Proof we have a soul.
lol

Welch, WV

#895 Sep 6, 2013
little lamb wrote:
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Yes it is very interesting ..because i believe 'time' is only relative while we are living
When we die and are resurrected , we are not going to be conscious of any time passing.
It says of Enoch , that he was transferred so as not to 'see' death...i found that word 'transferred , interesting...seeing that god knows the beginning to the end.
Whether a person has been dead thousands of years or for one hour..in the resurrection it will be just like they died and next minute are awake with Jesus..time means nothing ..time is only for the living.
I have heard that before. After you die it will seem like you are asleep only a few minutes before you are resurrected. I just have not found that in the bible.

Like it says in Thessalonians, those who have fell "asleep" in Christ, He will BRING WITH HIM. Are you overlooking that? They are ALREADY with Him when He returns and no, not ONLY their spirit but their whole Soul/Spirit. If you believe the soul IS the blood then it dries up and turns to dust. Or what about the process of embalming? The blood is drained from the body and disposed of.

I do not believe the story of Lazarus and the rich man Dives is a parable. I believe it is a true story of what happens when one dies. Lazarus was in Paradise. Dives was on the other side of the gulf. There is a separation after death. The saints are in Abraham's Bosom, Paradise.

The unrepentant are held in some other abode. So, they "dead" know where they are and what is going on. They are not asleep.
lol

Welch, WV

#896 Sep 6, 2013
HighlyEvolved wrote:
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Thank YOU for providing the model for self-professed Christians: arrogant, hypocritical, self-righteous, and condescending.
Thank you for providing the model of a foolish atheist.

Arrogant, hypocritical, self-righteous, and condescending.

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#897 Sep 6, 2013
little lamb wrote:
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MMMM interesting question..Because I believe the soul is the blood..
I believe the blood does not come to life until the spirit is breathed into it.
Scripture says God breathed into the nostrils of Adam, and he became a living soul.
So the soul needs the spirit to live..
In the blood there is a precise level of oxygen that has to be maintained for life...
Quote .....
"Previously it has been found that many patients died from blood transfusions because the blood after it had been taken from the body was not oxygenated...
the problem is that the oxygen-transporting efficacy of stored blood begins to decay almost immediately.
This is because stored red blood cells become deficient in nitric "
oxide, thus limiting their ability to get oxygen to tissues that need it -"
this is interesting finding because it shows the 'spirit' the breath, the oxygen is needed to have healthy blood...to be a living soul...
When the spirit goes back to God..a person exhales and slowly the blood decays...life leaves the body...
When someone posts something that is untrue, I am compelled to point it out.

The level of oxygen in our blood is not always at the same level. Normal blood oxygen levels for the average American is about 88 to 100 percent oxygen saturation. This means that your body is getting enough oxygen if your levels fall somewhere in this range.

That means that for any given person, at times their blood oxygen level will be at 90 percent, and at times it will be 98, or 92, or 100, or 88.

IT IS NOT ALWAYS THE SAME.

So, according to your belief, the "soul" fluctuates. When people are at higher elevations, their blood oxygen level falls. So, the higher up you go, the less "soul" you have, according to your belief.

Obesity can lower the level too, so I guess fat people have less "soul" than people who are thin.

When you exercise your levels increase. So I guess working out is a "soul enhancing" activity.

It's possible to lose 15% of your blood and not suffer any serious side effects. So, you can lose 15% of your "soul" and nothing happens. Where does that 15% go? To heaven? Into your shoes?

When you get a blood transfusion you're getting someone else's blood. Are you also sharing their "soul"? Are you and the donor "soul mates"?

You are a moron. So are your fellow "children" if they believe your nonsense.

I am sorry, but it's a fact.

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#898 Sep 6, 2013
little lamb wrote:
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Dear children...lesson for today..
Here we have a person who is communicating his ideas to people he doesn't know
Please notice what people who are evolutionists, tend to be like...we don't have to be impressed by great knowledge..we can all of us however observe behavior.
I believe that the evolution stronghold, produces men, with no fear of God..therefore they believe that insulting speech and addressing people in derogatory terms , is alright..
because in their eyes a person is a piece of evolutionary chance..easy come and easy gone
Now children the benefits of having fear of god before our eyes..means that when we look at another, we see ourself..and we should treat others how we would like them to treat us.
So now children , let us thank mr higher evolution for producing a model that we can all learn from..thank you most kindly..
Any questions...?
For the record, here's how you began this thread, with Post #1:

"Highly Evolved made a stupid statement."

You want civil discourse? Don't begin a conversation by calling me, or my statements, "stupid."

You started this fight using derogatory and insulting language. How dare you criticize ME for doing what YOU did first.

I was exactly right about you: you're a self-righteous, condescending, arrogant hypocrite.

You're probably the least "Christian" person on this forum. If your behavior is the result of being filled with the Spirit, and your behavior is no different from mine, then being filled with the Spirit is meaningless.

Thank you for proving my point.

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#899 Sep 6, 2013
lol wrote:
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Thank you for providing the model of a foolish atheist.
Arrogant, hypocritical, self-righteous, and condescending.
What can you model, Wayne, one-legged pants? LOL.

You're the one who experimented - foolishly - with gay sex. And you call ME a fool?

You're the one who pissed God off so badly that he took your leg. I still have both of mine, so I guess God favors me.

Me, an atheist!

Oh, the f*cking irony...
little lamb

South Yarra, Australia

#900 Sep 6, 2013
HighlyEvolved wrote:
<quoted text>
When someone posts something that is untrue, I am compelled to point it out.
The level of oxygen in our blood is not always at the same level. Normal blood oxygen levels for the average American is about 88 to 100 percent oxygen saturation. This means that your body is getting enough oxygen if your levels fall somewhere in this range.
That means that for any given person, at times their blood oxygen level will be at 90 percent, and at times it will be 98, or 92, or 100, or 88.
IT IS NOT ALWAYS THE SAME.
So, according to your belief, the "soul" fluctuates. When people are at higher elevations, their blood oxygen level falls. So, the higher up you go, the less "soul" you have, according to your belief.
Obesity can lower the level too, so I guess fat people have less "soul" than people who are thin.
When you exercise your levels increase. So I guess working out is a "soul enhancing" activity.
It's possible to lose 15% of your blood and not suffer any serious side effects. So, you can lose 15% of your "soul" and nothing happens. Where does that 15% go? To heaven? Into your shoes?
When you get a blood transfusion you're getting someone else's blood. Are you also sharing their "soul"? Are you and the donor "soul mates"?
You are a moron. So are your fellow "children" if they believe your nonsense.
I am sorry, but it's a fact.
No you mis-understand..the soul is the BLOOD, has nothing to do with the oxygen level

The breath has to do with the SPIRIT..and yes a persons energy can wax and wane...which is the oxygen.
little lamb

South Yarra, Australia

#901 Sep 6, 2013
HighlyEvolved wrote:
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For the record, here's how you began this thread, with Post #1:
"Highly Evolved made a stupid statement."
You want civil discourse? Don't begin a conversation by calling me, or my statements, "stupid."
You started this fight using derogatory and insulting language. How dare you criticize ME for doing what YOU did first.
I was exactly right about you: you're a self-righteous, condescending, arrogant hypocrite.
You're probably the least "Christian" person on this forum. If your behavior is the result of being filled with the Spirit, and your behavior is no different from mine, then being filled with the Spirit is meaningless.
Thank you for proving my point.
Yes I called your STATEMENT stupid..but I personally would be careful not to call a "PERSON' such..for that would get one into trouble with God.

You lack a lot of discernment don't you?

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#902 Sep 6, 2013
little lamb wrote:
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Yes I called your STATEMENT stupid..but I personally would be careful not to call a "PERSON' such..for that would get one into trouble with God.
You lack a lot of discernment don't you?
What would you call a person who constantly makes stupid statements?

I would call such a person a "Christian."

:)
little lamb

South Yarra, Australia

#903 Sep 6, 2013
HighlyEvolved wrote:
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What would you call a person who constantly makes stupid statements?
I would call such a person a "Christian."
:)
Since when have you become a Christian?

glad to hear :)

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#904 Sep 6, 2013
lol wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you for providing the model of a foolish atheist.
Arrogant, hypocritical, self-righteous, and condescending.
I am not going to involve myself in this drama between the two of you; but could you by the way name me some smart atheists?
little lamb

South Yarra, Australia

#905 Sep 6, 2013
lol wrote:
<quoted text>
I have heard that before. After you die it will seem like you are asleep only a few minutes before you are resurrected. I just have not found that in the bible.
Like it says in Thessalonians, those who have fell "asleep" in Christ, He will BRING WITH HIM. Are you overlooking that? They are ALREADY with Him when He returns and no, not ONLY their spirit but their whole Soul/Spirit. If you believe the soul IS the blood then it dries up and turns to dust. Or what about the process of embalming? The blood is drained from the body and disposed of.
I do not believe the story of Lazarus and the rich man Dives is a parable. I believe it is a true story of what happens when one dies. Lazarus was in Paradise. Dives was on the other side of the gulf. There is a separation after death. The saints are in Abraham's Bosom, Paradise.
The unrepentant are held in some other abode. So, they "dead" know where they are and what is going on. They are not asleep.
Yes it is interesting because in the book of daniel it states

'many asleep in the ground of dust will wake up'

And in the new covenant it speaks of those in memorial tombs who will hear his voice and come out..

So they are not running around anywhere.

And Thessalonians explains it to us further by saying

1 Thessalonians 4 [15].....we the living who survive presence of the Lord shall in no way PRECEDE those who have fallen asleep in death...

[16] Because The Lord will descend from heaven with a commanding call , with an archangels voice, and those DEAD IN UNION WITH CHRIST will RISE FIRST..

So when he brings those who have been sleeping in death with him, its after he resurrects them isn't it?

The parable of Lazarus is a parable of future judgment.

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#906 Sep 7, 2013
little lamb wrote:
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Since when have you become a Christian?
glad to hear :)
You just agreed that people who constantly make stupid statements are Christians.

Way to go!
little lamb

South Yarra, Australia

#907 Sep 7, 2013
HighlyEvolved wrote:
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You just agreed that people who constantly make stupid statements are Christians.
Way to go!
No.. I just agreed that you assume you must be what you think is a Christian.....but to be a Christian is a wonderful thing...and we would hope for you to become one.
feces for jesus

Thiells, NY

#908 Sep 7, 2013
little lamb wrote:
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No you mis-understand..the soul is the BLOOD, has nothing to do with the oxygen level
The breath has to do with the SPIRIT..and yes a persons energy can wax and wane...which is the oxygen.
Your claims are just unprovable garbage, nothing more.
feces for jesus

Thiells, NY

#909 Sep 7, 2013
lol wrote:
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You still floating in the toidy bowl?
You still crippled?
feces for jesus

Thiells, NY

#910 Sep 7, 2013
little lamb wrote:
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That word used is 'nephesh' translated either 'soul' or 'life'
And the reason that blood was what made atonement..is because only blood equals the ransom of what Adam lost
In the day you eat from the tree "you" will die.
The 'you' will die..equals the person..the soul.
Pathetic christards like you will ignore what is really in the bible and remain ignorant.
lol

Welch, WV

#911 Sep 7, 2013
HighlyEvolved wrote:
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What can you model, Wayne, one-legged pants? LOL.
You're the one who experimented - foolishly - with gay sex. And you call ME a fool?
You're the one who pissed God off so badly that he took your leg. I still have both of mine, so I guess God favors me.
Me, an atheist!
Oh, the f*cking irony...
I will enjoy walking on your atheistic, arrogant ashes.
lol

Welch, WV

#912 Sep 7, 2013
little lamb wrote:
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Yes it is interesting because in the book of daniel it states
'many asleep in the ground of dust will wake up'
And in the new covenant it speaks of those in memorial tombs who will hear his voice and come out..
So they are not running around anywhere.
And Thessalonians explains it to us further by saying
1 Thessalonians 4 [15].....we the living who survive presence of the Lord shall in no way PRECEDE those who have fallen asleep in death...
[16] Because The Lord will descend from heaven with a commanding call , with an archangels voice, and those DEAD IN UNION WITH CHRIST will RISE FIRST..
So when he brings those who have been sleeping in death with him, its after he resurrects them isn't it?
The parable of Lazarus is a parable of future judgment.
The quote you use from Daniel, "And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt" IS interesting. Where else is the dust used as such?

Genesis 3:14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

But now, to SLEEP in the dust could also mean,

ROmans 11:8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.

So, MANY are asleep in the dust because God has caused tem to be.

Or, because the serpent is cursed to eat the dust (Does a snake REALLY eat dust?) This is only a sign of humiliation put upon satan. Satan, who was once Lucifer, the covering cherub of God Himself now eats the dust of the ground. How humiliating it must be for him!

Concerning your question [16] above. No, the resurrection is AFTER HE brings the "dead" with Him.

1Thessalonians 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

1Thessalonians 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

1Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

This only means the "dead" are already with Him BECAUSE they have went BEFORE us, the living. The living shall in no wise precede the dead for they have ALREADY went on to be with the Lord and He will bring them BACK with Him.
lol

Welch, WV

#913 Sep 7, 2013
Mr Ironhart wrote:
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I am not going to involve myself in this drama between the two of you; but could you by the way name me some smart atheists?
In worldly ways? Probably plenty but I don't know of any right off the top of my head.
lol

Welch, WV

#914 Sep 7, 2013
HighlyEvolved wrote:
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What would you call a person who constantly makes stupid statements?
I would call such a person a "Christian."
:)
I would call them atheists. You are stupid. Psalm 14:1

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