Creation Proves The Creator

Creation Proves The Creator

Posted in the Christian Forum

First Prev
of 8
Next Last
buck

AOL

#1 Oct 21, 2013
There is enough seen by mankind all around the earth and the vast sky to prove God exists. Scientists tell us that things that are created prove the existence of a creator who created them.
The big bang and evolution are man's drummed up theories, nothing
100% proven. If you don't believe that God exists just tell him LOL
bill

Alexandria, VA

#2 Nov 1, 2013
you say a building has a builder right? okay so what created the builder that built the building? what created your god? you can't say your god created himself then claim that a building requires a builder, you can't have your cake and eat it too.

NDanger

“Third Eye”

Since: Nov 10

You can't get there from here.

#3 Nov 1, 2013
bill wrote:
you say a building has a builder right? okay so what created the builder that built the building? what created your god? you can't say your god created himself then claim that a building requires a builder, you can't have your cake and eat it too.
Next time you are out, go blow up a Home Depot and tell me if the end result is a finished house...

Since: Aug 08

Somewhere in Ireland

#4 Nov 2, 2013
NDanger wrote:
<quoted text>
Next time you are out, go blow up a Home Depot and tell me if the end result is a finished house...
In that particular case, the end result is called called terrorism!
Roland_Deschain

UK

#5 Nov 2, 2013
NDanger wrote:
<quoted text>
Next time you are out, go blow up a Home Depot and tell me if the end result is a finished house...
I take it you are unable to answer the question asked by "bill".
Roland_Deschain

UK

#6 Nov 2, 2013
buck wrote:
There is enough seen by mankind all around the earth and the vast sky to prove God exists.
It merely "proves God" to superstitious people like you.
buck wrote:
Scientists tell us that things that are created prove the existence of a creator who created them.
No they don't.
buck wrote:
The big bang and evolution are man's drummed up theories, nothing
100% proven.
"As used in science, a theory is an explanation or model based o"n observation, experimentation, and reasoning, especially one that has been tested and confirmed as a general principle helping to explain and predict natural phenomena.

Any scientific theory must be based on a careful and rational examination of the facts. A clear distinction needs to be made between facts (things which can be observed and/or measured) and theories (explanations which correlate and interpret the facts."

http://www.fsteiger.com/theory.html
buck wrote:
If you don't believe that God exists just tell him
I'm not in the habit of talking to imaginary deities. That's the department of stupid people like you.
Punisher

Bronxville, NY

#7 Nov 2, 2013
NDanger wrote:
<quoted text>
Next time you are out, go blow up a Home Depot and tell me if the end result is a finished house...
Stupid and ignorant. You know damn well that such a scenario in no way compares to Abiogenesis, or Evolution, or even for that matter your silly creation myths. You in fact denigrate your belief system by relying on such silly thinking...

But you rely on the cliche (a form of the older tornado thru the junk yard bit) because people like you think its smart and pithy. Folks like you too often rely on bumper-sticker style thinking...that's about as deep as the thickness of a peel and stick sticker...because at the end of the day its fear that holds you back from actually taking a seriously hard look at all the absurdities you force - or are forced - to believe in so to create sense of being "saved" and special in the eyes of an imaginary Super Being.
Punisher

Bronxville, NY

#8 Nov 2, 2013
buck wrote:
There is enough seen by mankind all around the earth and the vast sky to prove God exists. Scientists tell us that things that are created prove the existence of a creator who created them.
The big bang and evolution are man's drummed up theories, nothing
100% proven. If you don't believe that God exists just tell him LOL
And if one actually reads the Bible with a discerning eye, they would/should conclude that there is no way that God is the creator. He's too small.

I dont care if humans are wrong about Abiogenesis, or Evo - your silly little myths in no way explain it all. No way! Its too silly a collection of stories and forced beliefs about them...to explain Life and the Universe.

NDanger

“Third Eye”

Since: Nov 10

You can't get there from here.

#9 Nov 2, 2013
par five wrote:
<quoted text>
In that particular case, the end result is called called terrorism!
Great answer...

NDanger

“Third Eye”

Since: Nov 10

You can't get there from here.

#10 Nov 2, 2013
Roland_Deschain wrote:
<quoted text>
I take it you are unable to answer the question asked by "bill".
What part of the Alpha and Omega don't you get?

NDanger

“Third Eye”

Since: Nov 10

You can't get there from here.

#11 Nov 2, 2013
Punisher wrote:
<quoted text>Stupid and ignorant. You know damn well that such a scenario in no way compares to Abiogenesis, or Evolution, or even for that matter your silly creation myths. You in fact denigrate your belief system by relying on such silly thinking...
But you rely on the cliche (a form of the older tornado thru the junk yard bit) because people like you think its smart and pithy. Folks like you too often rely on bumper-sticker style thinking...that's about as deep as the thickness of a peel and stick sticker...because at the end of the day its fear that holds you back from actually taking a seriously hard look at all the absurdities you force - or are forced - to believe in so to create sense of being "saved" and special in the eyes of an imaginary Super Being.
Actually, it's a very good scenario and nothing to do with Abiogenesis or Evolution, but the double b...

I'm not 'forced' to believe anything as it's on my own 'freewill'...ruhroh, there's that word again...

Do you 'believe' you came from rock?
Roland_Deschain

UK

#12 Nov 2, 2013
NDanger wrote:
<quoted text>
What part of the Alpha and Omega don't you get?
I get it is superstitious nonsense.
Roland_Deschain

UK

#13 Nov 2, 2013
NDanger wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you 'believe' you came from rock?
We came from our mother's womb.

“Jesus=only way into Heaven”

Since: Nov 12

saved by grace through faith

#14 Nov 2, 2013
buck wrote:
There is enough seen by mankind all around the earth and the vast sky to prove God exists. Scientists tell us that things that are created prove the existence of a creator who created them.
The big bang and evolution are man's drummed up theories, nothing
100% proven. If you don't believe that God exists just tell him LOL
Amen, excellent post!

It takes much more "faith" to believe everything just miraculously and magically evolved over the course of billions and billions of years than to be believe in a Creator. The complexity of the human body alone proves Intelligent design. I guess unbelievers look in the mirror and just see a glob of evolved bacteria, but as a believer I see a child of God in the mirror looking back at me.

Look at the mountains, rivers, oceans, lakes, plants, trees, animals, sun, moon, stars, planets, etc etc.......everything is just so perfect and operates so smoothly and efficiently....of course there is a Creator who created everything and watches over His creation!

Unbelievers say "where did God come from?". We answer "He is eternal, He had no beginning". They ask "how can that be?". We ask them "where did the original bacteria and evolving space material come from?". They answer "I don't know".

EVERYTHING proves without a doubt a Creator! God created EVERYTHING just the way He wanted it! EVERYTHING didn't just magically and miraculously evolve over the course of billions and billions of years, that's not even believable.

I still don't understand how Satan pulled off that evolution lie, I guess if you fling enough lies and garbage to foolish God-rejecting unbelievers, something will eventually stick no matter how asinine.

“Jesus=only way into Heaven”

Since: Nov 12

saved by grace through faith

#15 Nov 2, 2013
"ALL THIS JESUS DID FOR THEE"
http://www.biblebelievers.com/AllThis.html

"How To Be Saved According to the Word of God"
http://www.soulwinning.info/tracts/how_to_be_...
Roland_Deschain

UK

#16 Nov 3, 2013
Romans Road wrote:
<quoted text>
Amen, excellent post!
It takes much more "faith" to believe everything just miraculously and magically evolved over the course of billions and billions of years than to be believe in a Creator. The complexity of the human body alone proves Intelligent design. I guess unbelievers look in the mirror and just see a glob of evolved bacteria, but as a believer I see a child of God in the mirror looking back at me.
Look at the mountains, rivers, oceans, lakes, plants, trees, animals, sun, moon, stars, planets, etc etc.......everything is just so perfect and operates so smoothly and efficiently....of course there is a Creator who created everything and watches over His creation!
Unbelievers say "where did God come from?". We answer "He is eternal, He had no beginning". They ask "how can that be?". We ask them "where did the original bacteria and evolving space material come from?". They answer "I don't know".
EVERYTHING proves without a doubt a Creator! God created EVERYTHING just the way He wanted it! EVERYTHING didn't just magically and miraculously evolve over the course of billions and billions of years, that's not even believable.
I still don't understand how Satan pulled off that evolution lie, I guess if you fling enough lies and garbage to foolish God-rejecting unbelievers, something will eventually stick no matter how asinine.
If you had any evidence at all your position would not be one of religious faith.
Punisher

Eastchester, NY

#17 Nov 3, 2013
NDanger wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, it's a very good scenario and nothing to do with Abiogenesis or Evolution, but the double b...
I'm not 'forced' to believe anything as it's on my own 'freewill'...ruhroh, there's that word again...
Do you 'believe' you came from rock?
Not directly from minerals.

By using the terms "came from a rock" you show your ignorance on the topic. Again.

No, the sweeping of a tornado thru a junkyard, or blowing up (funny that a Xtian would use such a twisted idea as blowing up a retail outlet, where people are likely inside) a HomeDepot, or Lowes or an Ace, or Walmart in an attempt to disprove Evolution shows a serious lack of insight and intelligence on your part.

ID/Creation was done (by a God) with the intent to create life, not to maybe create it...so your scenario is not a legit comparison. A bomber has no intent to create life, or other designed objects - but to end life and create chaos and fear.

You see analogies have to be tight from every angle otherwise they are not any good and show the user/creator of them to be as dumb as the rock they think Evo says we came from...!

No, you are forced to believe in the absurd. You think that if you don't believe in talking donkeys, and fruit shilling serpents - you are damned. Free-will doesnt exist when absurdities are forced on people in the form of litmus test. When its a gun to head, free-will no longer exists.

You are forced by tradition and some doctrines to believe in full that ancient story telling devices are all stating the absolute truth when they rely on absurdities.
Punisher

Eastchester, NY

#18 Nov 3, 2013
Romans Road wrote:
<quoted text>
Amen, excellent post!
It takes much more "faith" to believe everything just miraculously and magically evolved over the course of billions and billions of years than to be believe in a Creator. The complexity of the human body alone proves Intelligent design. I guess unbelievers look in the mirror and just see a glob of evolved bacteria, but as a believer I see a child of God in the mirror looking back at me.
Look at the mountains, rivers, oceans, lakes, plants, trees, animals, sun, moon, stars, planets, etc etc.......everything is just so perfect and operates so smoothly and efficiently....of course there is a Creator who created everything and watches over His creation!
Unbelievers say "where did God come from?". We answer "He is eternal, He had no beginning". They ask "how can that be?". We ask them "where did the original bacteria and evolving space material come from?". They answer "I don't know".
EVERYTHING proves without a doubt a Creator! God created EVERYTHING just the way He wanted it! EVERYTHING didn't just magically and miraculously evolve over the course of billions and billions of years, that's not even believable.
I still don't understand how Satan pulled off that evolution lie, I guess if you fling enough lies and garbage to foolish God-rejecting unbelievers, something will eventually stick no matter how asinine.
Uh no. It takes way more "faith" to believe in talking donkeys, fruit shilling serpents, virgins inseminated by ghosts, an ark filled with thousands of creatures to weather a 40 day flood/storm, the walking dead, wine multiplying miracles, and loaves of bread falling from the sky, among others - than the realities of the many scientific disciplines supporting Evo.

In fact its what the term RELIGIOUS FAITH is all about - believing in things, in crazy absurdities, with absolutely zero proof !

The more we humans learn about the Natural World, here on Earth and out there in the vastness of the cosmos - proves to me more and more that there is no way your silly LITTLE God could have created all of it! No way! He's just too small a deity to have been the cause of all "this"...!

As for Satan, if we actually believe Xtian theology - he's nothing but your Gods minion working your Gods plan. SO your God is complicit in tricking us at every turn. He created Satan, knowing full well what he would be up to and yet he allowed it to play out. Among others, Your God condones the scattering of fossils to confuse and trick us, and he condones the use of Supernatural powers to trick us humans at every turn...

So your faced with three troubling problems in no particular order; 1. Your God has a lot less power than you claim. 2. He's complicit in Satans work, and/or 3. His plan was always to banish us from paradise and set up an elaborate scheme of trickery - using supernatural beings with super-powers - to cause some humans to not find a way back to paradise.
Punisher

Eastchester, NY

#19 Nov 3, 2013
NDanger wrote:
<quoted text>
What part of the Alpha and Omega don't you get?
Wow! just toss that out...like you understand it. LOL!

You talk in bumper-sticker speak.
Punisher

Eastchester, NY

#20 Nov 3, 2013
NDanger wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, it's a very good scenario and nothing to do with Abiogenesis or Evolution, but the double b...
I'm not 'forced' to believe anything as it's on my own 'freewill'...ruhroh, there's that word again...
Do you 'believe' you came from rock?
Uh...the Double-B is Abiogenesis...

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker
First Prev
of 8
Next Last

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Christian Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
Mother Teresa a Saint? What a cruel Joke!!! 14 min Thinking 49
Bible Interpretation 42 min Big Al 381
Scientific Proof Of GOD(for dummies) (Mar '16) 51 min truth 2,801
Scripture 2 hr Big Al 143
WHICH of the 3 ACCOUNTS IS CORRECT????? (Jan '16) 2 hr Barmsweb 177
The Moral Failure Of Christians 2 hr Barmsweb 187
Why lie about the truth? Christian mistranslat... 12 hr Barmsweb 489
More from around the web