lie!
And, scripture FROM the Bible is read daily during Mass.

The Bible itself says that the Church is the authority; no where in the Bible is there scripture saying that the Bible is the authority; the Bible is a Catholic document!

Who better to have the authority to interpret scripture than the Church whose first members (Catholics) wrote it!

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#259 Apr 12, 2013
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ .. just as He chose us IN HIM before the foundation of the world that we should be holy and blameless before Him .. in love HE predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself according to the kind intention of HIS WILL .. to the praise of the glory of His grace which He freely bestowed on us in the beloved ... IN HIM we have redemption through His blood .. the forgiveness of our trespasses according to the riches of His grace which HE lavished upon us ... In all wisdom and insight ... HE made known to us the mystery of His will according to His kind intention which HE purposed IN HIM with a view to an administration suitable to the fullness of the times .. that is the summing up of all things IN CHRIST .. things in the heavens and things upon the earth. IN HIM also we have obtained an inheritance .. having been predestined according to HIS purpose who works all things after the counsel of HIS WILL to the end that we who were the first to hope in Christ should be to the praise of His glory ... IN HIM you also after listening to the message of truth .. the gospel of your salvation .. having also believed you were sealed IN HIM with the Holy Spirit of promise who is given as a pledge of our inheritance with a view to the redemption of God's own possession to the praise of His glory .. http://www.gty.org/Resources/Sermons/80-46_Th... .. continue

.......... yall have a blessed weekend

Since: Jan 10

Charleston, WV

#260 Apr 12, 2013
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>No, it doesn't.
I happen to have a Catholic Bible AND a KJV Bible also. lol
My, how you lie!
And, scripture FROM the Bible is read daily during Mass.
The Bible itself says that the Church is the authority; no where in the Bible is there scripture saying that the Bible is the authority; the Bible is a Catholic document!
Who better to have the authority to interpret scripture than the Church whose first members (Catholics) wrote it!
The same church "authority" that brought us conquistadors, inquisition and denial of science.

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#261 Apr 12, 2013
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>Everyone is completely free to believe as they wish, Laci.
And, in practicing one's FREEDOM of religion, why would I condemn, rebuke anyone?
I support them!
I support their RIGHT to believe as they choose.
I would NEVER force my religious beliefs onto them.
I HAVE no right to do so!
I know you do......they can say anything about God and His Son Jesus and you remain quieter then a church mouse.

Now let me ask you something would you allow anyone to speak so hateful and cruel to your children??

Would you.....remain silent while they were being bashed??

I would imagine you would not. In fact you stand toe, to toe, with anyone who tells your fellow Christ bashers that they are sinning!

Why because you care(deceiving) about them, right?

Still you remain dead silent when it comes to God's name abused and blasphemed.....Why? Because your loyalty is not with God! Do the Catholic ppl a favor and stop calling yourself a Catholic!

So here we have it.......

Nettie is loyal to others and will defend them until the last key falls from the key board.

God and His Precious Son......are on their own where Nettie is concerned. Shameful it is......

Since: Jan 10

Charleston, WV

#262 Apr 12, 2013
Laci Ann 7 wrote:
<quoted text> I know you do......they can say anything about God and His Son Jesus and you remain quieter then a church mouse.
Now let me ask you something would you allow anyone to speak so hateful and cruel to your children??
Would you.....remain silent while they were being bashed??
I would imagine you would not. In fact you stand toe, to toe, with anyone who tells your fellow Christ bashers that they are sinning!
Why because you care(deceiving) about them, right?
Still you remain dead silent when it comes to God's name abused and blasphemed.....Why? Because your loyalty is not with God! Do the Catholic ppl a favor and stop calling yourself a Catholic!
So here we have it.......
Nettie is loyal to others and will defend them until the last key falls from the key board.
God and His Precious Son......are on their own where Nettie is concerned. Shameful it is......
Isn't judgement for god in your fairy tale?

“God Loves Ilks!”

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#263 Apr 12, 2013
Laci Ann 7 wrote:
<quoted text> I know you do......they can say anything about God and His Son Jesus and you remain quieter then a church mouse.
Now let me ask you something would you allow anyone to speak so hateful and cruel to your children??
Would you.....remain silent while they were being bashed??
I would imagine you would not. In fact you stand toe, to toe, with anyone who tells your fellow Christ bashers that they are sinning!
Why because you care(deceiving) about them, right?
Still you remain dead silent when it comes to God's name abused and blasphemed.....Why? Because your loyalty is not with God! Do the Catholic ppl a favor and stop calling yourself a Catholic!
So here we have it.......
Nettie is loyal to others and will defend them until the last key falls from the key board.
God and His Precious Son......are on their own where Nettie is concerned. Shameful it is......
Why would I bash another for exercising their right to free speech and freedom of religion?

I do not fully agree with you as to what you consider sin anyway, and I surely do not agree with you when you condemn others to hell. That is not your authority to do so.
Your judgments are biased on the limited things you choose to believe in, Laci.

I support all the rights that others share WITH you.
You, however, do not.

“God Loves Ilks!”

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#265 Apr 12, 2013
naturalwonder wrote:
<quoted text>The same church "authority" that brought us conquistadors, inquisition and denial of science.
even so, the Catholic Church has far and away the finest humanitarian record and history of tolerance, compared to any other institution in world history. Everyone knows our sins and flaws, but we hear little about the overwhelming number of good things we have done and produced: stuff like hospitals, universities, science, the finest art and architecture, Pope Pius XII's saving of over 850,000 Jews in WWII.

“God Loves Ilks!”

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#266 Apr 12, 2013
Laci Ann 7 wrote:
<quoted text> I know you do......they can say anything about God and His Son Jesus and you remain quieter then a church mouse.
Now let me ask you something would you allow anyone to speak so hateful and cruel to your children??
Would you.....remain silent while they were being bashed??
I would imagine you would not. In fact you stand toe, to toe, with anyone who tells your fellow Christ bashers that they are sinning!
Why because you care(deceiving) about them, right?
Still you remain dead silent when it comes to God's name abused and blasphemed.....Why? Because your loyalty is not with God! Do the Catholic ppl a favor and stop calling yourself a Catholic!
So here we have it.......
Nettie is loyal to others and will defend them until the last key falls from the key board.
God and His Precious Son......are on their own where Nettie is concerned. Shameful it is......
Seems like Laci has her own Inquisition going on.

“the end-times is now”

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#267 Apr 12, 2013
Nettiebelle = The Bible does not call the Catholic Church the harlot ...[no .. the Bible DESCRIBES the Harlot (Rev 17)].. This notion has been debunked numerous times by folks who actually know the Bible ...[then Nettie: YOU explain Rev 17]... You are the typical fundie full of hate and fear .. Blah Blah Blah

======== full context .. http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/christian...

Everyone is completely free to believe as they wish ...[no one is argueing with that]
And, in practicing one's FREEDOM of religion, why would I condemn, rebuke anyone?... Oh, I see:.. Nettie is one of those "all-things-to-all-people " christians .. we Real Christians condemn no-one .. not our job .. however ... he that believes not is condemned already .. John 3 as I'm sure you well know

I support them ..[and their doctrine ??]... I support their RIGHT to believe as they choose [as do I]... I would NEVER force my religious beliefs onto them [nor would I]
I HAVE no right to do so ...[no .. you do not]

Since: Jan 10

Charleston, WV

#269 Apr 12, 2013
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>even so, the Catholic Church has far and away the finest humanitarian record and history of tolerance, compared to any other institution in world history. Everyone knows our sins and flaws, but we hear little about the overwhelming number of good things we have done and produced: stuff like hospitals, universities, science, the finest art and architecture, Pope Pius XII's saving of over 850,000 Jews in WWII.
I must admit your universities are not bible colleges, they are fine institutions. However whether the pope saved Jews or collaborated with the Nazis is a matter of debate.

“God Loves Ilks!”

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#270 Apr 12, 2013
His-truth wrote:
Nettiebelle = The Bible does not call the Catholic Church the harlot ...[no .. the Bible DESCRIBES the Harlot (Rev 17)].. This notion has been debunked numerous times by folks who actually know the Bible ...[then Nettie: YOU explain Rev 17]... You are the typical fundie full of hate and fear .. Blah Blah Blah
======== full context .. http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/christian...
Everyone is completely free to believe as they wish ...[no one is argueing with that]
And, in practicing one's FREEDOM of religion, why would I condemn, rebuke anyone?... Oh, I see:.. Nettie is one of those "all-things-to-all-people " christians .. we Real Christians condemn no-one .. not our job .. however ... he that believes not is condemned already .. John 3 as I'm sure you well know
I support them ..[and their doctrine ??]... I support their RIGHT to believe as they choose [as do I]... I would NEVER force my religious beliefs onto them [nor would I]
I HAVE no right to do so ...[no .. you do not]
My, you are an excellent liar.
Must come from a lot of practice!

In order to reject the Gospel, one must first fully understand it and accept it........right?
Might well be folks like you who give out garbled talk which just ends up turning other folks OFF to the Gospel as one of the reasons they reject it!
Yep, the fault lies with the poor excuse of the explanation/sharing of the Gospel that some folks conjure up which turns others away from otherwise at least listening to it.
Then too, there is invincible ignorance, which means that, no matter which way the Gospel is presented, one just doesn't 'get it' at all.
Is it that person's fault?
God can see their soul and intentions, not you.
Perhaps some of these folks are on a lifelong journey seeking the Truth. Don't you think this 'seeking' is worthwhile? Do you think God will acknowledge this effort? Wouldn't God KNOW that, if the Gospel were presented to this person in such a way that they fully understood, therefore could grasp and accept it, that they WOULD?

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#271 Apr 12, 2013
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>Why would I bash another for exercising their right to free speech and freedom of religion?
I do not fully agree with you as to what you consider sin anyway, and I surely do not agree with you when you condemn others to hell. That is not your authority to do so.
Your judgments are biased on the limited things you choose to believe in, Laci.
I support all the rights that others share WITH you.
You, however, do not.
You did not answer me......would you remain silent if the same ppl were bashing your children? This makes about the third time I have asked you this.

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#272 Apr 12, 2013
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>Seems like Laci has her own Inquisition going on.
Answer the question....even if you have to copy and paste it. You're not a loss for words any other time.

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#273 Apr 12, 2013
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>Why would I bash another for exercising their right to free speech and freedom of religion?
I do not fully agree with you as to what you consider sin anyway, and I surely do not agree with you when you condemn others to hell. That is not your authority to do so.
Your judgments are biased on the limited things you choose to believe in, Laci.
I support all the rights that others share WITH you.
You, however, do not.
If you really love God you would be greatly offended at the horrible things said about Him.

You are complacent and very comfortable with His name abused.

Tells me all I need to know about you and anyone who would agree with you.....

Just telling it like it is.......

“God Loves Ilks!”

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#274 Apr 12, 2013
Laci Ann 7 wrote:
<quoted text>You did not answer me......would you remain silent if the same ppl were bashing your children? This makes about the third time I have asked you this.
Laci, your question was so dumb, it doesn't deserve an answer.
Your question has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion going on here.
As for my children, who are as old as YOU are, they can pretty much defend themselves, as can my grown grandchildren.
No one would be ABLE to hear me for the ringing of their voices in your ears.
Got it now?

“God Loves Ilks!”

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#275 Apr 12, 2013
Laci Ann 7 wrote:
<quoted text>If you really love God you would be greatly offended at the horrible things said about Him.
You are complacent and very comfortable with His name abused.
Tells me all I need to know about you and anyone who would agree with you.....
Just telling it like it is.......
Nope.
That is just you and your opinion.
Your faith does not rule over the rights/opinions/voices of others who do not agree with it.
Each person has the same right to voice their own beliefs/opinions.
You seem to have great difficulty with anyone who disagrees with you, to the point of condemning them to hell.
It is not the beliefs/opinions of others that influences what I believe, Laci.
And, the same should be for you.
If you consistently react this way to anyone who disagrees with you, then it it YOU who has weak faith.
And, being firm/solid in your faith doesn't mean you shove it onto others or use it to judge them either, Laci.
My goodness, you're a mess.

“God Loves Ilks!”

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#276 Apr 12, 2013
Laci Ann 7 wrote:
<quoted text>Answer the question....even if you have to copy and paste it. You're not a loss for words any other time.
I have two daughters. The three of us, those two and myself, each have slightly differing opinions/beliefs, and we are all comfortable with that.
One of my daughters recently did something fantastic to follow up a dream she always had and never thought she could/would be able to do.
Many disagreed with her and her faith and her reasons for doing this.
Her answer:
'It doesn't bother me at all. It doesn't matter what others believe; I know what I believe and I believe in what I am doing. One time, others opinions would have affected me. Not now. I firmly believe in what I am doing and what I am searching for I believe to be there, to be a fact. And, this is good enough for me, so, yes, I will go again, I will try again and again."

So, I might be exposing who I really am by posting this; I don't care.
I support FULLY my daughter's attempt to finally be able to follow her dream and make it a reality.
And, yeah, Laci, she is a fundie. lol

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#277 Apr 12, 2013
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>Laci, your question was so dumb, it doesn't deserve an answer.
Your question has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion going on here.
As for my children, who are as old as YOU are, they can pretty much defend themselves, as can my grown grandchildren.
No one would be ABLE to hear me for the ringing of their voices in your ears.
Got it now?
It was not dumb at all......the reason you won't answer is that you know you are caught.

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#278 Apr 12, 2013
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>I have two daughters. The three of us, those two and myself, each have slightly differing opinions/beliefs, and we are all comfortable with that.
One of my daughters recently did something fantastic to follow up a dream she always had and never thought she could/would be able to do.
Many disagreed with her and her faith and her reasons for doing this.
Her answer:
'It doesn't bother me at all. It doesn't matter what others believe; I know what I believe and I believe in what I am doing. One time, others opinions would have affected me. Not now. I firmly believe in what I am doing and what I am searching for I believe to be there, to be a fact. And, this is good enough for me, so, yes, I will go again, I will try again and again."
So, I might be exposing who I really am by posting this; I don't care.
I support FULLY my daughter's attempt to finally be able to follow her dream and make it a reality.
And, yeah, Laci, she is a fundie. lol
She sounds like she might have it together Nettie.

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#279 Apr 12, 2013
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope.
That is just you and your opinion.
Your faith does not rule over the rights/opinions/voices of others who do not agree with it.
Each person has the same right to voice their own beliefs/opinions.
You seem to have great difficulty with anyone who disagrees with you, to the point of condemning them to hell.
It is not the beliefs/opinions of others that influences what I believe, Laci.
And, the same should be for you.
If you consistently react this way to anyone who disagrees with you, then it it YOU who has weak faith.
And, being firm/solid in your faith doesn't mean you shove it onto others or use it to judge them either, Laci.
My goodness, you're a mess.
A mess? Sometime I am.

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