Human Sacrifice... right or wrong?
Cisco Kid

Modesto, CA

#455 May 5, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>Sweden, New Zealand, Switzerland, Denmark, Norway
I was wrong.
You really ARE that much of an idiot.

Sweden's demographics are; Lutheran 87%, other (includes Roman Catholic, Orthodox, Baptist, Muslim, Jewish, and Buddhist) 13%

New Zealand's demographics are; Protestant 38.6%(Anglican 13.8%, Presbyterian, Congregational, and Reformed 10%, Christian (no denomination specified) 4.6%, Methodist 3%, Pentecostal 2%, Baptist 1.4%, other Christian 3.8%), Roman Catholic 12.6%, Maori Christian 1.6%, Hindu 1.6%, Buddhist 1.3%, other religions 2.2%, none 32.2%, other or unidentified 9.9%(2006 Census).

Switzerland's demographics are; Roman Catholic 41.8%, Protestant 35.3%, Muslim 4.3%, Orthodox 1.8%, other Christian 0.4%, other 1%, unspecified 4.3%, none 11.1%(2000 census).

Denmark's demographics are; Evangelical Lutheran (official) 95%, other Christian (includes Protestant and Roman Catholic) 3%, Muslim 2%.

Norway's demographics are; Church of Norway (Evangelical Lutheran - official) 85.7%, Pentecostal 1%, Roman Catholic 1%, other Christian 2.4%, Muslim 1.8%, other 8.1%(2004).

( https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-... )

Do you have any other ignorant, half-baked delusional concepts your are misdirecting your life with?
Cisco Kid

Modesto, CA

#456 May 5, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>lol, I am in Florida, I just change around the home town for fun
You live in Flori-DUH?
No wonder you're such a moron.

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#457 May 5, 2013
Flygerian wrote:
<quoted text>
That doesnt say to kill people that believe in other religions does it? But to kill people (that agreed to the covenant with this God ALLEGEDLY) that try to convince others to worship different gods. Is that not what it says?
No, read it again.

It quite clearly says that they are to murder everyone who is in proximity of someone doing this.

In other words, if you live across town from someone who is Hindu, you too must die.
Cisco Kid

Modesto, CA

#458 May 5, 2013
Flygerian wrote:
<quoted text>
Why settle for three? SHould have had her name them all since she stated in a fashion that shows theres more than three
I don't want to short circuit their room temperature IQ.

Hang around, this is only going be more fun.
Cisco Kid

Modesto, CA

#459 May 5, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
No, read it again.
It quite clearly says that they are to murder everyone who is in proximity of someone doing this.
In other words, if you live across town from someone who is Hindu, you too must die.
No it doesn't. You don't comprehend the scenario.
Flygerian

Chickasha, OK

#460 May 5, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
No, read it again.
It quite clearly says that they are to murder everyone who is in proximity of someone doing this.
In other words, if you live across town from someone who is Hindu, you too must die.
Lets see:

2 If you hear it said about one of the towns the Lord your God is giving you to live in 13 that troublemakers have arisen among you and have led the people of their town astray, saying,“Let us go and worship other gods”(gods you have not known),

NOTICE IT SAYS THAT THE FALSE PROPHET HAS LED THE PEOPLE OF THE TOWN ASTRAY. LETS SKIP AHEAD

15 you must certainly put to the sword all who live in that town

Yes. You must put to death ALL who followed other gods. Note, that this was AFTER these same people saw the 10 signs in Egypt, after these same people saw the Light guiding them thru the wilderness, and after they saw food rain down from heaven SIX days of the week but on the 7th NONE rain down. Thats why it seems harsh

Also note that there is an example of people worshipping other gods in the bible and it wasnt just a blanket genocide. Those that committed the acts were punished
Flygerian

Chickasha, OK

#461 May 5, 2013
JJJ wrote:
<quoted text>
Fly...... you have to open your mind. It's stuck in ideas that were written over 2000 years ago..
Have a read of what you have just said above....
Please tell me that you understand the fundamental wrong in this.....
<quoted text>
If a human did what you are saying above he would be exhibiting evidence of being a psychopath....
Who that is a sane rational person would 'create evil for whatever reason comes to mind'
Once again your argument is basically "This is god he can do what he wants'... and in this you fail to see that you consciousness is in its early development....you reasoning in flawed at the basest level.
Whats flawed about it? God CAN do as He pleases right? Just as the person that creates a toy can do as he pleases wit the toy right?

Theres a difference between a HUMAN and God Almighty RIGHT? I mean on one hand the human was given life like the humans around him. Who gave God Almighty life? Who is His equal? NOBODY
JJJ wrote:
We are discussing a divine being (if one exists) and surely in truth that whatever god you believe in... should he not be the very pinnicale of the best qualities that we humans can aspire to?
Tell me Fly... what would you think of father that 'created evil to test his children'
No He should not be the pinnacle of what I think. He is what He is. And no matter how He acts, everyone is not gonna agree with it. TRUE OR FALSE?
JJJ wrote:
Can you not see how infantile and fundamentally wrong that notion is? Who would want to test their children... only a parent that does not trust them, and distrust simply mirrors one self...
And yet you believe that this is the level that your god operates on..... a level that is a little above the beast... so alaong with the fact that god is angry, vengeful, jealous we can add he lacks trust in short he is exibiting the symptoms of if not a psychopath then a mentally unbalanced being at theh very least.....
Members of our species have evolved way past the level that you are reasoning on....what you believe is backward, four thousand years backward....
Open your mind Fly.... trust there is so much to see...
What have you been seeing? Because you say "members of our species have evolved" but they still fight over resources lmao. What evolving? We're still greedy. We're still materialistic. And now we're losing love and empathy for fellow humans. But we're evolving right? Dont let the fact that we're gaining better and better technologies that we are "evolving". Because the MORE we gain technology the worse humanity becomes. Dont believe me? Ask anyone that grew up in the 50s. Heck wait 20 years and look at the youth generation and how much WORSE they are then yours. I am in this youth generation (Im 23) and I can see that we are getting worse. Its not TOTALLY on us though.

As for your characteristics of God I guess that would be your opinion. I dont want your opinion without support and Im sure you feel the same way with me lol. So what makes you feel this way?

Since: Dec 09

Chicago, IL

#462 May 5, 2013
Flygerian wrote:
<quoted text>
YOU said God is love. Dont you think its foolish to limit God (an infinite being) to limited terms such as love?
<quoted text>
There are plenty of parents that do so. They tried to help their kids but their kids didnt listen. So they allow their kids to do as they wish. Maybe one day He will intervene.
<quoted text>
Again how does the existence of evil prove that He doesnt exist? Saying "God is love" doesnt prove it. Because the bible says He is more than love. It says Hes just. It says He's merciful among a vast amount of other terms that just by themselves can NEVER describe an infinite being
<quoted text>
You responded but you didnt answer. You used terrible (no offense) logic to show why He cannot exist. So let me get this straight, the God of Abraham who was operating amongst good and evil in the OT cannot exist because evil exists? He cannot create evil to test people? He cannot create evil just for whatever reason comes to mind? YOU are the one saying "God is _____" just as others do. But as I said one term is not going to FULLY EXPLAIN an Infinite being.
You are woefully mistaken.
God IS love. Everything true about God is true about love.
There IS nothing greater than LOVE! Justice and mercy aren't GREATER than love - THEY are not possible without it.
Jesus is

Rowville, Australia

#463 May 5, 2013
HAS ANYONE BOTHERED TO READ EZEKIEL WHICH IS AT THE END OF THE OLD TESTAMENT?

EZEKIEL 18:
29 Yet the Israelites say,‘The way of the Lord is not just.’ Are my ways unjust, people of Israel? Is it not your ways that are unjust?

30 “Therefore, you Israelites, I will judge each of you according to your own ways, declares the Sovereign Lord. Repent! Turn away from all your offenses; then sin will not be your downfall. 31 Rid yourselves of all the offenses you have committed, and get a new heart and a new spirit. Why will you die, people of Israel?
32 "FOR I TAKE NO PLEASURE IN THE DEATH OF ANYONE", declares the Sovereign Lord. "REPENT AND LIVE!"
Tom

Tempe, AZ

#465 May 6, 2013
janeebee wrote:
<quoted text>
You are woefully mistaken.
God IS love. Everything true about God is true about love.
There IS nothing greater than LOVE! Justice and mercy aren't GREATER than love - THEY are not possible without it.
NEW LINK. HE HAD THE OTHER ONE REMOVED...

Prophet of JC is a Fraud...



His name is Ralph Stair FRAUD and PEDOPHILE
Tom

Tempe, AZ

#466 May 6, 2013
Flygerian wrote:
<quoted text>
Whats flawed about it? God CAN do as He pleases right? Just as the person that creates a toy can do as he pleases wit the toy right?
Theres a difference between a HUMAN and God Almighty RIGHT? I mean on one hand the human was given life like the humans around him. Who gave God Almighty life? Who is His equal? NOBODY
<quoted text>
No He should not be the pinnacle of what I think. He is what He is. And no matter how He acts, everyone is not gonna agree with it. TRUE OR FALSE?
<quoted text>
What have you been seeing? Because you say "members of our species have evolved" but they still fight over resources lmao. What evolving? We're still greedy. We're still materialistic. And now we're losing love and empathy for fellow humans. But we're evolving right? Dont let the fact that we're gaining better and better technologies that we are "evolving". Because the MORE we gain technology the worse humanity becomes. Dont believe me? Ask anyone that grew up in the 50s. Heck wait 20 years and look at the youth generation and how much WORSE they are then yours. I am in this youth generation (Im 23) and I can see that we are getting worse. Its not TOTALLY on us though.
As for your characteristics of God I guess that would be your opinion. I dont want your opinion without support and Im sure you feel the same way with me lol. So what makes you feel this way?
NEW LINK. HE HAD THE OTHER ONE REMOVED...

Prophet of JC is a Fraud...



His name is Ralph Stair FRAUD and PEDOPHILE
Flygerian

Oklahoma City, OK

#467 May 6, 2013
janeebee wrote:
<quoted text>
You are woefully mistaken.
God IS love. Everything true about God is true about love.
There IS nothing greater than LOVE! Justice and mercy aren't GREATER than love - THEY are not possible without it.
An INFINITE being such as God (The ONLY infinite being) cannot be limited to one term. Don't you agree?
If God is love what was the flood about? What's the things happening in revelation? Why does He despise liars if He's only love? You have a whitewashed version of God to make you feel better. No offense but that's how I see it. He is what He is right?

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#468 May 6, 2013
Flygerian wrote:
<quoted text>
Lets see:
2 If you hear it said about one of the towns the Lord your God is giving you to live in 13 that troublemakers have arisen among you and have led the people of their town astray, saying,“Let us go and worship other gods”(gods you have not known),
NOTICE IT SAYS THAT THE FALSE PROPHET HAS LED THE PEOPLE OF THE TOWN ASTRAY. LETS SKIP AHEAD
15 you must certainly put to the sword all who live in that town
Yes. You must put to death ALL who followed other gods. Note, that this was AFTER these same people saw the 10 signs in Egypt, after these same people saw the Light guiding them thru the wilderness, and after they saw food rain down from heaven SIX days of the week but on the 7th NONE rain down. Thats why it seems harsh
Also note that there is an example of people worshipping other gods in the bible and it wasnt just a blanket genocide. Those that committed the acts were punished
Here's the situation:
- There is a town of 500 people.
- In that town there is a "false" prophet. Or as a regular person would say, "A priest from one of the 15,000 other religions on the planet."
- That priest has 200 followers.
- The remaining 300 people are all good Jews.

According to this ruling from the Jewish Sky Wizard, the priest, his followers AND THE JEWS must all be put to death.

Now, back to Egypt...

The Egyptians died because God unfairly punished them for forcing the Pharaoh to do what God wanted.

If Pharaoh had gone AGAINST the will of God and freed the Jews, then there would have been no reason for God to punish the Egyptian people.

Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#469 May 6, 2013
Cisco Kid wrote:
<quoted text>
You live in Flori-DUH?
No wonder you're such a moron.
You believe in some made up god and you call me a moron? HAHAHAHAHA

Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#470 May 6, 2013
Cisco Kid wrote:
<quoted text>
I was wrong.
You really ARE that much of an idiot.
Sweden's demographics are; Lutheran 87%, other (includes Roman Catholic, Orthodox, Baptist, Muslim, Jewish, and Buddhist) 13%
New Zealand's demographics are; Protestant 38.6%(Anglican 13.8%, Presbyterian, Congregational, and Reformed 10%, Christian (no denomination specified) 4.6%, Methodist 3%, Pentecostal 2%, Baptist 1.4%, other Christian 3.8%), Roman Catholic 12.6%, Maori Christian 1.6%, Hindu 1.6%, Buddhist 1.3%, other religions 2.2%, none 32.2%, other or unidentified 9.9%(2006 Census).
Switzerland's demographics are; Roman Catholic 41.8%, Protestant 35.3%, Muslim 4.3%, Orthodox 1.8%, other Christian 0.4%, other 1%, unspecified 4.3%, none 11.1%(2000 census).
Denmark's demographics are; Evangelical Lutheran (official) 95%, other Christian (includes Protestant and Roman Catholic) 3%, Muslim 2%.
Norway's demographics are; Church of Norway (Evangelical Lutheran - official) 85.7%, Pentecostal 1%, Roman Catholic 1%, other Christian 2.4%, Muslim 1.8%, other 8.1%(2004).
( https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-... )
Do you have any other ignorant, half-baked delusional concepts your are misdirecting your life with?
Try some truth http://www.gadling.com/2007/08/23/least-relig...
Flygerian

Chickasha, OK

#471 May 6, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
Here's the situation:
- There is a town of 500 people.
- In that town there is a "false" prophet. Or as a regular person would say, "A priest from one of the 15,000 other religions on the planet."
- That priest has 200 followers.
- The remaining 300 people are all good Jews.
According to this ruling from the Jewish Sky Wizard, the priest, his followers AND THE JEWS must all be put to death.
Now, back to Egypt...
This would be false. I just showed you how you were wrong and you just repeat yourself lol
Nuggin wrote:
The Egyptians died because God unfairly punished them for forcing the Pharaoh to do what God wanted.
If Pharaoh had gone AGAINST the will of God and freed the Jews, then there would have been no reason for God to punish the Egyptian people.
I agree. But everything was set in stone before the Hebrews came to Egypt. This is what was said to Abraham anyways

Then the LORD said to him, "Know for certain that for four hundred years your descendants will be strangers in a country not their own and that they will be enslaved and mistreated there.

So all that happened to Israel happened for a reason.
Cisco Kid

Modesto, CA

#472 May 6, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
Have you any idea why those Nordic nations have such a high percentile of the leading religion?
Because those are The State Mandated Religion declared by the Government.

Don't even begin to hypothesize that those countries were not associated with principles developed from Abrahamic religion.

A word of advice. When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging.

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#473 May 6, 2013
Flygerian wrote:
<quoted text>
This would be false. I just showed you how you were wrong and you just repeat yourself lol
Actually, you were wrong.

You are assuming that EVERYONE in the town is a different religion than the Jews. That's not the case. It's not the case in the verse. It's not the case in reality.
JJJ

Sydney, Australia

#474 May 6, 2013
Flygerian wrote:
<quoted text>
Whats flawed about it? God CAN do as He pleases right? Just as the person that creates a toy can do as he pleases wit the toy right?
Are you being serious Fly or just pulling my leg?

You are wrong, The very laws of the OT that are supposed to have come from your god prohibit him from doing certain things.

Does not your bible state that god cannot lie? Moral decency dictate that certain things cannot be done.

Again your Fly your reasoning lacks wisdom.... every murderous despot dictator that has lived has reasoned as you have above

You state that god can do whatever he wants because he is all powerful etc.... but that just makes him a bully.

We are not toys for some divine brat that is yet to grow up to play with, to test, to create evil just to see how we handle it...

Your bible, the OT states that man is made in god's image,(of course in reality it is man that has made god in man's image) but for now I'll accept that god made us in his image...

They are not my words Fly, apparently they were uttered by your god at Gen 1:26...

So that means Fly we, to varying degrees are mirrors of god's image..we mirror his qualities
JJJ

Sydney, Australia

#475 May 6, 2013
Now again Fly.... a decent loving sane parent does not create evil just to test their children, a decent loving sane parent does not sit back and allow their children to suffer when it is within their power to stop it....

a decent loving sane parent does not turn a deaf ear to his child that is begging to be cured of cancer...

And yet the reality is..... that if your god does in fact exist he is guilty of these very things.

You believe that he creates and allows evil to exist and why......?

Because......
Flygerian wrote:
<quoted text> God CAN do as He pleases right?
... and you see no wrong in this?

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