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Soldier of Jesus Christ wrote: <quoted text> Did you lie or are you mistaken? Everything else talks about teachings that happened HUNDREDS OF YEARS after the Resurrection!!! It's not taught by the Word of God!!! Maybe you didn't read your sources well enough, I don't know. Or maybe you flat lied and don't care, I don't know. From the two sources you said, this is the only thing that mentions the year 80 AD. "Our sin will not be small if we eject from the episcopate those who blamelessly and holily have offered its sacrifices. Blessed are those presbyters who have already finished their course, and who have obtained a fruitful and perfect release" (Letter to the Corinthians 44:4–5 [A.D. 80]). Catholics believe that “transubstantiation” occurs when priests “bless” the bread and wine that the SUBSTANCE, of the bread and wine, becomes the body and blood of Jesus, while keeping only the APPEARANCE of bread and wine. This WHOLE TEACHING DIDN’T even EXIST during the first THOUSAND YEARS AFTER THE RESURRECTION!!! I repeat, this whole teaching DIDN’T even EXIST during the first THOUSAND YEARS AFTER THE RESURRECTION!!! The Catholic Church teaches... “The term transubstantiation seems to have been first used by Hildebert of Tours (about 1079). HIS encouraging EXAMPLE was soon FOLLOWED by other theologians, as Stephen of Autun (d. 1139), Gaufred (1188), and Peter of Blois (d. about 1200), whereupon several ecumenical councils also adopted this significant expression, as the Fourth Council of the Lateran (1215), and the Council of Lyons (1274), in the profession of faith of the Greek Emperor Michael Palæologus. The Council of Trent (Sess. XIII, cap. iv; can. ii) not only accepted as an inheritance of faith the truth contained in the idea, but authoritatively confirmed the "aptitude of the term" to express most strikingly the legitimately developed doctrinal concept.” http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05573a.htm#se ... Over ONE THOUSAND YEARS went by before “transubstantiation” was even taught or followed!!! The next time Jesus comes back (the REAL Presence) it will be in a cloud of Glory, not a piece of bread. Matthew 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not Matthew 24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. Matt 26:64Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. Mark 13:26And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory I Thess 4:17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Acts 1:11Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven Clouds of Glory are not man made bread. Sorry.
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christian rabbi wrote: <quoted text>I never said what you said I said and here is the proof. you wish to bring false accusations up against me tonight?
{{{{{I think it is much, much better that words read from a piece of paper.}}}}}
again, look closely at my words. I gave my opinion. I THINK it is much better. if you dont, I dont care
dont be so asinine. in no way did I elevate myself above any other person. here is the post. what is your problem? when a person will read it, i said that I dont think that I am even close to being the best of the best around here christian rabbi wrote: <quoted text>because I said in the original post that I wasnt that type of Preaching and I Prefer Spirit filled Preaching.{{{{{I think it is much, much better than words read from a piece of paper.}}}}} If you think otherwise, i dont care so why should you care if I prefer Good Gospel Preaching? BTW, I have only had two Pastors. the first was very, very good(a baptist), the second and last was the best that I have heard. and here in southern Ohio,we dont have to be ashamed of our Preachers,we have some of the best around, bar none. and I am not included in that list. and I know it. and I dont mind. Proverbs 29:23 A man's pride will bring him low, But a humble spirit will obtain honor. Matthew 23:12 "Whoever exalts himself shall be humbled; and whoever humbles himself shall be exalted.(1 hr ago | post #14084) Look at what you're saying <<<<<I Prefer Spirit filled Preaching.{{{{{I think it is much, much better than words read from a piece of paper.}}}}} You are saying that words read from a piece of paper can't be Spirit filled preaching.
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christian rabbi wrote: <quoted text>I never said what you said I said And what did I say you said?
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Peter Paul and Mary wrote: Hail, holy Queen enthroned above, O Maria.
Hail, Queen of mercy and of love, O Maria.
Triumph, all ye cherubim; Sing with us, ye seraphim.
Heav'n and earth resound the hymn:
Salve, salve, salve, Regina!
Ok now i'm going to bed...but with sweet hymns of Mary in my heart and on my mind. Sweet hymns of Mary the Holy Mother of God.
Primero Dios, First God...
y su madre quien me proteje, And His Mother who protects me. Lots of songs or poems or prayers to Mary, but when are you guys gonna do the same for Jesus?
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Dryad wrote: <quoted text>
Asinine is an insult. And I don't see how I'm pushing you. You keep putting down pastors who prepare sermons and I'm trying to defend them. Because I know that no matter what a pastor does to prepare or not prepare for a sermon - it is the anointing of the man that is important. Some men got it, some men don't. Some men can prepare all day, all month, or not at all and still have the Spirit - or not. It all depends on whether the man is preaching what God has given him or what he wants. And, of course, whether the man is even called. Like my Pastor. He's like you. He doesn't prepare much other than to read the Bible. But he just doesn't seem called. I can't recall a single sermon moving me. I love the guy, and he's a great boss. But I think he's called to be a youth leader instead of a preacher. you are mistaken, i didnt put any Preacher down, but I did lift up higher those who Preach under the Annointing. i prefer them much more, since that is the type that I am. and arent you judging him by inferring that he might not be called. you just accused me of that. Dryad, some are better Preachers than other. this is fact. How would you like to be a young preacher(in the Lord)and have to follow one of the best ever? Woody would preach in the morning and allow me to Preach on a Sunday night or vice versa and I would think I did okay, but then when he preached, I realized that I didnt and wasnt very good,and i knew that no matter how many years I Preached, I wouldnt come close to Him. But that didnt stop me, for the Lord had called me, and i kept on. and the last time I ever talked to him, he stopped by and apologized to me. he said that he didnt help me as much as he did the other young Preachers(and he didnt, but I got over it) and tears came into his eyes. and then he complimented me. He may not have helped me that much, but I had the pleasure of hearing the best Preacher in the world and sitting under his ministry. and that was the Lords Plan.
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sunnstorms wrote: <quoted text>
Lots of songs or poems or prayers to Mary, but when are you guys gonna do the same for Jesus? What are you still doing up? It's very late there (or very early)
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sunnstorms wrote: <quoted text>
Lots of songs or poems or prayers to Mary, but when are you guys gonna do the same for Jesus? http://youtube.com/watch... Be Thou my Vision, O Lord of my heart; Naught be all else to me, save that Thou art. Thou my best Thought, by day or by night, Waking or sleeping, Thy presence my light. Be Thou my Wisdom, and Thou my true Word; I ever with Thee and Thou with me, Lord; Thou my great Father, I Thy true son; Thou in me dwelling, and I with Thee one. Be Thou my battle Shield, Sword for the fight; Be Thou my Dignity, Thou my Delight; Thou my soul’s Shelter, Thou my high Tower: Raise Thou me heavenward, O Power of my power. Riches I heed not, nor man’s empty praise, Thou mine Inheritance, now and always: Thou and Thou only, first in my heart, High King of Heaven, my Treasure Thou art. High King of Heaven, my victory won, May I reach Heaven’s joys, O bright Heaven’s Sun! Heart of my own heart, whatever befall, Still be my Vision, O Ruler of all.
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christian rabbi wrote: <quoted text>you are mistaken, i didnt put any Preacher down, but I did lift up higher those who Preach under the Annointing. i prefer them much more, since that is the type that I am.
and arent you judging him by inferring that he might not be called. you just accused me of that.
Dryad, some are better Preachers than other. this is fact. How would you like to be a young preacher(in the Lord)and have to follow one of the best ever?
Woody would preach in the morning and allow me to Preach on a Sunday night or vice versa and I would think I did okay, but then when he preached, I realized that I didnt and wasnt very good,and i knew that no matter how many years I Preached, I wouldnt come close to Him. But that didnt stop me, for the Lord had called me, and i kept on. and the last time I ever talked to him, he stopped by and apologized to me. he said that he didnt help me as much as he did the other young Preachers(and he didnt, but I got over it) and tears came into his eyes.
and then he complimented me.
He may not have helped me that much, but I had the pleasure of hearing the best Preacher in the world and sitting under his ministry.
and that was the Lords Plan. See, there you are saying that those who don't preach like you aren't under the anointing. I didn;t say he wasn't called, I said it seemed like it. I expressed my opinion but I could be wrong. That's an opinion. YOU on the other hand state as fact that preachers who write their sermon are not under the anointing. How is that right? How can you possibly know something that only God knows?
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Dryad wrote: <quoted text>
Forgot to thank you for the compliment - thank you. You are welcome. if you got the nerve, my email addy is redwax_2@yahoo.com. I will send you a tape, you listen and then decide if I am a Preacher. I actually have the very first tape that I made for my radio program. My sister died last year and she had a copy of it, and it was found and given to me. I sent karen a copy of a message that I preached,and it didnt harm her. Of course, then you will know why I said that I am not one of the best around here. But I try.(not to be the best)
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Jesus Christ is the best preacher ever in the world!
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http://youtube.com/watch... Who taught the sun where to stand in the morning? And who told the ocean you can only come this far? And who showed the moon where to hide till evening? Whose words alone can catch a falling star? Chorus: Well I know my Redeemer lives I know my Redeemer lives All of creation testifies This life within me cries I know my Redeemer lives Ye-e-eah The very same God That spins things in orbit Runs to the weary, the worn and the weak And the same gentle hands that hold me when I'm broken They conquered death to bring me victory Now I know, my Redeemer lives I know my Redeemer lives Let all creation testify Let this life within me cry I-I-I know My Redeemer He lives To take away my shame And He lives Forever I'll proclaim That the payment for my sins Was the precious life He gave And now He's alive and There's an empty Grave! And I know My Redeemer lives He lives I know My Redeemer lives Let all creation testify Let this life within me cry I-I-I know my Redeemer I know My Redeemer lives *I know my Redeemer lives* *I know, That I know, that I know, that I know, that I know He lives *my redeemer lives* *Because He lives I can face tomorrow He lives *I know, I know* He lives *I spoke with Him this morning!* He lives *The tomb is empty* He lives *He Lives! I'm going to tell everybody!!*
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http://youtube.com/watch... The splendor of the King, clothed in majesty Let all the earth rejoice All the earth rejoice He wraps himself in Light, and darkness tries to hide And trembles at His voice Trembles at His voice How great is our God, sing with me How great is our God, and all will see How great, how great is our God Age to age He stands And time is in His hands Beginning and the end Beginning and the end The Godhead Three in One Father Spirit Son The Lion and the Lamb The Lion and the Lamb How great is our God, sing with me How great is our God, and all will see How great, how great is our God Name above all names Worthy of all praise My heart will sing How great is our God Name above all names Worthy of all praise My heart will sing How great is our God How great is our God, sing with me How great is our God, and all will see How great, how great is our God
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Dryad wrote: <quoted text>
Look at what you're saying
<<<<<I Prefer Spirit filled Preaching.{{{{{I think it is much, much better than words read from a piece of paper.}}}}}
You are saying that words read from a piece of paper can't be Spirit filled preaching. LOL. I did not now look at this post and show me where I said that, because i dont see it.
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christian rabbi wrote: <quoted text>You are welcome.
if you got the nerve, my email addy is redwax_2@yahoo.com. I will send you a tape, you listen and then decide if I am a Preacher. I actually have the very first tape that I made for my radio program. My sister died last year and she had a copy of it, and it was found and given to me. I sent karen a copy of a message that I preached,and it didnt harm her.
Of course, then you will know why I said that I am not one of the best around here.
But I try.(not to be the best) I never doubted that you are a preacher. And I never doubted that you are anointed by God. I never said otherwise. This whole time, I have been trying to get across that other men do it differently and are also anointed and are capable of Spirit filled preaching - even if they read strait from the Bible or prepare a sermon the night before. Because it's not in the words, it's in the man. I can e-mail you, and it doesn't take nerve.
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Dryad wrote: <quoted text>
See, there you are saying that those who don't preach like you aren't under the anointing.
I didn;t say he wasn't called, I said it seemed like it. I expressed my opinion but I could be wrong. That's an opinion. YOU on the other hand state as fact that preachers who write their sermon are not under the anointing. How is that right? How can you possibly know something that only God knows? show me where I said that. you have been saying I said things and i show you the posts and the words you use are not what i say. so lets see that factual statement! the onus is on you
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I ain't afraid of your Yahweh
I ain't afraid of your Allah
I ain't afraid of your Jesus
I'm afraid of what you do in the name of your god
I ain't afraid of your churches
I ain't afraid of your temples
I ain't afraid of your praying
I'm afraid of what you do in the name of your god
Rise up to your higher power
Free up from fear, it will devour you
Watch out for the ego of the hour
The ones who say they know it
Are the ones who will impose it on you
Rise up, and see a higher story
Free up from the gods of war and glory
Watch out for the threats of purgatory
The spirit of the wind wont make a killing off of sin and satan
I aint afraid of your Bible
I aint afraid of your Torah
I aint afraid of your Koran
Dont let the letter of the law
Obscure the spirit of your love it's killing us
I aint afraid of your money
I aint afraid of your borders
I aint afraid of your choices
I aint afraid of your Sunday
I aint afraid of your Sabbath
I aint afraid of your teachers
I aint afraid of your dances
I aint afraid of your music
I aint afraid of your children
I'm afraid of what you do in the name of your god
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christian rabbi wrote: <quoted text>LOL. I did not
now look at this post and show me where I said that, because i dont see it. Look at it. <<<<<I Prefer Spirit filled Preaching.{{{{{I think it is much, much better than words read from a piece of paper.}}}}} Now take out all those squigglies I Prefer Spirit filled Preaching, I think it is much, much better than words read from a piece of paper.
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Good night dryad. it is 3:00 here in Ohio, and i am going to bed. If you want to hear some very good Spirit filled Preaching, drop me a line and i will be glad to Bless your soul, through the Lord Blessing my Preaching by His annointing. PS, I have studied very much, that is why I can be instant in season and out of season. I can preach Jesus Christ Because I KNOW Him
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Dryad wrote: <quoted text>
I've had Pastors do that. A Pastor should always be ready to move where the Spirit leads - as we all should in our own ministries - but that doesn't mean the one on the paper wasn't also inspried by the Spirit. That's what I'm trying to get across. If a pastor refuses to let the Spirit lead, he is standing in the way of God. And causing the flock to miss out. I do believe that the Holy Spirit can prepare a message ahead of time, and if so, it will be delivered...unless there is a more urgent need for a different one.
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Dryad wrote: <quoted text>
Look at it.
<<<<<I Prefer Spirit filled Preaching.{{{{{I think it is much, much better than words read from a piece of paper.}}}}}
Now take out all those squigglies
I Prefer Spirit filled Preaching, I think it is much, much better than words read from a piece of paper. I put them in so you could easily spot them. You dont allow me to type in caps. And I am not saying as you said that I told you they were not annointed.{{{no mention of annointing}}}
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