Since: Nov 13

United States

#354 Dec 28, 2013
LGK wrote:
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What caused the dramatic climate change (it wasn't SUVs!)?
I could cut across all speculations & say a global flood wiped out past civilisations but as you know that raffles feathers.
The Anunnaki, although initially accepted, and very technologically advanced themselves, subsequently caused immense problems after their arrival to Earth and a war broke out. It seems this was no small battle, indeed, it changed the entire face of the Earth and irrevocably altered the course of life thereon.

(Note: The planet, Tiamat (Tia-MAAT), was destroyed in this war, which we now call the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter. Mars began to lose it’s atmosphere, which affected everything on it’s surface eventually, in this war between the Anunnaki and the Ancient Ones.)

According to Sumerian sacred texts, the "Elder gods" (the Anunnaki), battled with and destroyed the Ancient Ones, and specifically Tiamat, their queen, the ancient of days, who is described as a "great wicked serpent" or "mighty dragon". Also described are her many strange allies - serpent men, dragons, sphinxes (lionmen), centaurs, dogmen and scorpion men. The titanic battle raged for ten years or more, laying waste to the Earth and its inhabitants...

The Anunnaki eventually won the battle and they divided up parts of the Earth between them. It is only after this that Humankind was "created" as a slave race. The Anunnaki were a race of warlords, for they often fought amongst themselves and involved Humans in their endless power struggles and petty jealousies.

This was written down in Sumerian text as the battle between Enki and Enlil - two Reptilian brothers.

The final battle which tore a hole in space-time, permanently damaging human DNA, happened back in Atlantis.(Read Edgar Casey for the details)

Read more:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunn...

“Shoot for the stars”

Since: Dec 10

Planet Earth

#355 Dec 28, 2013
LGK wrote:
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I can answer the 1st question in the same way Evolutionism-Atheism does. We don't know why these lakes have no salt water but given enough time, we'll figure it out.[I wish I was being cheeky but that's what really happens in academia]. But you raise an important objection. However, haven't you assumed that ocean was always salty?
The meteor is a possibility & so is a flood. I go with a flood because of sedimentary layers of rock across the whole earth which are consistent with hydrolic global deposition.
Compliments of:
http://ga.water.usgs.gov/edu/whyoceansalty.ht...

"Salt comes up from below, too
Rivers and surface runoff are not the only source of dissolved salts. Hydrothermal vents are recently-discovered features on the crest of oceanic ridges that contribute dissolved minerals to the oceans. These vents are the exit point on the ocean floor from which sea water that has seeped into the rocks of the oceanic crust has become hotter, has dissolved some of the minerals from the crust, and then flows back into the ocean. With the hot water comes large amounts of dissolved minerals. Estimates of the amount of hydrothermal fluids now flowing from these vents indicate that the entire volume of the oceans could seep through the oceanic crust in about 10 million years. Thus, this process has a very important effect on salinity. The reactions between seawater and oceanic basalt, the rock of ocean crust, are not one-way, however; some of the dissolved salts react with the rock and are removed from seawater."

"A final process that provides salts to the oceans is submarine volcanism, the eruption of volcanoes under water. This is similar to the previous process in that seawater is reacting with hot rock and dissolving some of the mineral constituents."
LGK

Preston, UK

#356 Dec 29, 2013
Earth Child 1 wrote:
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Compliments of:
http://ga.water.usgs.gov/edu/whyoceansalty.ht...
"Salt comes up from below, too
Rivers and surface runoff are not the only source of dissolved salts. Hydrothermal vents are recently-discovered features on the crest of oceanic ridges that contribute dissolved minerals to the oceans. These vents are the exit point on the ocean floor from which sea water that has seeped into the rocks of the oceanic crust has become hotter, has dissolved some of the minerals from the crust, and then flows back into the ocean. With the hot water comes large amounts of dissolved minerals. Estimates of the amount of hydrothermal fluids now flowing from these vents indicate that the entire volume of the oceans could seep through the oceanic crust in about 10 million years. Thus, this process has a very important effect on salinity. The reactions between seawater and oceanic basalt, the rock of ocean crust, are not one-way, however; some of the dissolved salts react with the rock and are removed from seawater."
"A final process that provides salts to the oceans is submarine volcanism, the eruption of volcanoes under water. This is similar to the previous process in that seawater is reacting with hot rock and dissolving some of the mineral constituents."
I notice you've got 10 million years in there somewhere. I challenge that & always ask for evidence for it. There is a good reason, it is an assumption around which most of the evidence revolves. If the assumption is false & I say it is so is the rest of the stuff built around it.

Sorry if I'm being a pain but millions of years is serious and unseen problem.
LGK

Preston, UK

#357 Dec 29, 2013
Old GT wrote:
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Tectonic plate is a theory. I know Darwinist claim "theory" is fact. But the Tectonic plate theory has some holes, literally, in the ground. Geologists say the San Juan volcanic field in the Rocky Mountains southwest of Denver contains lava from deep within the crust. Even though the "plate" is supposed to be further west. Then consider Yellowstone in Wyoming. That area is one big volcanic cauldron.
I've always thought The Rocky Mountain range is like a continental connecting ridge running through the Sierra Madres in Mexico, Central America and up into the Andes Mountains.
Darwinists play word games with theory & fact. They also don't realise that no matter how clever sounding or with what big words, the tectonics idea is just a story.

Bottom line, none of us were there when these things formed & what we can say about them is very limited. Darwinists stories change all the time meaning they were never true in the 1st place, truth never changes. The Bible does not change & it's foolish not go with but chase after the latest "theory" which will anyway be ditched in 50 years time.

Since: Nov 13

United States

#358 Dec 29, 2013
LGK wrote:
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Darwinists play word games with theory & fact. They also don't realise that no matter how clever sounding or with what big words, the tectonics idea is just a story.
Bottom line, none of us were there when these things formed & what we can say about them is very limited. Darwinists stories change all the time meaning they were never true in the 1st place, truth never changes. The Bible does not change & it's foolish not go with but chase after the latest "theory" which will anyway be ditched in 50 years time.
I can agree with you on Darwinist but the Bible has changed a few times.

If we examine the oldest known Bible to date, the "Sinai Bible" housed in the British Museum , we find a staggering 14,800 differences from today’s Bible.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/biblianazar...

The Bible was not handed to mankind by God, nor was it dictated to human stenographers by God. It has nothing to do with God. In actuality, the Bible was VOTED to be the word of God by a group of men during the 4th century.

Emperor Constantine, who was Roman Emperor from 306 CE until his death in 337 CE, used what motivates many to action - MONEY! He offered the various Church leaders money to agree upon a single canon that would be used by all Christians as the word of God. The Church leaders gathered together at the Council of Nicaea and voted the "word of God" into existence.
http://www.deism.com/bibleorigins.htm
no-one-special

Mérida, Mexico

#359 Dec 29, 2013
Truthseeker007 wrote:
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I can agree with you on Darwinist but the Bible has changed a few times.
If we examine the oldest known Bible to date, the "Sinai Bible" housed in the British Museum , we find a staggering 14,800 differences from today’s Bible.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/biblianazar...
The Bible was not handed to mankind by God, nor was it dictated to human stenographers by God. It has nothing to do with God. In actuality, the Bible was VOTED to be the word of God by a group of men during the 4th century.
Emperor Constantine, who was Roman Emperor from 306 CE until his death in 337 CE, used what motivates many to action - MONEY! He offered the various Church leaders money to agree upon a single canon that would be used by all Christians as the word of God. The Church leaders gathered together at the Council of Nicaea and voted the "word of God" into existence.
http://www.deism.com/bibleorigins.htm
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It's just a shame the Roman Gentile pagans and those so-called teachers didn't realize the Jewish books they included were prophecying and exposing their diabolical schemes all along. If the dummies in "scarlett" only knew huh?...lol

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----2 Timothy 4:3-4 For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.

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LGK

Preston, UK

#360 Dec 29, 2013
Truthseeker007 wrote:
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I can agree with you on Darwinist but the Bible has changed a few times.
If we examine the oldest known Bible to date, the "Sinai Bible" housed in the British Museum , we find a staggering 14,800 differences from today’s Bible.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/biblianazar...
The Bible was not handed to mankind by God, nor was it dictated to human stenographers by God. It has nothing to do with God. In actuality, the Bible was VOTED to be the word of God by a group of men during the 4th century.
Emperor Constantine, who was Roman Emperor from 306 CE until his death in 337 CE, used what motivates many to action - MONEY! He offered the various Church leaders money to agree upon a single canon that would be used by all Christians as the word of God. The Church leaders gathered together at the Council of Nicaea and voted the "word of God" into existence.
http://www.deism.com/bibleorigins.htm
Suppose I agreed (I don't but let's say) that Bible contents were voted in by Nicaea in 4th C. What was voted in still had to have been written & what was written counts as much as who let in. In fact, it had to be written 1st.

I once listened for 90mins to Bart Ehrman describing 200 000 differences in the Bible. It turned out they were equivalent to UK Vs US English & typos. So unless I hear what the alleged specific differences are, I don't get impressed by their number. Off the top of my head, if the Bible had 14k differences as you say, would we still have a Bible to be arguing about today?

Recently I was comparing NIV & KJV. I could point out lot's of differences in Genesis alone, KJV says firmament, NIV says vault & on & on it goes. But the story is the same. I watched 9-11 on BBC, CNN, FOX, ITN & I could list differences. But the story is the same. You catch my drift?

PS
All the Books in the Old Testament were in the Septuagint in 250BC. The New Testament can reconstructed from 1st century letters between church fathers ie the Bible was complete long before Constantine.
no-one-special

Mérida, Mexico

#361 Dec 29, 2013
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-----2 CORINTHIANS 11:4 For if someone (false preacher) comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we (Jewish apostles) preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the Spirit you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted (from the Jewish apostles), you put up with it easily enough.

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-----ACTS 2:22 “Fellow Israelites, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know.

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----ACTS 10:38 how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and power, and how he went around doing good and healing all who were under the power of the devil, because GOD WAS WITH HIM.

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Look them up: http://biblehub.com/

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ROMANS 15:6
1 CORINTHIANS 8:6
2 CORINTHIANS 1:2-3
2 CORINTHIANS 11:31
EPHESIANS 1:2
EPHESIANS 1:17
EPHESIANS 4:4-6
1 PETER 1:3
2 JOHN 1:3
1 THESSALONIANS 1:1
2 THESSALONIANS 1:2
2 TIMOTHY 1:2
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“Third Eye”

Since: Nov 10

You can't get there from here.

#362 Dec 29, 2013
LGK wrote:
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Suppose I agreed (I don't but let's say) that Bible contents were voted in by Nicaea in 4th C. What was voted in still had to have been written & what was written counts as much as who let in. In fact, it had to be written 1st.
I once listened for 90mins to Bart Ehrman describing 200 000 differences in the Bible. It turned out they were equivalent to UK Vs US English & typos. So unless I hear what the alleged specific differences are, I don't get impressed by their number. Off the top of my head, if the Bible had 14k differences as you say, would we still have a Bible to be arguing about today?
Recently I was comparing NIV & KJV. I could point out lot's of differences in Genesis alone, KJV says firmament, NIV says vault & on & on it goes. But the story is the same. I watched 9-11 on BBC, CNN, FOX, ITN & I could list differences. But the story is the same. You catch my drift?
PS
All the Books in the Old Testament were in the Septuagint in 250BC. The New Testament can reconstructed from 1st century letters between church fathers ie the Bible was complete long before Constantine.
Agreed! I've always stated "The message is still the same"! It's like they are some great sleuth that found something no one else is aware of and that they are going to turn Christianity on its head...

"Desperate measures for desperate people" I say...

Since: Nov 13

United States

#363 Dec 29, 2013
LGK wrote:
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Suppose I agreed (I don't but let's say) that Bible contents were voted in by Nicaea in 4th C. What was voted in still had to have been written & what was written counts as much as who let in. In fact, it had to be written 1st.
I once listened for 90mins to Bart Ehrman describing 200 000 differences in the Bible. It turned out they were equivalent to UK Vs US English & typos. So unless I hear what the alleged specific differences are, I don't get impressed by their number. Off the top of my head, if the Bible had 14k differences as you say, would we still have a Bible to be arguing about today?
Recently I was comparing NIV & KJV. I could point out lot's of differences in Genesis alone, KJV says firmament, NIV says vault & on & on it goes. But the story is the same. I watched 9-11 on BBC, CNN, FOX, ITN & I could list differences. But the story is the same. You catch my drift?
PS
All the Books in the Old Testament were in the Septuagint in 250BC. The New Testament can reconstructed from 1st century letters between church fathers ie the Bible was complete long before Constantine.
The consensus of many biblical historians put the dating of the earliest Gospel, that of Mark, at sometime after 70 C.E., and the last Gospel, John after 90 C.E.[Pagels, 1995; Helms]. This would make it some 40 years after the alleged crucifixion of Jesus that we have any Gospel writings that mention him! Elaine Pagels writes that "the first Christian gospel was probably written during the last year of the war, or the year it ended. Where it was written and by whom we do not know; the work is anonymous, although tradition attributes it to Mark..." [Pagels, 1995]

The traditional Church has portrayed the authors as the apostles Mark, Luke, Matthew, & John, but scholars know from critical textural research that there simply occurs no evidence that the gospel authors could have served as the apostles described in the Gospel stories. Yet even today, we hear priests and ministers describing these authors as the actual disciples of Christ. Many Bibles still continue to label the stories as "The Gospel according to St. Matthew," "St. Mark," "St. Luke," St. John." No apostle would have announced his own sainthood before the Church's establishment of sainthood. But one need not refer to scholars to determine the lack of evidence for authorship. As an experiment, imagine the Gospels without their titles. See if you can find out from the texts who wrote them; try to find their names.

http://www.nobeliefs.com/exist.htm

They made use of a wide variety of methods and means in which to control and manipulate the masses. Persons usually refer to this subject as the 'Pisonian Conspiracy', which is NOT a title that we gave this - but rather what the ancient 'historian' Tacitus called it. The Pisos happened to be behind the composition of the New Testament, but the Pisos were not alone in this. In reality, this was simply an effort on the part of all royals who wanted to preserve and continue the practice of slavery. At the time, there were several royal houses at odds with each other over this issue and a long all-out war resulted. The New Testament was simply a 'solution' for the royals who wanted to retain the practice of slavery as well as to increase their power and control over the masses via ideologies given out in the New Testament in rhetorical form. They made full use of all that they had put into the New Testament.
http://members.iimetro.com.au/~hubbca/bible-e...
LGK

Preston, UK

#364 Dec 30, 2013
Truthseeker007 wrote:
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The consensus of many biblical historians put the dating of the earliest Gospel, that of Mark, at sometime after 70 C.E., and the last Gospel, John after 90 C.E.[Pagels, 1995; Helms]. This would make it some 40 years after the alleged crucifixion of Jesus that we have any Gospel writings that mention him! Elaine Pagels writes that "the first Christian gospel was probably written during the last year of the war, or the year it ended. Where it was written and by whom we do not know; the work is anonymous, although tradition attributes it to Mark..." [Pagels, 1995]
The traditional Church has portrayed the authors as the apostles Mark, Luke, Matthew, & John, but scholars know from critical textural research that there simply occurs no evidence that the gospel authors could have served as the apostles described in the Gospel stories. Yet even today, we hear priests and ministers describing these authors as the actual disciples of Christ. Many Bibles still continue to label the stories as "The Gospel according to St. Matthew," "St. Mark," "St. Luke," St. John." No apostle would have announced his own sainthood before the Church's establishment of sainthood. But one need not refer to scholars to determine the lack of evidence for authorship. As an experiment, imagine the Gospels without their titles. See if you can find out from the texts who wrote them; try to find their names.
http://www.nobeliefs.com/exist.htm
They made use of a wide variety of methods and means in which to control and manipulate the masses. Persons usually refer to this subject as the 'Pisonian Conspiracy', which is NOT a title that we gave this - but rather what the ancient 'historian' Tacitus called it. The Pisos happened to be behind the composition of the New Testament, but the Pisos were not alone in this. In reality, this was simply an effort on the part of all royals who wanted to preserve and continue the practice of slavery. At the time, there were several royal houses at odds with each other over this issue and a long all-out war resulted. The New Testament was simply a 'solution' for the royals who wanted to retain the practice of slavery as well as to increase their power and control over the masses via ideologies given out in the New Testament in rhetorical form. They made full use of all that they had put into the New Testament.
http://members.iimetro.com.au/~hubbca/bible-e...
Are we agreed the Bible wasn't written by the Council of Nacaea?

There's no shortage of scholars dating Gospels later & later dates or questioning authorship. On dating, I do an end run by ignoring the Gospels & focusing on Acts & Epistles from which the Gospel & Jesus' life can be re-constructed. Epistles James & Jude were written by Jesus' brothers. Paul wrote Thessalonians in 50AD after his visit to Thessalonica. Disciple Peter wrote Peter's epistles. Also Polycarp, who personally worked with disciple John, said John wrote the gospel. I'd say Polycarp was closer to John than Elaine Pagels.

I've read about the Pisos & it's very interesting. It is also untrue. Amongst other things, it can't account for undersigned coincidences into the N Testament. I can go through one of those if you like, they are a forensic test of forgery & demonstrate beyond a reasonable doubt that whoever wrote the Gospels was an eye witness.

I've come to the conclusion that there is no credible attack of the Bible. He's one question. Did Alexander the Great exist? There are no eye witnesses & the earliest accounts were written 500 years after his death.
LGK

Preston, UK

#365 Dec 30, 2013
NDanger wrote:
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Agreed! I've always stated "The message is still the same"! It's like they are some great sleuth that found something no one else is aware of and that they are going to turn Christianity on its head...
"Desperate measures for desperate people" I say...
Indeed. I heard Bart Ehrman eloquently saying Jesu's trials in the Gospels don't match & there's a question mark over how many women went to the grave. What he didn't realise was that a good lawyer could use this against him. Here's how:

(1) "So, prof Ehrmn, you are saying the authors got the trial times mixed up, you are not saying Jesus was not tried. In fact he was tried wasn't He?" I rest my case.

(2) "You are querying how many women went to the grave, not that some women went to the grave? Thank you professor!

Since: Nov 13

United States

#366 Dec 30, 2013
LGK:
You are correct that the writings wern't done at the Council. How can you conclude that the Piso's writing the New Testament is untrue? It is very true when you see how they left clues to they're authorships in the manuscripts. I will post some links for you if you consider to research this further down below.

First some facts about the Jesus story:
1.The Jesus story is an allegory. It’s a parable of the spiritual journey.
2.They're are uncanny parallels between pagan stories in the ancient world and the stories of Jesus.
3.No credible sources outside the Bible say Jesus existed.
4.The Apostle Paul never referred to a historical Jesus.
5.Josephus passage was tampered with by later Christian authors.
6.Josephus and Tacitus – they both thought Hercules was a true figure
Both of them spoke of Hercules as a figure that existed.
7.Everything we read about Jesus in the gospels conforms to the mythic hero.
8.There’s nothing left over that indicates that he was a real historical figure.
9.It’s probable that Jesus never really existed and that early Christians experienced a mythic Jesus who came to them through visions and revelations.
10.People “can have powerful religious experiences that don’t correspond to reality.”
11.The perfect model is Paul himself
12.He never met Jesus. Paul only had an encounter with this heavenly Jesus. Paul is completely converted by this religious experience, but no historical Jesus is needed for that to happen.
13.As for the passage where Paul says he met James, Jesus’ brother
The problem with that is that all baptized Christians were considered brothers of the Lord.”

Some Piso links for your research:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pd...

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopo...

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopo...

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopoliti...

http://www.fargonasphere.com/piso/

http://www.tektonics.org/lp/pisocake.html

http://www.angelfire.com/biz5/piso/djoke2.htm...

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopoliti...

Since: Nov 13

United States

#367 Dec 30, 2013
The Jesus story was deliberately written in such a way that it would fulfill the prophecies.

Very few people even dream that Josephus and his family wrote the New Testament, because the world is attuned to pondering Jesus in terms of "what did he mean," and not in terms of "who wrote the story." The opposite is the case regarding Shakespeare. People wonder, "who wrote Shakespeare," and not "what did he mean." If they reversed the questions, more would come through the veil, which is the mystery of the Gospel (Eph. 6.19)—that is, of its actual authorship— and would thereby find Jesus fact. And likewise more would find the numerous Inner Circle allusions and clues in the Shakespearean writings.

The way to pierce the veil is to ponder the NT and its brilliance, even though supposedly written by men so insignificant that nothing is known of them nor of their families outside the pages of the NT--and then to think,"Who could have written such a brilliant book, which shows such complete knowledge of the life and times of 1st century Judaea?" Then a person may think of all the Josephs in the story and of one of them being the reputed father of the baby. And if he has heard that writers have always written themselves into their stories, he may think of Josephus as the literary father of the baby and the creator of the story. Once he thinks of Josephus as the father of the baby and story, he may recall that Josephus in his Vita listed the names of his three sons. Studying the names of the three—Hyrcanus, Justus, and Simonides/Agrippa1—quickly
produces the names of the main disciples in the NT:

Read all of this here:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pd...

Since: Nov 13

United States

#368 Dec 30, 2013
The Hero Pattern:

Incidents which occur with regularity in hero-myths of all cultures:

1. Hero's mother is a royal virgin;
2. His father is a king, and
3. Often a near relative of his mother, but
4. The circumstances of his conception are unusual, and
5. He is also reputed to be the son of a god.
6. At birth an attempt is made, usually by his father or his maternal grand father to kill him, but
7. he is spirited away, and
8. Reared by foster -parents in a far country.
9. We are told nothing of his childhood, but
10. On reaching manhood he returns or goes to his future Kingdom.
11. After a victory over the king and/or a giant, dragon, or wild beast,
12. He marries a princess, often the daughter of his predecessor and
13. And becomes king.
14. For a time he reigns uneventfully and
15. Prescribes laws, but
16. Later he loses favor with the gods and/or his subjects, and
17. Is driven from the throne and city, after which
18. He meets with a mysterious death,
19. Often at the top of a hill,
20. His children, if any do not succeed him.
21. His body is not buried, but nevertheless
22. He has one or more holy sepulchres.

Jesus:

His mother, Mary, is (1) a royal virgin (descendant of King David), and his father is (2) Joseph, who is (3) her close relative. He is reported to be (5) the son of God, who (4) sends his Holy Spirit to Mary. At his birth King Herod (6) tries to kill him, but he and his parents (7) flee to Egypt. We are told (9) almost nothing of his childhood, but on reaching manhood he begins to enter (10) his future kingdom. He teaches successfully (14) for some time, prescribing (15) ways of behavior and belief. His enemies (16) persecute him, and he is executed (18) on top of a hill (19). He defeats the forces of evil (11) and eventually returns (10) to his heavenly kingdom. He has (20) no children to succeed him. His body is (21) not buried, but he has a sepulchre (22) in Jerusalem.

18 points
http://department.monm.edu/classics/Courses/C...

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#369 Dec 30, 2013
Truthseeker007 wrote:
The Hero Pattern:
Incidents which occur with regularity in hero-myths of all cultures:
1. Hero's mother is a royal virgin;
2. His father is a king, and
3. Often a near relative of his mother, but
4. The circumstances of his conception are unusual, and
5. He is also reputed to be the son of a god.
6. At birth an attempt is made, usually by his father or his maternal grand father to kill him, but
7. he is spirited away, and
8. Reared by foster -parents in a far country.
9. We are told nothing of his childhood, but
10. On reaching manhood he returns or goes to his future Kingdom.
11. After a victory over the king and/or a giant, dragon, or wild beast,
12. He marries a princess, often the daughter of his predecessor and
13. And becomes king.
14. For a time he reigns uneventfully and
15. Prescribes laws, but
16. Later he loses favor with the gods and/or his subjects, and
17. Is driven from the throne and city, after which
18. He meets with a mysterious death,
19. Often at the top of a hill,
20. His children, if any do not succeed him.
21. His body is not buried, but nevertheless
22. He has one or more holy sepulchres.
Jesus:
His mother, Mary, is (1) a royal virgin (descendant of King David), and his father is (2) Joseph, who is (3) her close relative. He is reported to be (5) the son of God, who (4) sends his Holy Spirit to Mary. At his birth King Herod (6) tries to kill him, but he and his parents (7) flee to Egypt. We are told (9) almost nothing of his childhood, but on reaching manhood he begins to enter (10) his future kingdom. He teaches successfully (14) for some time, prescribing (15) ways of behavior and belief. His enemies (16) persecute him, and he is executed (18) on top of a hill (19). He defeats the forces of evil (11) and eventually returns (10) to his heavenly kingdom. He has (20) no children to succeed him. His body is (21) not buried, but he has a sepulchre (22) in Jerusalem.
18 points
http://department.monm.edu/classics/Courses/C...
All you have proven is that you can copy and paste.

Since: Nov 13

United States

#370 Dec 30, 2013
LGK:
And there is even channeled material that had the same claims,They have been putting out material from Cosmic Awareness since1978.Yes I know you won't consider this material as valid but it will give you something else to consider,if you have a open mind as you say you do.

How the Jesus Myth was created:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopoliti...
Some excerpts from link:
This Awareness wishes to remind you that the story of Jesus, the first written word, was that which was put down some 80 years after his existence on this plane; that It wishes also to inform you that the composite known as the entity Jesus was that which was put together from a variety of information.

This Awareness indicates that even the New Testament is assembled from patterns related to stories taken from earlier sources, such as Zoroastrian, Mithrain, Krishna, Buddhism, and Egyptian, and others, in which many verses are literally paraphrasing earlier writings, and many of the stories attributed to the story of Jesus, were lifted directly out of these other writings.

This Awareness indicates that the combination of the many different Roman religious orders or organizations, the different religious sects, forming a composite in which the central heroic character was the Son of God, having 12 disciples, being born of a virgin, whose intent and purpose was to help save mankind, and for his efforts, the entity was slain and put upon a cross; the entity also having certain miraculous powers, including that of those who can heal by touch, or raise from the dead or move into states of suspended animation, such as some of the masters of India have demonstrated in various times throughout history.

The Piso Family Who Wrote the Books of the New Testament
This Awareness indicates that still other earlier information on the deception in the New Testament has to do who really wrote the books of the New Testament. This Awareness indicates that much of the information was written by a family, the Piso family, and there is information about these entities and how they coded their own works so that they received credit for the writing, and you can find these coded references in the New Testament which fits with the code of the various writers of the Piso family. This as having spawned a society, a secret society that down through the ages has passed this information to various people and which can still be found, and information on this is available and has been mentioned previously, with an address given to allow entities to find more information on this family who wrote the new testament.
These entities having gone through certain competition with each other at one point, whereby their own family competition regarding who will do what, created between them the need to couch their material in certain codes and certain numerical properties to assure that they always got the credit for the particular book of the New Testament which they wrote.

This Awareness indicates, for example, the books of Matthew, Mark, and John were not written by Matthew, Mark and John, but by different Piso family members, all of which is explained in the material that they make available to the public by writing to them. These entities not alive today, but the society preserving this information is still very much alive.
This Awareness indicates that even the Book of Revelation was written by the Piso family. This Awareness indicates that entities who wish to check this further can write to the address, and for five dollars receive a small booklet that explains much more in detail in regard to this family. There is also the opportunity for entities to join a membership of this organization if they so desire.

Since: Nov 13

United States

#371 Dec 30, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
<quoted text>All you have proven is that you can copy and paste.
Prove Mark 16:18 which says those who believe in the Gospels will be able to "lay their hands on the sick, and they shall recover." If this is true, then Christians would be able to go to any sick person anywhere and lay their Christian hands on them, and they would recover. The fact that we have millions of very sick people around the world tells us that either this Bible promise is false or that Christians really don't care about the sick, otherwise they would lay their hands on them and they would be healed! And if they could in fact heal people, there would be no need for doctors, nurses, hospitals, health care etc........
http://www.deism.com/challengetochristians.ht...

And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
http://biblehub.com/kjv/mark/16.htm

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#372 Dec 30, 2013
Truthseeker007 wrote:
<quoted text>
Prove Mark 16:18 which says those who believe in the Gospels will be able to "lay their hands on the sick, and they shall recover." If this is true, then Christians would be able to go to any sick person anywhere and lay their Christian hands on them, and they would recover. The fact that we have millions of very sick people around the world tells us that either this Bible promise is false or that Christians really don't care about the sick, otherwise they would lay their hands on them and they would be healed! And if they could in fact heal people, there would be no need for doctors, nurses, hospitals, health care etc........
http://www.deism.com/challengetochristians.ht...
And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
http://biblehub.com/kjv/mark/16.htm
Matthew 13:58 (NKJV)
58 Now He did not do many mighty works there because of their unbelief.

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Since: Dec 10

Planet Earth

#373 Dec 30, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
<quoted text>All you have proven is that you can copy and paste.
All you've proven is you're related Muslim poster.

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