The variety in xtianity

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Frank

Fayetteville, NC

#1 Jan 15, 2013
Lol, you know--we can't all be right.

Look at the differences between the beliefs held by the many denominations, sects, and sub-sects that base their beliefs upon the bible. Who's right?

Now, naturally, catholicism is excluded from the possibility of being the truth because, as we all know, it's basically a different religion altogether, much of it a combination of paganism and man-made doctrine which is far, far away from what is in scripture...but what about everyone else?

Doesn't it seem like G-d would have made the truth a bit more easy to comprehend? Seriously, how do you know your's is the truth?

Shalom
Greek Road

West Columbia, SC

#2 Jan 15, 2013
Frank wrote:
Lol, you know--we can't all be right.
Look at the differences between the beliefs held by the many denominations, sects, and sub-sects that base their beliefs upon the bible. Who's right?
Now, naturally, catholicism is excluded from the possibility of being the truth because, as we all know, it's basically a different religion altogether, much of it a combination of paganism and man-made doctrine which is far, far away from what is in scripture...but what about everyone else?
Doesn't it seem like G-d would have made the truth a bit more easy to comprehend? Seriously, how do you know your's is the truth?
Shalom
You're right, you can't all be right but you can all be wrong. That's a fairly ridiculous statement you made about Catholics. They were the only denomination for 1500 years till Martin Luther's dumb *ss came along. Now we have thousands of denominations that are all based off the original Catholics? So you say Catholicism was a man made paganism copy cat that lasted 1500 years then one of the thousands of sects that copied it is the real deal we just have to figure out which one it is? LMAO

“Life Force One”

Since: Jul 07

The Spiritual Universe

#3 Jan 15, 2013
Frank wrote:
Lol, you know--we can't all be right.
Look at the differences between the beliefs held by the many denominations, sects, and sub-sects that base their beliefs upon the bible. Who's right?
Now, naturally, catholicism is excluded from the possibility of being the truth because, as we all know, it's basically a different religion altogether, much of it a combination of paganism and man-made doctrine which is far, far away from what is in scripture...but what about everyone else?
Doesn't it seem like G-d would have made the truth a bit more easy to comprehend? Seriously, how do you know your's is the truth?
Shalom
Geez...

You keep starting threads to bash an ever growing list of the groups of people you hate. So why don't you just start a thread titled something like "Frank hates everybody" or "Frank hates the world", and get it over with.

“so tell me......”

Since: Aug 08

Location hidden

#4 Jan 16, 2013
Frank wrote:
Lol, you know--we can't all be right.
Look at the differences between the beliefs held by the many denominations, sects, and sub-sects that base their beliefs upon the bible. Who's right?
Now, naturally, catholicism is excluded from the possibility of being the truth because, as we all know, it's basically a different religion altogether, much of it a combination of paganism and man-made doctrine which is far, far away from what is in scripture...but what about everyone else?
Doesn't it seem like G-d would have made the truth a bit more easy to comprehend? Seriously, how do you know your's is the truth?
Shalom
Years ago I heard a song that fits my feelings on the matter.

"I don't care which Church you belong to,
If on Calvarys side you will stand.
And if you love the Lord just as I do,
Then brother give me your hand."
Cujo

Regina, Canada

#5 Jan 16, 2013
Frank wrote:
Lol, you know--we can't all be right.
Look at the differences between the beliefs held by the many denominations, sects, and sub-sects that base their beliefs upon the bible. Who's right?
Now, naturally, catholicism is excluded from the possibility of being the truth because, as we all know, it's basically a different religion altogether, much of it a combination of paganism and man-made doctrine which is far, far away from what is in scripture...but what about everyone else?
Doesn't it seem like G-d would have made the truth a bit more easy to comprehend? Seriously, how do you know your's is the truth?
Shalom
If all 30,000 denomiations can't be right, it is more likely you are ALL wrong! Reason and logic wins, everytime.
Frank

Fayetteville, NC

#6 Jan 16, 2013
Greek Road wrote:
<quoted text>You're right, you can't all be right but you can all be wrong. That's a fairly ridiculous statement you made about Catholics. They were the only denomination for 1500 years till Martin Luther's dumb *ss came along. Now we have thousands of denominations that are all based off the original Catholics? So you say Catholicism was a man made paganism copy cat that lasted 1500 years then one of the thousands of sects that copied it is the real deal we just have to figure out which one it is? LMAO
I agree, it's entirely possible that we're all wrong (though I doubt it), however--having read the scriptures and studied catholicism and "church" history--I stand by my opinion that Catholicism is the farthest from the truth and not worthy of consideration--not to insult others, but I think that it's quite obvious, lol.

As for your statement that the others "copied" catholicism--not really. Some did but not all. The fact that Catholicism was the main church for 1500 years doesn't make it right. Though I disagree with the fact that most protestants continue to worship Yeshuah instead of G-d, it can't be denied that at least some of them have brought their beliefs more into accordance with what the bible actually says. I mean, allowing a painting of G-d in a place in which the G-d of Israel is supposedly worshipped, praying to saints and saying hail-Mary's and so forth don't come from the bible at all, ya know, hence my view on Catholicism.

But anyways, what about the rest of us? Again, it seems like G-d would have made the truth a bit more clear if it's indeed the truth..or, then again, maybe He made the truth perfectly clear but men have totally butchered it according to their own desires.
Frank

Fayetteville, NC

#7 Jan 16, 2013
Seentheotherside wrote:
<quoted text>
Geez...
You keep starting threads to bash an ever growing list of the groups of people you hate. So why don't you just start a thread titled something like "Frank hates everybody" or "Frank hates the world", and get it over with.
Thanks for the idea, here's one for you: Why don't you head-butt the wall 15-20 times for me, huh? Or better yet--since you've personally met G-d and know everything---why not start your very own cult? Yeah, you're wasting your talents on the internet, I'm sure that there are many naive drug-addled people in this country whom would welcome your message.



Shalom

“Life Force One”

Since: Jul 07

The Spiritual Universe

#8 Jan 16, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree, it's entirely possible that we're all wrong (though I doubt it), however--having read the scriptures and studied catholicism and "church" history--I stand by my opinion that Catholicism is the farthest from the truth and not worthy of consideration--not to insult others, but I think that it's quite obvious, lol.
As for your statement that the others "copied" catholicism--not really. Some did but not all. The fact that Catholicism was the main church for 1500 years doesn't make it right. Though I disagree with the fact that most protestants continue to worship Yeshuah instead of G-d, it can't be denied that at least some of them have brought their beliefs more into accordance with what the bible actually says. I mean, allowing a painting of G-d in a place in which the G-d of Israel is supposedly worshipped, praying to saints and saying hail-Mary's and so forth don't come from the bible at all, ya know, hence my view on Catholicism.
But anyways, what about the rest of us? Again, it seems like G-d would have made the truth a bit more clear if it's indeed the truth..or, then again, maybe He made the truth perfectly clear but men have totally butchered it according to their own desires.
That's >>>FUNNY<<<!

The Catholic church started Christianity and gave you the bible. And for some 1500 years was the ONLY Christian church, keeping the "teachings" and religion passed on.

Then suddenly, out of nowhere, come the Protestants, Ta-Da here we are, the REAL Christians. LMFAO

So they take the book of lies/bible and pervert it beyond belief with their own made up crap/lies, calling the Catholic crap, all lies. Putting themselves above God, saying they are the "REAL" Christians and then mold their "god" into what THEY want him to be.

“Life Force One”

Since: Jul 07

The Spiritual Universe

#9 Jan 16, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks for the idea, here's one for you: Why don't you head-butt the wall 15-20 times for me, huh? Or better yet--since you've personally met G-d and know everything---why not start your very own cult? Yeah, you're wasting your talents on the internet, I'm sure that there are many naive drug-addled people in this country whom would welcome your message.
Shalom
Which has nothing to do with my post. So here, try again:

"Geez...

You keep starting threads to bash an ever growing list of the groups of people you hate. So why don't you just start a thread titled something like "Frank hates everybody" or "Frank hates the world", and get it over with."
Frank

Fayetteville, NC

#10 Jan 16, 2013
Seentheotherside wrote:
<quoted text>
That's >>>FUNNY<<<!
The Catholic church started Christianity and gave you the bible. And for some 1500 years was the ONLY Christian church, keeping the "teachings" and religion passed on.
Then suddenly, out of nowhere, come the Protestants, Ta-Da here we are, the REAL Christians. LMFAO
So they take the book of lies/bible and pervert it beyond belief with their own made up crap/lies, calling the Catholic crap, all lies. Putting themselves above God, saying they are the "REAL" Christians and then mold their "god" into what THEY want him to be.
Seen, it's common knowledge that hail-marys's and so forth weren't taught by Yeshuah and the gang, ya know? Heck, honest catholics will TELL you that the Catholic church made up and added all sorts of stuff to the religion, the thing being that they believe that the Catholic church actually has the authority to do so---whereas many protestants would prefer to practice what's in the bible.

And I don't "hate" anyone per se, however hatred-like other human emotions--is appropiate and perfectly healthy in some situations, it has it's purpose.

Shalom
Darius

Long Beach, CA

#11 Jan 16, 2013
Frank wrote:
Lol, you know--we can't all be right.
Look at the differences between the beliefs held by the many denominations, sects, and sub-sects that base their beliefs upon the bible. Who's right?
Now, naturally, catholicism is excluded from the possibility of being the truth because, as we all know, it's basically a different religion altogether, much of it a combination of paganism and man-made doctrine which is far, far away from what is in scripture...but what about everyone else?
Doesn't it seem like G-d would have made the truth a bit more easy to comprehend? Seriously, how do you know your's is the truth?
Shalom
Talmudic Judaism is a humanistic religion too.
Darius

Long Beach, CA

#12 Jan 16, 2013
angelinaUK wrote:
<quoted text>Years ago I heard a song that fits my feelings on the matter.
"I don't care which Church you belong to,
If on Calvarys side you will stand.
And if you love the Lord just as I do,
Then brother give me your hand."
The tv preacher says,
I do care which church you belong to,
if on my side you will stand.
And if you love money just as I do,
then brother give me a grand.

“Life Force One”

Since: Jul 07

The Spiritual Universe

#13 Jan 16, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>
Seen, it's common knowledge that hail-marys's and so forth weren't taught by Yeshuah and the gang, ya know? Heck, honest catholics will TELL you that the Catholic church made up and added all sorts of stuff to the religion, the thing being that they believe that the Catholic church actually has the authority to do so---whereas many protestants would prefer to practice what's in the bible.
And I don't "hate" anyone per se, however hatred-like other human emotions--is appropiate and perfectly healthy in some situations, it has it's purpose.
Shalom
But you miss the point that YOU and your heretical beliefs are no better. You may CLAIM the book of lies says this or that BY ADDING YOUR OWN SELF SERVING INTERPRETATION TO IT. Which is no better than what you CLAIM the Catholics do.

It's like saying YOUR lies are better than their lies.

“so tell me......”

Since: Aug 08

Location hidden

#14 Jan 16, 2013
Darius wrote:
<quoted text>The tv preacher says,
I do care which church you belong to,
if on my side you will stand.
And if you love money just as I do,
then brother give me a grand.
Very good and sadly true.
Frank

Fayetteville, NC

#15 Jan 17, 2013
Darius wrote:
<quoted text>Talmudic Judaism is a humanistic religion too.
Yea, that's right.
Frank

Fayetteville, NC

#16 Jan 17, 2013
Seentheotherside wrote:
<quoted text>
But you miss the point that YOU and your heretical beliefs are no better. You may CLAIM the book of lies says this or that BY ADDING YOUR OWN SELF SERVING INTERPRETATION TO IT. Which is no better than what you CLAIM the Catholics do.
It's like saying YOUR lies are better than their lies.
Heretical to YOU. You claim that it's heretical but that's your belief, however it may be that we're correct and everyone else are the heretics.
Darius

Long Beach, CA

#17 Jan 17, 2013
angelinaUK wrote:
<quoted text>Very good and sadly true.
Not all tv preachers are dishonest. But those who preach prosperity are criminals.

“so tell me......”

Since: Aug 08

Location hidden

#18 Jan 18, 2013
Darius wrote:
<quoted text>Not all tv preachers are dishonest. But those who preach prosperity are criminals.
Criminals and parasites.
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#19 Jan 18, 2013
Same goes for faith healers.
angelinaUK wrote:
<quoted text>Criminals and parasites.

“so tell me......”

Since: Aug 08

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#20 Jan 18, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Same goes for faith healers.
<quoted text>
If they charge people money then yes I agree.

If I had a gift of healing (and I believe some people do) then I would do it for free.

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