“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Albuquerque

#437 Dec 10, 2012
Allen Richards wrote:
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Oh I get it, I can call you anything I want to and it is not an insult if I say "It is a statement of fact."
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You try it dood. Google does not translate images.
That's true. Google does not translate images. That's how we know your claim to be a Hebrew scholar and a Greek scholar is noting but a bunch of baloney.

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Albuquerque

#438 Dec 10, 2012
Allen Richards wrote:
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Oh I get it, I can call you anything I want to and it is not an insult if I say "It is a statement of fact."
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You try it dood. Google does not translate images.
Would you be happier if I said everyone who has entered this forum in the last three years claiming to be able to read Hebrew and Greek has turned out to be a fundie fraud.

Unlike you, I have never claimed to be able to read Greek. I might have a bit of luck with Jerome's Latin Vulgate but I will make no false claims.

God bless you.
Thinking

Andover, UK

#439 Dec 10, 2012
I know I can't prove there isn't abuse in your church.
That's not for me to prove.
Allen Richards wrote:
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Can't keep your own story straight? You made the accusation that there was abuse in my "religion" I challenged you to back up your assertion. I see that you can't back it up.
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“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Albuquerque

#441 Dec 10, 2012
Thinking wrote:
I know I can't prove there isn't abuse in your church.
That's not for me to prove.
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Since Allen has aligned himself with the Goofy Fundie Cult of Ignorance, proving there is abuse in his church should be quite easy. If he claims Messianic Judaism is a church, proving there is abuse in his church should be quite easy because it's the same Goofy Fundie Cult of Ignorance.

Glory to God in the highest and on Earth peace to men of good will.

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#442 Dec 10, 2012
The Bible is not a reliable guide to Christ’s teachings. Mark, the oldest of the Gospels, was written at least 30 years after Christ’s death, and the newest of them might have been written more than 200 years after his death. These texts have been amended, translated, and re-translated so often that it’s extremely difficult to gauge the accuracy of current editions—even aside from the matter of the accuracy of texts written decades or centuries after the death of their subject. This is such a problem that the Jesus Seminar, a colloquium of over 200 Protestant Gospel scholars mostly employed at religious colleges and seminaries, undertook in 1985 a multi-year investigation into the historicity of the statements and deeds attributed to Jesus in the New Testament. They concluded that only 18% of the statements and 16% of the deeds attributed to Jesus had a high likelihood of being historically accurate. So, in a very real sense fundamentalists—who claim to believe in the literal truth of the Bible—are not followers of Jesus Christ; rather, they are followers of those who, decades or centuries later, put words in his mouth.
Allen Richards wrote:
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Can't keep your own story straight? You made the accusation that there was abuse in my "religion" I challenged you to back up your assertion. I see that you can't back it up.
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“Call sign: Apache One Six”

Since: Mar 11

US 62 @ US 81

#443 Dec 10, 2012
15th Dalai Lama wrote:
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That's true. Google does not translate images. That's how we know your claim to be a Hebrew scholar and a Greek scholar is noting but a bunch of baloney.
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Still vomiting that lie. I whupped your buttocks on that point. The image you posted from the Talmud I could not have translated by google because google does not translate images. I identified the tractate and quoted the first line in English. Then you linked to another image which you thought was Greek for "know thyself." Your transliteration, which your link did not say, "gnosis auton" does NOT translate "know thyself" but "knowledge him!" Look it up.
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Since you can't run with the big dawgs you should stay under the porch.

“Call sign: Apache One Six”

Since: Mar 11

US 62 @ US 81

#444 Dec 10, 2012
Can't keep your own story straight? You made the accusation that there was abuse in my "religion" I challenged you to back up your assertion. I see that you can't back it up.
swerty wrote:
The Bible is not a reliable guide to Christ’s teachings. Mark, the oldest of the Gospels, was written at least 30 years after Christ’s death, and the newest of them might have been written more than 200 years after his death. These texts have been amended, translated, and re-translated so often that it’s extremely difficult to gauge the accuracy of current editions—even aside from the matter of the accuracy of texts written decades or centuries after the death of their subject. This is such a problem that the Jesus Seminar, a colloquium of over 200 Protestant Gospel scholars mostly employed at religious colleges and seminaries, undertook in 1985 a multi-year investigation into the historicity of the statements and deeds attributed to Jesus in the New Testament. They concluded that only 18% of the statements and 16% of the deeds attributed to Jesus had a high likelihood of being historically accurate. So, in a very real sense fundamentalists—who claim to believe in the literal truth of the Bible—are not followers of Jesus Christ; rather, they are followers of those who, decades or centuries later, put words in his mouth.
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Does not address my post and is just ache rock gush hit concocted by some Bible hating atheist and vomited by other atheists.

“Call sign: Apache One Six”

Since: Mar 11

US 62 @ US 81

#445 Dec 10, 2012
Thinking wrote:
I know I can't prove there isn't abuse in your church.
That's not for me to prove.
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Are you stupid or what? I did NOT challenge you to prove there was not abuse in my church. You made an accusation there there was abuse in my church, and I challenged you to prove your accusation. But you just want to play stupid. Just another ignorant Bible hating atheist.
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“Call sign: Apache One Six”

Since: Mar 11

US 62 @ US 81

#446 Dec 10, 2012
15th Dalai Lama wrote:
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Since Allen has aligned himself with the Goofy Fundie Cult of Ignorance, proving there is abuse in his church should be quite easy. If he claims Messianic Judaism is a church, proving there is abuse in his church should be quite easy because it's the same Goofy Fundie Cult of Ignorance.
Glory to God in the highest and on Earth peace to men of good will.
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Who said I was MJ?
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“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Albuquerque

#447 Dec 10, 2012
Allen Richards wrote:
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Still vomiting that lie. I whupped your buttocks on that point. The image you posted from the Talmud I could not have translated by google because google does not translate images. I identified the tractate and quoted the first line in English. Then you linked to another image which you thought was Greek for "know thyself." Your transliteration, which your link did not say, "gnosis auton" does NOT translate "know thyself" but "knowledge him!" Look it up.
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Since you can't run with the big dawgs you should stay under the porch.
You translated two words. Well done. I've already congratulated you for that.

I didn't think it was Greek. I know it was Greek since it was translated by a Greek in residence at the time. You're just being a crybaby because you can't really read Greek.

By the way, I'll probably have very little trouble with English translations of the Bible or much of anything at all in English after about 1400 AD.

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Albuquerque

#448 Dec 10, 2012
Allen Richards wrote:
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Who said I was MJ?
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You've pandered more than a few evangelical fundamentalist websites as 'Scholarly Hebrew sources'.
Thinking

Andover, UK

#449 Dec 10, 2012
Or what.

That still won't help me prove there isn't abuse in your church.
That's not for me to prove.
Allen Richards wrote:
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Are you stupid or what? I did NOT challenge you to prove there was not abuse in my church. You made an accusation there there was abuse in my church, and I challenged you to prove your accusation. But you just want to play stupid. Just another ignorant Bible hating atheist.
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“Call sign: Apache One Six”

Since: Mar 11

US 62 @ US 81

#450 Dec 10, 2012
15th Dalai Lama wrote:
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You translated two words. Well done. I've already congratulated you for that.
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Lion sack gush hit! You can't keep your lies straight. You first linked to the Talmud. I identified the tractate and quoted the first line in English. Then you linked to something else from which I translated "sons of Israel."
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I didn't think it was Greek. I know it was Greek since it was translated by a Greek in residence at the time. You're just being a crybaby because you can't really read Greek.
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Still a lion sack gush hit! There was no "resident Greek" translated that crap! It had some Greek characters but it was not correct anything in Greek. It had a character that looked like a capital "C." There is no such character in Greek. You claimed it said "gnosis auton" and claimed that it meant "know thyself." Your link did not say "gnosis auton" if it did that would mean "knowledge him." That's what happens when an idiot tries to trick someone with another language.
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Jeff

San Jose, CA

#451 Dec 10, 2012
15th Dalai Lama wrote:
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You've pandered more than a few evangelical fundamentalist websites as 'Scholarly Hebrew sources'.
What so called "Scholarly Hebrew sources" would you recommend?

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Albuquerque

#452 Dec 10, 2012
Jeff wrote:
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What so called "Scholarly Hebrew sources" would you recommend?
I don't generally recommend scholarly Hebrew sources. I find Biblos.com , Jewishencyclopedia.com , and the Jewish Publication Society translation of the Hebrew Bible helpful. I also find it convenient to have a map of the Biblical Middle East handy when reading the Bible to put the Who and What together with the Where.

“Third Eye”

Since: Nov 10

You can't get there from here.

#453 Dec 10, 2012
Allen Richards wrote:
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Excellent study by Dr Daniel Wallace who has taught graduate level Greek for 30+ years at DTS. Now for Dr. Wallace's conclusion.
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3. Conclusion on Authorship
Although a very strong case has been made against Petrine authorship of 2 Peter, we believe it is deficient. Not only is there very good evidence that this epistle was utilized in the late first and early second century by a variety of writers (as Picirilli has recently pointed out), but the occasion for the letter fits the lifetime of Peter better than later. Further, once some kind of amanuensis hypothesis is seriously taken into consideration (in our view, an amanuensis was used for 1 Peter but probably not for 2 Peter63), then many of the objections against Petrine authorship are found wanting. Taken together, these external and internal arguments strongly suggest the traditional view, viz., that Peter was indeed the author of the second epistle which bears his name.64
http://bible.org/seriespage/second-peter-intr...
Huh, go figure...

“Call sign: Apache One Six”

Since: Mar 11

US 62 @ US 81

#454 Dec 10, 2012
Allen Richards wrote:
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Excellent study by Dr Daniel Wallace who has taught graduate level Greek for 30+ years at DTS. Now for Dr. Wallace's conclusion.
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3. Conclusion on Authorship
Although a very strong case has been made against Petrine authorship of 2 Peter, we believe it is deficient. Not only is there very good evidence that this epistle was utilized in the late first and early second century by a variety of writers (as Picirilli has recently pointed out), but the occasion for the letter fits the lifetime of Peter better than later. Further, once some kind of amanuensis hypothesis is seriously taken into consideration (in our view, an amanuensis was used for 1 Peter but probably not for 2 Peter63), then many of the objections against Petrine authorship are found wanting. Taken together, these external and internal arguments strongly suggest the traditional view, viz., that Peter was indeed the author of the second epistle which bears his name.64

http://bible.org/seriespage/second-peter-intr...
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NDanger wrote:
Huh, go figure...
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If there is anything you don't understand about my post I'll be glad to explain it.
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Since: May 12

Bellevue, WA

#455 Dec 10, 2012
hey pope Been-A-D!ck... you finally realizing what everyone already knew......wow you cathardo's and talibangelicals are dumb

“Call sign: Apache One Six”

Since: Mar 11

US 62 @ US 81

#456 Dec 10, 2012
15th Dalai Lama wrote:
You translated two words. Well done. I've already congratulated you for that.
I didn't think it was Greek. I know it was Greek since it was translated by a Greek in residence at the time. You're just being a crybaby because you can't really read Greek.
By the way, I'll probably have very little trouble with English translations of the Bible or much of anything at all in English after about 1400 AD.

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/christian...
Let’s examine your lies about this point. I did make one error. I said that you linked to the Talmud. It was not you it was FSM, in this post.

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/christian...
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In this post I identified the source as from the Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Yebamoth. And the first line reads,

"Mishnah fifteen categories of women exempt their rivals and the rivals of their rivals."

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/christian...
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In this post you linked to something which you claimed was Greek.

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/christian...
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In this post you claimed it meant “Gnosis Auton,””Know thyself.”

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/christian...
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But in this post you changed your story and linked to another site claiming that it said “Gnothi Seauton.”

http://www.criticaltwenties.in/philosophyreli...
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But even this site is wrong “know thyself”, in Greek, should read “Gnothi Seauton” But your link is missing the epsilon “E” and reads “Gnothi Sauton.”
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As I said day lion sack gush hit. You do not know what you are talking about. Poor pathetic wannabe.
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Tickedoffchick

Enfield, CT

#457 Dec 10, 2012
Allen Richards wrote:
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Let’s examine your lies about this point. I did make one error. I said that you linked to the Talmud. It was not you it was FSM, in this post.
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/christian...
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In this post I identified the source as from the Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Yebamoth. And the first line reads,
"Mishnah fifteen categories of women exempt their rivals and the rivals of their rivals."
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/christian...
__________
In this post you linked to something which you claimed was Greek.
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/christian...
__________
In this post you claimed it meant “Gnosis Auton,””Know thyself.”
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/christian...
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But in this post you changed your story and linked to another site claiming that it said “Gnothi Seauton.”
http://www.criticaltwenties.in/philosophyreli...
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But even this site is wrong “know thyself”, in Greek, should read “Gnothi Seauton” But your link is missing the epsilon “E” and reads “Gnothi Sauton.”
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As I said day lion sack gush hit. You do not know what you are talking about. Poor pathetic wannabe.
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You're just a nasty senile old man. No one takes anything you say seriously, except for a few uneducated fundies.

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