The " Apostle Paul " Christians

The " Apostle Paul " Christians

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Prophet of Jesus Christ

San Antonio, TX

#1 Mar 11, 2013
THE "APOSTLE PAUL" CHRISTIANS

Believe that the words of Paul are going to help them circumvent the commandments

of Jesus The Christ.

By saving them from their disobedience to the Commandments of Jesus.

These Christians

live

eat

sleep

and breath

every word

and every verse of this man Paul.

He is their savior.

He is their Lord.

He is everything to them because

his writings make it easy for them to get by and makes them believe

and gives them the sense of security

that because Paul did not or could not live up to the commandments of Jesus.

They do not have to either.

They believe they are going to escape the judgment of God

because the writings of Paul is in the bible.

And the bible is their word of God.
anon

Januária, Brazil

#2 Mar 18, 2013
These Christians do not follow Jesus.
anon111

France

#3 Mar 22, 2013
These christians are evil doers.
little lamb

Nudgee, Australia

#4 Mar 22, 2013
1 Peter 3 [15-16]

"Further more consider the patience of our Lord as salvation , just as our brother Paul , according to the wisdom given to him also wrote you

speaking about things as he does also in all his letters .

In them however are some things hard to understand , which the untaught and unsteady are twisting , as they do the rest of the SCRIPTURES."
What

Ava, MO

#5 Mar 22, 2013
Prophet of Jesus Christ wrote:
THE "APOSTLE PAUL" CHRISTIANS
Believe that the words of Paul are going to help them circumvent the commandments
of Jesus The Christ.
By saving them from their disobedience to the Commandments of Jesus.
These Christians
live
eat
sleep
and breath
every word
and every verse of this man Paul.
He is their savior.
He is their Lord.
He is everything to them because
his writings make it easy for them to get by and makes them believe
and gives them the sense of security
that because Paul did not or could not live up to the commandments of Jesus.
They do not have to either.
They believe they are going to escape the judgment of God
because the writings of Paul is in the bible.
And the bible is their word of God.
So you pick an choose what is Scripture. LOL!
2Tim 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

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#6 Mar 23, 2013
Prophet of Jesus Christ wrote:
THE "APOSTLE PAUL" CHRISTIANS
Believe that the words of Paul are going to help them circumvent the commandments
of Jesus The Christ.
By saving them from their disobedience to the Commandments of Jesus.
These Christians
live
eat
sleep
and breath
every word
and every verse of this man Paul.
He is their savior.
He is their Lord.
He is everything to them because
his writings make it easy for them to get by and makes them believe
and gives them the sense of security
that because Paul did not or could not live up to the commandments of Jesus.
They do not have to either.
They believe they are going to escape the judgment of God
because the writings of Paul is in the bible.
And the bible is their word of God.
Paul who was taught directly by Jesus called you "ignorant". Now you
know you are ignorant.
TahoeGirl

Orlando, FL

#7 Mar 23, 2013
There are only 12 Apostles in the Bible that are picked by Jesus and Paul's name isn't on the list. One of them (Judas)was found to be a false betrayer and in Acts chapter 1 the remaining 11 Apostles pick Matthias to be the 12th Apostle not Paul. They also state the qualifications to be an Apostle, which is to have been a follower of Christ from the beginning which Paul was not. Jesus also states that there are 12 Apostles to judge the 12 tribes of Israel (Mathew 19:28), so there must be only 12 Apostles to judge 12 tribes not 13. I have never seen anywhere where it is stated that there are 13 Apostles. Jesus also states that in Rev. 2:2 that the Church of Ephesus tried "them who say" they were Apostles and are not but are liars. There is only one person that I know of that says he is an Apostle who is not listed as an Apostle. He says he is an Apostle in his own word (Ephesians 1:1)to the Ephesians. Paul himself knows he is not an Apostle when in 1 Corinthians 9:2 he states that people know he is not an Apostle, those are his words not mine. He also says who his accomplice is in 9:6 as the "them who say" in Rev.2:2 that Jesus said where liars. Paul also knows people think he is a liar (Romans 9:1 Galatians 1:20 1 Timothy 2:7)when he keeps on saying that "I lie not". We must remember that The book of Revelation was the last book written so if Paul was Jesus real ambassador then why did Jesus put the spot light on Paul this way. Jesus also puts the spot light on Paul when in Revelation 2:14 he goes after the teaching of Baalam, which is also the teaching of Paul, of eating meat that is sacrificed to Idols. 2 times in Revelation Jesus warns against eating meat that is sacrificed to idols (Revelation 2:14,20,)and Paul is the one who says it is ok to eat meat that is sacrificed to idols,(1 Corinthians 8:8, Romans 14:14-22)again this does not bode well for Paul being a true Apostle of Christ, if anything I would say that this should make us think twice about Paul. Do we follow Paul or Jesus????? If you can't give up Paul, you had better ask yourself Why??? There is a very good book that gives a lot more information about Paul, It is called "Jesus words Only" the website is the same, " Jesuswordonly.com " be ready for the truth about Paul.

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#8 Mar 24, 2013
TahoeGirl wrote:
There are only 12 Apostles in the Bible that are picked by Jesus and Paul's name isn't on the list. One of them (Judas)was found to be a false betrayer and in Acts chapter 1 the remaining 11 Apostles pick Matthias to be the 12th Apostle not Paul. They also state the qualifications to be an Apostle, which is to have been a follower of Christ from the beginning which Paul was not. Jesus also states that there are 12 Apostles to judge the 12 tribes of Israel (Mathew 19:28), so there must be only 12 Apostles to judge 12 tribes not 13. I have never seen anywhere where it is stated that there are 13 Apostles. Jesus also states that in Rev. 2:2 that the Church of Ephesus tried "them who say" they were Apostles and are not but are liars. There is only one person that I know of that says he is an Apostle who is not listed as an Apostle. He says he is an Apostle in his own word (Ephesians 1:1)to the Ephesians. Paul himself knows he is not an Apostle when in 1 Corinthians 9:2 he states that people know he is not an Apostle, those are his words not mine. He also says who his accomplice is in 9:6 as the "them who say" in Rev.2:2 that Jesus said where liars. Paul also knows people think he is a liar (Romans 9:1 Galatians 1:20 1 Timothy 2:7)when he keeps on saying that "I lie not". We must remember that The book of Revelation was the last book written so if Paul was Jesus real ambassador then why did Jesus put the spot light on Paul this way. Jesus also puts the spot light on Paul when in Revelation 2:14 he goes after the teaching of Baalam, which is also the teaching of Paul, of eating meat that is sacrificed to Idols. 2 times in Revelation Jesus warns against eating meat that is sacrificed to idols (Revelation 2:14,20,)and Paul is the one who says it is ok to eat meat that is sacrificed to idols,(1 Corinthians 8:8, Romans 14:14-22)again this does not bode well for Paul being a true Apostle of Christ, if anything I would say that this should make us think twice about Paul. Do we follow Paul or Jesus????? If you can't give up Paul, you had better ask yourself Why??? There is a very good book that gives a lot more information about Paul, It is called "Jesus words Only" the website is the same, " Jesuswordonly.com " be ready for the truth about Paul.
You made a very nice post and I did learn something from it, but yet you make a big error when you state that Paul ia not an Apostle: he is, for he was made by Jesus.

Jesus warns us and tells us what Paul is: Please, read the whole Chapter and search the book of Acts for the name 'Saul'- Paul's old name.
ACT 9: 15 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:

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THE CONVERSION OF SAUL TO PAUL THE APOSTLE
ACT 9: 1 And Saul, yet breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, went unto the high priest,
ACT 9: 2 And desired of him letters to Damascus to the synagogues, that if he found any of this way, whether they were men or women, he might bring them bound unto Jerusalem.
ACT 9: 3 And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven:
ACT 9: 4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?

PAUL:
CO1 9: 1 Am I am not an apostle? am I not free? have I not seen Jesus Christ our Lord? are not ye my work in the Lord?
CO1 9: 2 If I be not an apostle unto others, yet doubtless I am to you: for the seal of mine apostleship are ye in the Lord.

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#9 Mar 24, 2013
TahoeGirl wrote:
There are only 12 Apostles in the Bible same, " Jesuswordonly.com " be ready for the truth about Paul.
YOU: in Acts chapter 1 the remaining 11 Apostles pick Matthias to be the 12th Apostle not Paul.
They also state the qualifications to be an Apostle, which is to have been a follower of Christ from the beginning which Paul was not.
AND MATTHIAS WAS NOT.

Nowhere there is written what 'qualification one must obtain to become an apostle'.
Show me where the qualifictions are written.

PAUL DOES NOT LIE OR TEACH HIS OWN WISDOM HERE. Corin 8:
He confirms what Jesus said: you can eat everything as Christians, for nothing can defile a christian! Jesus said!

YOU: CO1 8: 6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
CO1 8: 7 Howbeit there is not in every man that knowledge: for some with conscience of the idol unto this hour eat it as a thing offered unto an idol; and their conscience being weak is defiled.
CO1 8: 8 But meat commendeth us not to God: for neither, if we eat, are we the better; neither, if we eat not, are we the worse.
CO1 8: 9 But take heed lest by any means this liberty of your's become a stumbling block to them that are weak.

TI1 (Timothy) 4: 1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of
devils;
TI1 4: 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
TI1 4: 3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know
the truth.
TI1 4: 4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
TI1 4: 5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

JESUS SAID:
Jesus Says:
"It's not what goes in to a man that defiles a man, but what comes out of a man that defiles a man"
TI1 4: 4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:

Jesus says:
MAT 15: 14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.
MAT 15: 15 Then answered Peter and said unto him, Declare unto us this parable.
MAT 15: 16 And Jesus said, Are ye also yet without understanding?
MAT 15: 17 Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught?
MAT 15: 18 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.
MAT 15: 19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:
MAT 15: 20 These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man.


Jesus' quote recorded a 2nd time:
MAR 7: 16 If any man have ears to hear, let him hear.
MAR 7: 17 And when he was entered into the house from the people, his disciples asked him concerning the parable.
MAR 7: 18 And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him;
MAR 7: 19 Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?
MAR 7: 20 And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man.
MAR 7: 21 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,
MAR 7: 22 Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:
MAR 7: 23 All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.

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#10 Mar 24, 2013
TahoeGirl wrote:
There are only 12 Apostles in the Bible the truth about Paul.
You see, Judas was not baptized so he was not HOLY, so he could not be a Christian. By this fact alone I am confinced that Paul could also be seen as an Apostle, though perhaps the word had another meaning back then. It is a word of men and not of God, never used by Jesus. Peter used the word twice, and Paul used it 17 times, referring to his person as Apostle.
Search bible for 'apostle'. First appearing in ROMANS: 1:1

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MEANING TODAY
a:- one of the 12
b. A missionary of the early Christian Church.
c. A leader of the first Christian mission to a country or region.
2. One of the 12 members of the administrative council in the Mormon Church.
3.
a. One who pioneers an important reform movement, cause, or belief: an apostle of conservation.
b. A passionate adherent; a strong supporter.

Were he not an Apostle then he was a Deciple: both, together with all Christians, are ministers of Christ.

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- Jesus taught those who follow him only to Preach what he taught them - for they can never Teach you.

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- Murder: the unauthorized (by God) killing of a creature
- Killing: the authorized (by God) putting to death of a creature
- Judging: In Christianity, the prohibited 'judging' is to execute a penalty upon another as retribution for their sins.
- CO1 5: 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
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#11 Mar 24, 2013
The names of the twelve Apostles:

12 - John and Matthias to replace John.

ACT 1: 12 Then returned they unto Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is from Jerusalem a sabbath day's journey.
ACT 1: 13 And when they were come in, they went up into an upper room, where abode both Peter, and James, and John, and Andrew, Philip, and Thomas, Bartholomew, and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon Zelotes, and Judas the brother of James.
ACT 1: 14 These all continued with one accord in prayer and supplication, with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brethren.

ACT 1: 22 Beginning from the baptism of John, unto that same day that he was taken up from us, must one be ordained to be a witness with us of his resurrection.
ACT 1: 23 And they appointed two, Joseph called Barsabas, who was surnamed Justus, and Matthias.
ACT 1: 24 And they prayed, and said, Thou, Lord, which knowest the hearts of all men, shew whether of these two thou hast chosen,
ACT 1: 25 That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.

ACT 1: 26 And they gave forth their lots; and the lot fell upon Matthias; and he was numbered with the eleven apostles.

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- The Gospel is not the way you like to see it: it is the way it is.
- Jesus taught those who follow him only to Preach what he taught them - for they can never Teach you.

Calling The Unbeliever, Confronting The Lukewarm, Exposing The Hypocrite
Do Not Follow Men, Nor Churches! Come to Christ, says God!
http://www.theholychristianchurch.com/christi...
http://www.theholychristianchurch.com/baptism...

- Murder: the unauthorized (by God) killing of a creature
- Killing: the authorized (by God) putting to death of a creature
- Judging: In Christianity, the prohibited 'judging' is to execute a penalty upon another as retribution for their sins.
- CO1 5: 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
- Protect the Children from Satan in the Churches: http://www.silentlambs.org
TahoeGirl

Orlando, FL

#12 Mar 24, 2013
Cliff09 wrote: You made a very nice post and I did learn something from it, but yet you make a big error when you state that Paul is not an Apostle: he is, for he was made by Jesus.

I say to you this: show me were Jesus picks Paul to be an Apostle were it is written that Paul is on a list that names him as an Apostle. Just because Paul says its so does not make it so. And just because he says in his writings 17 times that he is an Apostle still doesn't make it so. Paul has no witnesses that Jesus as you say picked him. And Jesus does say: "if I bear witness of myself my witness is not true John 5:31.

Cliff09 then says: Jesus warns us and tells us what Paul is: Please, read the whole Chapter and search the book of Acts for the name 'Saul'- Paul's old name.
ACT 9: 15 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:

My thought on this is that you can not us Paul's words to confirm what Jesus says to Paul. Show me an eye witness who comes forward to confirm what Paul says Jesus says. As a matter of fact Mathew 18:16 says "But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established". The writer of Acts is Luke and Luke is not a witness he is just writing what he heard Paul say and nothing more.

Cliff09 also says: YOU: in Acts chapter 1 the remaining 11 Apostles pick Matthias to be the 12th Apostle not Paul.
They also state the qualifications to be an Apostle, which is to have been a follower of Christ from the beginning which Paul was not.
AND MATTHIAS WAS NOT.

Nowhere there is written what 'qualification one must obtain to become an apostle'.
Show me where the qualifictions are written.

The only qualifications that are listed are in Acts:
Act 1:20 For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take.
Act 1:21 Wherefore of these men which have companied with us all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us,
Act 1:22 Beginning from the baptism of John, unto that same day that he was taken up from us, must one be ordained to be a witness with us of his resurrection. Therefor I would say that if you want to hold the office of Apostle these qualifications are the ones that are written of which Paul can not be. Therefor if Paul is not Qualified to be an Apostle why is he claiming to be.

Cliff09 then says: Were he not an Apostle then he was a Disciple: both, together with all Christians, are ministers of Christ.

I hardly know were to began on this one, so he can be anything he wants to be. Wow, this sounds confusing to me that everyone can just take any office they want. Jesus says: Mat 23:8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren

Cliff09 says lastly: The Gospel is not the way you like to see it: it is the way it is.
- Jesus taught those who follow him only to Preach what he taught them - for they can never Teach you.

To this I can only say that the Gospel that you see and the Gospel that I read are not the same. It is possible to believe that Paul is a False Apostle and still believe in Jesus as Lord. Paul has taken an office for himself that he is neither Qualified for and neither is he entitled to no matter how many times he claims it for himself. And if this is true that he is not an Apostle, which he claims he is, than we have to ask how many other things is he claiming that are not so. If he has not been honest about this most basic concept than I have to question what his real motives are. Jesus says Rev 2:2 I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars: why do you think Jesus says this to his Churches?

Respectively, TahoeGirl
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Kladno, Czech Republic

#13 Mar 24, 2013
TahoeGirl wrote:
l
no one cares what that retard writes.

And neither
do I

I did not give you permission to post on this forum, why are you posting on this forum without asking me for my permission?

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#14 Mar 25, 2013
TahoeGirl wrote:
Cliff09 wrote: You made a very nice post and I did learn something from it, but yet you make a big error say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars: why do you think Jesus says this to his Churches?
Respectively, TahoeGirl
a) the gospel that I speak about is the Gospel jesus wrote and you read.

b) indeed, Paul was not an Apostle but used the name to refer to his person, nonetheless, he is one chosen by Jesus to preach the truth to us. But yes, it is proven that he has mingled his own wisdom into his account ( but this is also clear to see to the wiser amongst us).

I believe he's wrong on gays and speaks his own words, not notifying us of this. Also about spouses sanctifying eachother: for he is not god to decide this.

Paul is not a false Apostle, but he may be misnamed a Apostle. He was of no lesser authority. Jesus warned you to leave him alone, for he sent him.

In in all. You make sense to communicate with, other than the fools that come and go here.

----------

- The Gospel is not the way you like to see it: it is the way it is.
- Jesus taught those who follow him only to Preach what he taught them - for they can never Teach you.

Calling The Unbeliever, Confronting The Lukewarm, Exposing The Hypocrite
Do Not Follow Men, Nor Churches! Come to Christ, says God!
http://www.theholychristianchurch.com/christi...
http://www.theholychristianchurch.com/baptism...

- Murder: the unauthorized (by God) killing of a creature
- Killing: the authorized (by God) putting to death of a creature
- Judging: In Christianity, the prohibited 'judging' is to execute a penalty upon another as retribution for their sins.
- CO1 5: 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
- Protect the Children from Satan in the Churches: http://www.silentlambs.org
TahoeGirl

Orlando, FL

#15 Mar 25, 2013
Cliff09 says:a) the gospel that I speak about is the Gospel jesus wrote and you read.

I am not aware of any writings of Jesus.

Cliff09 says: b) indeed, Paul was not an Apostle but used the name to refer to his person, nonetheless, he is one chosen by Jesus to preach the truth to us. But yes, it is proven that he has mingled his own wisdom into his account ( but this is also clear to see to the wiser amongst us).

After calling himself an apostle 16 times in Rom 1:1, 11:13, 1st Cor 1:1, 9:1, 9:2, 15:9, 2nd Cor 1:1, 12:12, Gal 1:1, Eph 1:1, Col 1:1, 1Tim 1:1, 1Tim 2:7, 2Tim 1:1, 1:11 and Titus 1:1, why does Paul drop all claims of apostleship when on the hot seat in Jerusalem claiming in Acts 26:16 only to be a “minister and a witness”?

Deuteronomy 13:1-3 says God will test us with false prophets to see if we love him with all our heart. Could this be true?

Cliff09 says: I believe he's wrong on gays and speaks his own words, not notifying us of this. Also about spouses sanctifying each other: for he is not god to decide this.

I believe he is wrong on much more than that.If the men that were on the Damascus road heard the voice that spoke to Paul in Acts 9:7, then why does Paul change his story in Acts 22:9 saying they didn’t hear it? Is it possible these men refuted his earlier story?

Why does Paul claim in Acts 9:10-16 that his mission to the Gentiles was delivered through Ananias but then refute it later saying it was told to him directly by Jesus without going to Damascus later in Acts 26:16-18? Could it be that Ananias refused to support his earlier story and he had to change it?

Cliff09 says: Paul is not a false Apostle, but he may be misnamed a Apostle. He was of no lesser authority. Jesus warned you to leave him alone, for he sent him.

If not a False Apostle then what kind of an Apostle is he, because he sure says he is one.

Cliff09 says: In in all. You make sense to communicate with, other than the fools that come and go here.

My thoughts exactly, TahoeGirl
Thank you for the engaging conversation.
TheSpiritOfTruth

Kladno, Czech Republic

#16 Mar 25, 2013
Did anything evil happen to you today?

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#17 Mar 26, 2013
TahoeGirl wrote:
Cliff09 says:a) the gospel that I speak about is the Gospel jesus wrote and you read.
I am not aware of any writings of Jesus.
Cliff09 says: b) indeed, Paul was not an Apostle but used the name to refer to his person, nonetheless, he is one chosen by Jesus to preach the truth to us. But yes, it is proven that he has mingled his own wisdom into his account ( but this is also clear to see to the wiser amongst us).
After calling himself an apostle 16 times in Rom 1:1, 11:13, 1st Cor 1:1, 9:1, 9:2, 15:9, 2nd Cor 1:1, 12:12, Gal 1:1, Eph 1:1, Col 1:1, 1Tim 1:1, 1Tim 2:7, 2Tim 1:1, 1:11 and Titus 1:1, why does Paul drop all claims of apostleship when on the hot seat in Jerusalem claiming in Acts 26:16 only to be a “minister and a witness”?
Deuteronomy 13:1-3 says God will test us with false prophets to see if we love him with all our heart. Could this be true?
Cliff09 says: I believe he's wrong on gays and speaks his own words, not notifying us of this. Also about spouses sanctifying each other: for he is not god to decide this.
I believe he is wrong on much more than that.If the men that were on the Damascus road heard the voice that spoke to Paul in Acts 9:7, then why does Paul change his story in Acts 22:9 saying they didn’t hear it? Is it possible these men refuted his earlier story?
Why does Paul claim in Acts 9:10-16 that his mission to the Gentiles was delivered through Ananias but then refute it later saying it was told to him directly by Jesus without going to Damascus later in Acts 26:16-18? Could it be that Ananias refused to support his earlier story and he had to change it?
Cliff09 says: Paul is not a false Apostle, but he may be misnamed a Apostle. He was of no lesser authority. Jesus warned you to leave him alone, for he sent him.
If not a False Apostle then what kind of an Apostle is he, because he sure says he is one.
Cliff09 says: In in all. You make sense to communicate with, other than the fools that come and go here.
My thoughts exactly, TahoeGirl
Thank you for the engaging conversation.
I'll check on all this later, maybe during April. I am making a page on Paul anyway. Plenty to investigate.

I am soo busy.

Regards.
anon

San Antonio, TX

#18 Apr 14, 2013
These Christians think Paul is their Savior.

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#19 Apr 18, 2013
anon wrote:
These Christians think Paul is their Savior.
Your lying opinion noted and rejected.
Prophet of Jesus Christ

San Antonio, TX

#20 May 27, 2013
Prophet of Jesus Christ wrote:
THE "APOSTLE PAUL" CHRISTIANS
Believe that the words of Paul are going to help them circumvent the commandments
of Jesus The Christ.
By saving them from their disobedience to the Commandments of Jesus.
These Christians
live
eat
sleep
and breath
every word
and every verse of this man Paul.
He is their savior.
He is their Lord.
He is everything to them because
his writings make it easy for them to get by and makes them believe
and gives them the sense of security
that because Paul did not or could not live up to the commandments of Jesus.
They do not have to either.
They believe they are going to escape the judgment of God
because the writings of Paul is in the bible.
And the bible is their word of God.
The " Apostle Paul " Christians

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