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Angry God: Evangelicals Losing Influence on American Politics

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Since: Sep 08

Chicago, IL

#1 Sep 23, 2012
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/06/23/1102...

The difficulty I have with evangelicals is not their religion or even their opposition to many of the things they care about, such as abortion or even gay marriage. The problem I have with evangelicals or Christian conservatives in other words, is their demand that America’s laws reflect their own religious beliefs.

Evangelicals have had an impact on American politics for quite some time but now their power is waning. A Pew Research survey shows that 82 percent of Americans think that evangelicals are losing their influence in America.

I also sense that Evangelicals know they’re losing their grip but I also sense they have no clue of why, except to maybe blame the evil machinations of Democrats and liberals. I believe they’re losing their grip because a divided house will not stand, which is by the way, a biblical teaching.

The divided house I refer to is the Republican Party. Within this party we have the different segments, the same as the Democrats but there is a glaring difference. The Democrats’ different segments – African-Americans, Hispanic-Americans, gay people, women and young people – do not contradict each other.

The GOP on the other hand is made up of social conservatives and fiscal conservatives. They have the gun enthusiast and the evangelicals, the Libertarians and the war enthusiast – all solid members of the Republican Party.

Another member of the GOP, which is actually a very small minority within the party, is the super-wealthy. This group of members actually has more say-so than any of the other groups and that’s because they have resources, resources that campaign-fund-hungry politicians need so desperately.

Evangelicals are losing influence because the interests of the super-wealthy are not always the same or in line with evangelicals’ interests.

Still, elected Republicans know that if they’re to win elections, they must at least seem to appease religious conservatives and the gun enthusiast and all the other factions of their party. But in the end, the super-wealthy will have it their way.

Being a Christian, I know there are a lot of sincere people who are evangelicals and they believe in what they stand for. But I must also admonish evangelicals; trying to bring Christ to the nation through political activism is not the way of Jesus.

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Born again evangelicals are being kicked out of the republican party as unwanted flies buzzing around...they are not useful anymore..and soon, with all the Arab money given to republicans in this election, will be replaced by Muslim for faith-based monies, as well.

“Shoot for the stars”

Since: Dec 10

Planet Earth

#2 Sep 23, 2012
Cookie_Parker wrote:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/ 2012/06/23/1102514/-Angry-God- Evangelicals-Losing-Influence- on-American-Politics
The difficulty I have with evangelicals is not their religion or even their opposition to many of the things they care about, such as abortion or even gay marriage. The problem I have with evangelicals or Christian conservatives in other words, is their demand that America’s laws reflect their own religious beliefs.
Evangelicals have had an impact on American politics for quite some time but now their power is waning. A Pew Research survey shows that 82 percent of Americans think that evangelicals are losing their influence in America.
I also sense that Evangelicals know they’re losing their grip but I also sense they have no clue of why, except to maybe blame the evil machinations of Democrats and liberals. I believe they’re losing their grip because a divided house will not stand, which is by the way, a biblical teaching.
The divided house I refer to is the Republican Party. Within this party we have the different segments, the same as the Democrats but there is a glaring difference. The Democrats’ different segments – African-Americans, Hispanic-Americans, gay people, women and young people – do not contradict each other.
The GOP on the other hand is made up of social conservatives and fiscal conservatives. They have the gun enthusiast and the evangelicals, the Libertarians and the war enthusiast – all solid members of the Republican Party.
Another member of the GOP, which is actually a very small minority within the party, is the super-wealthy. This group of members actually has more say-so than any of the other groups and that’s because they have resources, resources that campaign-fund-hungry politicians need so desperately.
Evangelicals are losing influence because the interests of the super-wealthy are not always the same or in line with evangelicals’ interests.
Still, elected Republicans know that if they’re to win elections, they must at least seem to appease religious conservatives and the gun enthusiast and all the other factions of their party. But in the end, the super-wealthy will have it their way.
Being a Christian, I know there are a lot of sincere people who are evangelicals and they believe in what they stand for. But I must also admonish evangelicals; trying to bring Christ to the nation through political activism is not the way of Jesus.
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Born again evangelicals are being kicked out of the republican party as unwanted flies buzzing around...they are not useful anymore..and soon, with all the Arab money given to republicans in this election, will be replaced by Muslim for faith-based monies, as well.
Well stated! The GOP ignores and disrespects the separation of state and church and disrespects all Americans who are not Christian. Favoring one religion over all others is discrimination

NDanger

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Since: Nov 10

You can't get there from here.

#3 Sep 23, 2012
Earth Child 1 wrote:
<quoted text>Well stated! The GOP ignores and disrespects the separation of state and church and disrespects all Americans who are not Christian. Favoring one religion over all others is discrimination
You forgot to use "racists" and "bigots"...

“ ILKS r kewl ”

Since: Apr 09

Conch republic

#4 Sep 23, 2012
NDanger wrote:
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You forgot to use "racists" and "bigots"...
You're a part of that group aren't you? Being a GOP'er, you should know the demographics of you all well!

“Invisible Pink Unicorn”

Since: May 08

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#5 Sep 23, 2012
NDanger wrote:
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You forgot to use "racists" and "bigots"...
OOPS!!!Your TRUE colors are showing.

NDanger

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Since: Nov 10

You can't get there from here.

#7 Sep 24, 2012
Jammercolo wrote:
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OOPS!!!Your TRUE colors are showing.
Seriously? I just recognize the "bandwagon" when I see one...

NDanger

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Since: Nov 10

You can't get there from here.

#8 Sep 24, 2012
Troth for Leogere wrote:
<quoted text>You're a part of that group aren't you? Being a GOP'er, you should know the demographics of you all well!
And what "group" would that be? One of the 53%?
Tickedoffchick

Enfield, CT

#9 Sep 24, 2012
Troth for Leogere wrote:
<quoted text>You're a part of that group aren't you? Being a GOP'er, you should know the demographics of you all well!
Minor correction, Troth. It's "ya'll" and the plural is "all ya'll".

NDanger

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Since: Nov 10

You can't get there from here.

#10 Sep 24, 2012
Tickedoffchick wrote:
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Minor correction, Troth. It's "ya'll" and the plural is "all ya'll".
Is that like my German Mother living in OK?(pron-YaVole) JaVoll Ya'll

“ ILKS r kewl ”

Since: Apr 09

Conch republic

#11 Sep 24, 2012
NDanger wrote:
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And what "group" would that be? One of the 53%?
Ya'll are NDANGERWILLROBINSON of losing it all.. ya'll have already lost your minds, your conscience and your intelligence (not that ya'll had any to begin with)
Tickedoffchick

Enfield, CT

#12 Sep 24, 2012
NDanger wrote:
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Is that like my German Mother living in OK?(pron-YaVole) JaVoll Ya'll
LOL! Yeah, kinda' sorta' sounds like that. I just learned a new Cajun word, "sha". It's a term of affection. It means sweet, darling, honey, etc.
Punisher

Massapequa, NY

#13 Sep 24, 2012
Well don't expect the Evangelicals going out without a fight. They still have a lot of Wealthy supporters...

NDanger

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Since: Nov 10

You can't get there from here.

#14 Sep 24, 2012
Punisher wrote:
Well don't expect the Evangelicals going out without a fight. They still have a lot of Wealthy supporters...
Man, you sure are ignorant...

Since: Sep 08

Chicago, IL

#15 Sep 24, 2012
NDanger wrote:
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Seriously? I just recognize the "bandwagon" when I see one...
No, your god in your head is quite verbal about the hatred you worship...it came out because racism and bigotry are part of your god in your head's beliefs.

Since: Sep 08

Chicago, IL

#16 Sep 24, 2012
Punisher wrote:
Well don't expect the Evangelicals going out without a fight. They still have a lot of Wealthy supporters...
Ah, but when the world hates them and ignores them, the wealthy will realize they don't have a cause anymore and go live in Dhu Bhai where the republicans who robbed this nation are living.
Punisher

Massapequa, NY

#17 Sep 24, 2012
NDanger wrote:
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Man, you sure are ignorant...
You do nothing but toss out these one-liners. Care to show me where and how I'm ignorant. Are you saying the Koch Bros are not wealthy?

NDanger

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Since: Nov 10

You can't get there from here.

#18 Sep 24, 2012
Cookie_Parker wrote:
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No, your god in your head is quite verbal about the hatred you worship...it came out because racism and bigotry are part of your god in your head's beliefs.
Well Cluckie, I don't worship hate, it's you that hates Worship...my head's fine, it's yours I'm concerned about...

NDanger

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Since: Nov 10

You can't get there from here.

#19 Sep 24, 2012
Punisher wrote:
<quoted text>You do nothing but toss out these one-liners. Care to show me where and how I'm ignorant. Are you saying the Koch Bros are not wealthy?
Do you think the "Religionists" run this country or the rich? You make is sound like everyone is in bed with everyone... not true.

Albeit "Anyone" will do "anything" when it comes to Politics...

Since: Sep 08

Chicago, IL

#20 Sep 26, 2012
NDanger wrote:
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Well Cluckie, I don't worship hate, it's you that hates Worship...my head's fine, it's yours I'm concerned about...
You call someone a name and then say "I don't worship hate."

ROFLMAO!!!

Classic...just classic.

Since: Sep 08

Chicago, IL

#21 Sep 26, 2012
NDanger wrote:
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Do you think the "Religionists" run this country or the rich? You make is sound like everyone is in bed with everyone... not true.
Albeit "Anyone" will do "anything" when it comes to Politics...
Care to explain this with solid examples? Or are you winging it from your preacherman?

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