Is Paul a false Apostle?
Prophet of Jesus Christ

San Antonio, TX

#527 Oct 6, 2013
tahoegirl wrote:
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No one else wants to stay on topic here, but it is true that if you follow Christ you don't need Paul and his doctrine to follow Christ. I think Paul made his own bed so to speak, he put these words into his own mouth and it is true that Paul said to follow him not Christ. Paul's own worst enemy was Paul's own mouth. And the more he says the worse hr looks. Good post.
Are you worth it to God...to save you? Yes or no?
tahoegirl

Orlando, FL

#528 Oct 7, 2013
Prophet of Jesus Christ wrote:
<quoted text>Are you worth it to God...to save you? Yes or no?
I wonder about that myself, of course I would say yes, and I hope he doesn't say no.
Flygerian

Chickasha, OK

#530 Oct 7, 2013
Prophet of Jesus Christ wrote:
<quoted text>How are they your brother? Brother in ...what?
Did I say that to you? If not, whats it to you what I call him?
Flygerian

Chickasha, OK

#531 Oct 7, 2013
Hardie-Har-Har wrote:
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Harr!
A right-on funny question you pose to Flygerian there, Prophet!...'tis one that I'm sure the Muslim-actin' FlyGirl will cross the street to avoid answering, or just beg the question with you,... as is normally Fly's wont!(lol)...
Of course, Mrs Betty Quinn's OP of the Thread, "Top Five Analingus Tips", may jest be the kind of brotherhood the Flygerian seeks!...
Hardie-Har-Har!
No the funny part is you avoiding my last post and now revealing your fantasies of me and "analingus".

But yea I expect this type of strange and awkward behavior from you
no-one-special

Mérida, Mexico

#532 Oct 7, 2013
tahoegirl wrote:
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No one else wants to stay on topic here, but it is true that if you follow Christ you don't need Paul and his doctrine to follow Christ. I think Paul made his own bed so to speak, he put these words into his own mouth and it is true that Paul said to follow him not Christ. Paul's own worst enemy was Paul's own mouth. And the more he says the worse hr looks. Good post.
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----MATTHEW 10:17-20 Be on your guard; you will be handed over to the local councils and be flogged in the synagogues. On my account you will be brought before governors and kings as WITNESSES to them and TO THE GENTILES (Isaiah 49:6/Luke 2:32). But when they arrest you, do not worry about what to say or how to say it. At that time you will be given what to say, for it will not be you speaking, but THE SPIRIT OF YOUR FATHER (God)speaking through you.

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EPHESIANS 3:1-For this reason I, Paul, the prisoner of Christ Jesus for the sake of you Gentiles— Surely you have heard about the administration of God’s grace that was given to me for you, that is, the mystery made known to me by revelation, as I have already written briefly. In reading this, then, you will be able to understand my insight into the mystery of Christ, which was not made known to people in other generations as it has now been revealed by the Spirit to God’s holy apostles and prophets. This mystery is that through the gospel the Gentiles are heirs together with Israel, members together of one body, and sharers together in the promise in Christ Jesus (ROMANS 11:11-28).

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---2 PETER 3:16 Paul writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

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no-one-special

Mérida, Mexico

#533 Oct 7, 2013
continuation:

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2 CORINTHIANS 11:21-33 Whatever anyone else dares to boast about—I am speaking as a fool—I also dare to boast about. 22 Are they Hebrews? So am I. Are they Israelites? So am I. Are they Abraham’s descendants? So am I. 23 Are they servants of Christ?(I am out of my mind to talk like this.) I am more. I have worked much harder, been in prison more frequently, been flogged more severely, and been exposed to death again and again. 24 Five times I received from the Jews the forty lashes minus one. 25 Three times I was beaten with rods, once I was pelted with stones, three times I was shipwrecked, I spent a night and a day in the open sea, 26 I have been constantly on the move. I have been in danger from rivers, in danger from bandits, in danger from my fellow Jews, in danger from Gentiles; in danger in the city, in danger in the country, in danger at sea; and in danger from false believers. 27 I have labored and toiled and have often gone without sleep; I have known hunger and thirst and have often gone without food; I have been cold and naked. 28 Besides everything else, I face daily the pressure of my concern for all the churches. 29 Who is weak, and I do not feel weak? Who is led into sin, and I do not inwardly burn?

30 If I must boast, I will boast of the things that show my weakness. 31 The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, who is to be praised forever, knows that I am not lying. 32 In Damascus the governor under King Aretas had the city of the Damascenes guarded in order to arrest me. 33 But I was lowered in a basket from a window in the wall and slipped through his hands.

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no-one-special

Mérida, Mexico

#534 Oct 7, 2013
tahoegirl wrote:
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Now with that being said, can you be so kind and tell us "WHO" is speaking through you (Matthew 10:17-20)?

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Also, if you aren't from the tribes of Jacob (Isaiah 49:6 /Luke 2:32/John 4:22/ John 10:16) then why should we believe you are any kind of light for the Gentiles today?

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Since: Oct 07

Aberdeen, UK

#535 Oct 7, 2013
tahoegirl wrote:
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No one else wants to stay on topic here, but it is true that if you follow Christ you don't need Paul and his doctrine to follow Christ. I think Paul made his own bed so to speak, he put these words into his own mouth and it is true that Paul said to follow him not Christ. Paul's own worst enemy was Paul's own mouth. And the more he says the worse hr looks. Good post.
Hi Tahoegirl ...first thing that struck me as being suspicious about Saul/Paul was Christ said

Matthew 10

Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

1 And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease.

8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give. 9 Provide neither gold, nor silver, nor brass in your purses, 10 nor scrip for your journey, neither two coats, neither shoes, nor yet staves: for the workman is worthy of his meat.

Luke 9 53 And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem. 54 And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? 55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of. 56 For the Son of man is not come to destroy men’s lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.

so what does Paul do

Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

. 8 But Elymas the sorcerer (for so is his name by interpretation) withstood them, seeking to turn away the deputy from the faith. 9 Then Saul,(who also is called Paul,) filled with the Holy Ghost, set his eyes on him, 10 and said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord? 11 And now, behold, the hand of the Lord is upon thee, and thou shalt be blind, not seeing the sun for a season. And immediately there fell on him a mist and a darkness; and he went about seeking some to lead him by the hand. 12 Then the deputy, when he saw what was done, believed, being astonished at the doctrine of the Lord.

and thats just one of the things that make me go mmmmmm there is countless more
Prophet of Jesus Christ

San Antonio, TX

#536 Oct 7, 2013
Flygerian wrote:
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Did I say that to you? If not, whats it to you what I call him?
I just wanted to torment the demons that posses you again. Was I see I have achieved my objective.
no-one-special

Mérida, Mexico

#537 Oct 7, 2013
loveismygoal wrote:
<quoted text>Hi Tahoegirl ...first thing that struck me as being suspicious about Saul/Paul was Christ said
Matthew 10
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
1 And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease.
8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give. 9 Provide neither gold, nor silver, nor brass in your purses, 10 nor scrip for your journey, neither two coats, neither shoes, nor yet staves: for the workman is worthy of his meat.
Luke 9 53 And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem. 54 And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? 55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of. 56 For the Son of man is not come to destroy men’s lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.
so what does Paul do
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
. 8 But Elymas the sorcerer (for so is his name by interpretation) withstood them, seeking to turn away the deputy from the faith. 9 Then Saul,(who also is called Paul,) filled with the Holy Ghost, set his eyes on him, 10 and said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord? 11 And now, behold, the hand of the Lord is upon thee, and thou shalt be blind, not seeing the sun for a season. And immediately there fell on him a mist and a darkness; and he went about seeking some to lead him by the hand. 12 Then the deputy, when he saw what was done, believed, being astonished at the doctrine of the Lord.
and thats just one of the things that make me go mmmmmm there is countless more
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If it was both eyes causing Elymas the sorcerer to sin against the Lord.... wasn't there a now a better chance of him repenting to enter the kingdom of God and so be saved from the pit? I'm bet he was glad the Lord didn't pluck out just one, huh?

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Flygerian

Chickasha, OK

#538 Oct 7, 2013
Prophet of Jesus Christ wrote:
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I just wanted to torment the demons that posses you again. Was I see I have achieved my objective.
"Was I see I have achieved my objective"

lol Must be the language of that lying evil spirit that has possessed you

lol

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no-one-special

Mérida, Mexico

#539 Oct 7, 2013
loveismygoal wrote:
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Oh and another thing you're not seeing in this passage:

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---ACTS 13:11And now, behold, the hand of the Lord is upon thee, and thou shalt be blind, not seeing the sun FOR A SEASON.

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It doesn't say "forever"..... "For a season" tells us the Lord would eventually heal and open his eyes.

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no-one-special

Mérida, Mexico

#540 Oct 7, 2013
loveismygoal wrote:
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And that would also mean Elymas repented while blind and his eyes were open to the kingdom prior to the season ending.

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no-one-special

Mérida, Mexico

#541 Oct 7, 2013
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And as the old saying goes.... Four eyes is better than two blind ones, right?...lol

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Prophet of Jesus Christ

San Antonio, TX

#542 Oct 7, 2013
Flygerian wrote:
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"Was I see I have achieved my objective"
lol Must be the language of that lying evil spirit that has possessed you
lol
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Typing errors are not a sign of demon possession. But saying they are is.

Since: Oct 07

Aberdeen, UK

#543 Oct 7, 2013
no-one-special wrote:
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If it was both eyes causing Elymas the sorcerer to sin against the Lord.... wasn't there a now a better chance of him repenting to enter the kingdom of God and so be saved from the pit? I'm bet he was glad the Lord didn't pluck out just one, huh?
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who says it was his eyes causing him to sin ..according to scripture it was an evil spirit ..Christ says to cast out demons .. nowhere does he say blind a man possessed does he?

Since: Oct 07

Aberdeen, UK

#544 Oct 7, 2013
no-one-special wrote:
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Oh and another thing you're not seeing in this passage:
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---ACTS 13:11And now, behold, the hand of the Lord is upon thee, and thou shalt be blind, not seeing the sun FOR A SEASON.
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It doesn't say "forever"..... "For a season" tells us the Lord would eventually heal and open his eyes.
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how presumptuous..I see clearly it says for a season ..whatever made you presume I didnt ?

so where does Christ give his authority to his apostles to blind a man regardless of how long it was for? or turn him over to Satan for destruction of the flesh as Paul does in another incident ?

where does Christ give that authority ?
Prophet of Jesus Christ

San Antonio, TX

#545 Oct 7, 2013
loveismygoal wrote:
<quoted text>who says it was his eyes causing him to sin ..according to scripture it was an evil spirit ..Christ says to cast out demons .. nowhere does he say blind a man possessed does he?
Please if you will...answer this question for me.

Are you worth it to God...to save you?

Yes or no?

Since: Oct 07

Aberdeen, UK

#546 Oct 7, 2013
no-one-special wrote:
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And that would also mean Elymas repented while blind and his eyes were open to the kingdom prior to the season ending.
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really ? It could also mean that his blindness wasnt from the Lord and his eyes were reopened by him ..but thats just us both speculating ,there is no scriptural evidence for either of our speculations ... Christ gave authority to his apostles to cast out demons ,open the eyes of the blind ,heal the sick ,set the captives free etc and Pauls first "miracle " was to blind a man ..where is it written the apostles had the authority to do such a thing?

Since: Oct 07

Aberdeen, UK

#547 Oct 7, 2013
Prophet of Jesus Christ wrote:
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Please if you will...answer this question for me.
Are you worth it to God...to save you?
Yes or no?
Yes I must have been ..cause he did ..and my God deems every single human being worthy to be saved ..thats if they are lost in the first place ..I was lost but not everyone is.

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