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#268 Aug 21, 2013
little lamb wrote:
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.. scriptures say that " all scripture is inspired of God beneficial for teaching reproving and setting matters straight, and disciplining in righteousness, that the man of God will be fully competent completely equipped for every good work"
2 Timothy 3 [16-17]
So I would say the 'Bible ' actually shows you are lying nettie in your statement
What scripture is being referred to in that particular verse, dear?
Which Bible was Timothy using?
Why did Paul have to check on him and make sure he was teaching in his church according to the way he had been taught? Was he taught orally or with scripture?
little lamb

South Yarra, Australia

#269 Aug 21, 2013
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>What scripture is being referred to in that particular verse, dear?
Which Bible was Timothy using?
Why did Paul have to check on him and make sure he was teaching in his church according to the way he had been taught? Was he taught orally or with scripture?
Paul was ministering a new covenant, mediated by Jesus Christ..and in his ministering of this covenant Paul instructed Timothy that
' all scripture is inspired of God'

So you can only be questioning the inspiration of God in the new covenant Jesus mediates by this foolish question

So does being a Catholic mean you are not a Christian , because you throw doubt on the new testament [ covenant] jesus was sent as the messenger of... Malachi 3 [1]as not being INSPIRED of GOD??

Don't you believe Paul when he said that the gospels are not something human?

And even more important , don't you believe Jesus , when he says "

John 12:49
"For I did not speak of my own accord, but the Father who sent me commanded me what to say and how to say it."

So are you going to continue to deny that the new testament [covenant] is not inspired??
little lamb

South Yarra, Australia

#270 Aug 21, 2013
correction..are you nettie ..denying the inspiration of the new testament [covenant] that Jesus mediates.

“God Loves Ilks!”

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#271 Aug 21, 2013
little lamb wrote:
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Paul was ministering a new covenant, mediated by Jesus Christ..and in his ministering of this covenant Paul instructed Timothy that
' all scripture is inspired of God'
So you can only be questioning the inspiration of God in the new covenant Jesus mediates by this foolish question
So does being a Catholic mean you are not a Christian , because you throw doubt on the new testament [ covenant] jesus was sent as the messenger of... Malachi 3 [1]as not being INSPIRED of GOD??
Don't you believe Paul when he said that the gospels are not something human?
And even more important , don't you believe Jesus , when he says "
John 12:49
"For I did not speak of my own accord, but the Father who sent me commanded me what to say and how to say it."
So are you going to continue to deny that the new testament [covenant] is not inspired??
The Holy Bible was not in existence at that time.

Paul, as well as Timothy, followed ORAL teachings passed down from Jesus to the Apostles, who in turn, passed these teachings down ORALLY to their new converts.
Sure, there were some writings available at that time; only a few made it into the New Testament.

“God Loves Ilks!”

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#272 Aug 21, 2013
little lamb wrote:
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the reason Jesus was sent by the Father, is connected to what happened in the garden of Eden..
If sin and death did not enter the world through one man, there would be no need to have a second Adam, who brings life.
1 Corinthians 15 :47 "The first man is from the earth, earthy; the second man is from heaven.
48 'As is the earthy, so also are those who are earthy; and as is the heavenly, so also are those who are heavenly.…"
all creation was made through and for Christ (Colossians 1:16), then Jesus Christ is the summit of creation and was always intended.

God had slowly revealed Himself to mankind in the Old Testament; In the New Testament, Jesus teaches more about God and what He wants/expects than the Old Testament ever did.
little lamb

South Yarra, Australia

#273 Aug 21, 2013
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>The Holy Bible was not in existence at that time.
Paul, as well as Timothy, followed ORAL teachings passed down from Jesus to the Apostles, who in turn, passed these teachings down ORALLY to their new converts.
Sure, there were some writings available at that time; only a few made it into the New Testament.
Fact remains that there were letters from the Apostles to the congregations..and in existence, in one letter Paul told the congregation that when they had read it , to pass it on to another..So these vletters were in circulation

And Paul states 2 Corinthians 3 [6][God]" who has adequately qualified us as being ministers of a new covenant [testament]"

So again i ask you Nettie do you believe the new covenant
[ testament ] is inspired?

Because if you say 'no'

Then Jesus work as mediator of a new covenant is being treated with disrespect by you..a representative of the Catholic church..spitting on Jesus.
little lamb

South Yarra, Australia

#274 Aug 21, 2013
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text> all creation was made through and for Christ (Colossians 1:16), then Jesus Christ is the summit of creation and was always intended.
God had slowly revealed Himself to mankind in the Old Testament; In the New Testament, Jesus teaches more about God and what He wants/expects than the Old Testament ever did.
Then you must agree it is inspired otherwise why would you quote Colossians, if you did not recognize the AUTHORITY of Gods Word.

You see we don't recognise the authority of any man over Gods word

Because Jesus has been given ' all authority in heaven and earth' and 'he is called THE WORD OF GOD' rev 19 [13]

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#275 Aug 21, 2013
15th Dalai Lama wrote:
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I'm trained in four languages.
break
bread
treat
What rules did they teach you for these words at Cabbageville High School?
So why do you struggle so with our English Bibles?

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#276 Aug 21, 2013
Cujo wrote:
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You have no proof of hell either. Again, quoting bible verses is not proof of anything.
The same Bible that foretold the death and rebirth of Israel, also foretold of Hell fire for you.

Mk 16 He that believeth not shall be DAMNED.
Cujo

Regina, Canada

#277 Aug 21, 2013
little lamb wrote:
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Quoting scripture is the 'sword' of the spirit..and it is Gods sword that is going to put Leviathan to death ...Have fun working that one out...
Translated: Blah blah blah. Jiberish!
Cujo

Regina, Canada

#278 Aug 21, 2013
lol wrote:
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To Christians, Bible verses are proof of everything. To those of you who are perishing it is foolishness.
Please, save your silly prattle and don't answer this.
And as I stated in an earlier post. Many Christians do not know what constitutes as proof. You would never be able to use scripture as evidence in a court of law, ever!

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#279 Aug 21, 2013
Cujo wrote:
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And as I stated in an earlier post. Many Christians do not know what constitutes as proof. You would never be able to use scripture as evidence in a court of law, ever!
When they come for you you will BAWL like a baby. And they will and you will.

Matthew 13:49-50 (NKJV)
49 So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come forth, separate the wicked from among the just, 50 and cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth."

“God Loves Ilks!”

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#280 Aug 21, 2013
little lamb wrote:
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Fact remains that there were letters from the Apostles to the congregations..and in existence, in one letter Paul told the congregation that when they had read it , to pass it on to another..So these vletters were in circulation
And Paul states 2 Corinthians 3 [6][God]" who has adequately qualified us as being ministers of a new covenant [testament]"
So again i ask you Nettie do you believe the new covenant
[ testament ] is inspired?
Because if you say 'no'
Then Jesus work as mediator of a new covenant is being treated with disrespect by you..a representative of the Catholic church..spitting on Jesus.
What makes you think that Catholics don't think the NT is inspired?
It was the Catholic Church who determined which books WERE inspired and were to be IN the New Testament.

Get yourself together, dear; you're a mess.

the Apostle here refers to the scriptures which Timothy was taught in his infancy.

"Now, a good part of the New Testament was not written in his boyhood: Some of the Catholic epistles were not written even when Paul wrote this, and none of the books of the New Testament were then placed on the canon of the Scripture books. He refers, then, to the scriptures of the Old Testament, and, if the argument from this passage proved anything, it would prove too much, viz., that the scriptures of the New Testament were not necessary for a rule of faith."

Furthermore, Protestants typically read 2 Timothy 3:16-17 out of context. When read in the context of the surrounding passages, one discovers that Paul’s reference to Scripture is only part of his exhortation that Timothy take as his guide Tradition and Scripture. The two verses immediately before it state: "But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have firmly believed, knowing from whom you learned it, and how from childhood you have been acquainted with the sacred writings which are able to instruct you for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus" (2 Tim. 3:14–15).

Paul tells Timothy to continue in what he has learned for two reasons: first, because he knows from whom he has learned it—Paul himself—and second, because he has been educated in the scriptures. The first of these is a direct appeal to apostolic tradition, the oral teaching which the apostle Paul had given Timothy.
http://www.catholic.com/tracts/scripture-and-...

“God Loves Ilks!”

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#281 Aug 21, 2013
little lamb wrote:
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Then you must agree it is inspired otherwise why would you quote Colossians, if you did not recognize the AUTHORITY of Gods Word.
You see we don't recognise the authority of any man over Gods word
Because Jesus has been given ' all authority in heaven and earth' and 'he is called THE WORD OF GOD' rev 19 [13]
The Catholic Church gave us the Bible.
The first Catholics wrote the New Testament.
The Catholic Church NEVER turned over its Authority given to it BY Jesus to the Bible, dear.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#282 Aug 21, 2013
little lamb wrote:
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Quoting scripture is the 'sword' of the spirit..and it is Gods sword that is going to put Leviathan to death ...Have fun working that one out...
Leviathan will be put to death with a literal razor sharp two edged sword. The serpent will be cut off after he is tortured and punished for the "crucifixion". Isaiah 27:1 he's called "the piercing serpent". He is the Messiahs father and that happened in her childhood.
Cujo

Leask, Canada

#283 Aug 21, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
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When they come for you you will BAWL like a baby. And they will and you will.
Matthew 13:49-50 (NKJV)
49 So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come forth, separate the wicked from among the just, 50 and cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth."
LOL, the idea of hell is completely illogical, and irrational for such a "so called" loving god. Use your brain.
lol

Welch, WV

#284 Aug 21, 2013
janeebee wrote:
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But I didn't ask you how you told the difference between what is true IN THE BIBLE, and what is not.
I asked you how you tell the difference between what is true ABOUT GOD, and what is not.
Nonetheless, you've answered MY question - you CAN'T!
Everything in the Bible is true about God, that's how I can tell the difference. Probably something YOU would say about God would be false. I just DID answer your question.
lol

Welch, WV

#285 Aug 21, 2013
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>Once again, Hope, you put down the Catholic faith without having even a crumb of knowledge as to what the Catholic Church teaches.
Can't you answer a simple question? Did Jesus literally walk on the water? Did He literally arise from the dead in physical form? Did He call Lazarus from the dead or not? And yes, I DO have Hope in Christ Jesus. Do you?

BTW, I'll put down ANY faith that does not have Faith in Jesus Christ. Catholics claim they do so why do you think I am putting it down?
lol

Welch, WV

#286 Aug 21, 2013
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>What scripture is being referred to in that particular verse, dear?
Which Bible was Timothy using?
Why did Paul have to check on him and make sure he was teaching in his church according to the way he had been taught? Was he taught orally or with scripture?
Which Bible was Timothy using? What kind of question is that? He wasn't using any Bible, he was speaking and writing as the Spirit gave unction.
lol

Welch, WV

#287 Aug 21, 2013
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>The Holy Bible was not in existence at that time.
Paul, as well as Timothy, followed ORAL teachings passed down from Jesus to the Apostles, who in turn, passed these teachings down ORALLY to their new converts.
Sure, there were some writings available at that time; only a few made it into the New Testament.
They used and taught from the Old Testament and spoke and wrote as the Spirit moved them. It seems as if you need basic Bible study.

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