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Flygerian

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#434
May 4, 2013
 
JJJ wrote:
Fly you just go around in circles.... so one last time... god is love, we are supposed be his children, we are made in his image so presumebaly he would love us at least to to the same extent that we love our children.....
YOU said God is love. Dont you think its foolish to limit God (an infinite being) to limited terms such as love?
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no loving parent would allow their children tio suffer needlessly, and yet this god does...
.so either this god exists and he is not a god of love who cares for us or he does not exist...
There are plenty of parents that do so. They tried to help their kids but their kids didnt listen. So they allow their kids to do as they wish. Maybe one day He will intervene.
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perhaps you beleive in some special hybrid jewish god, and if that is so I cannot answer any of your questions...
But if you belive in the GOD YHWH and all that the OT states about him....then the state of the world proves that he does not exist.
Youn yourself sais...'who knows why god alows evil to exist'....
And the fact that you cannot answer that quesation is proof that the god that I am refering to, the god of Abraham does not exist.
Again how does the existence of evil prove that He doesnt exist? Saying "God is love" doesnt prove it. Because the bible says He is more than love. It says Hes just. It says He's merciful among a vast amount of other terms that just by themselves can NEVER describe an infinite being
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Because werd you...you don't have to agree with me but accept that I have answered you.
You responded but you didnt answer. You used terrible (no offense) logic to show why He cannot exist. So let me get this straight, the God of Abraham who was operating amongst good and evil in the OT cannot exist because evil exists? He cannot create evil to test people? He cannot create evil just for whatever reason comes to mind? YOU are the one saying "God is _____" just as others do. But as I said one term is not going to FULLY EXPLAIN an Infinite being.
Flygerian

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#435
May 4, 2013
 
Nuggin wrote:
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He orders the murder of those who don't believe. What's worse?
What verse?

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#436
May 4, 2013
 
Flygerian wrote:
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What verse?
its in deut i can only typt with 1 hnd atm
google bible says kill entire town
it will come up
Cisco Kid

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#437
May 4, 2013
 
Nuggin wrote:
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If all religions had the same opinion, would it be justified for Hindus to come and murder Christians for being ignorant?
Judging by the superior lifestyle built by Christians, Hindus know that would be a erroneous concept.

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#438
May 4, 2013
 
Cisco Kid wrote:
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Judging by the superior lifestyle built by Christians, Hindus know that would be a erroneous concept.
If you are confident that your God is the right one and will protect you, go ahead and give us your real name and address.

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#439
May 4, 2013
 
Cisco Kid wrote:
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Judging by the superior lifestyle built by Christians, Hindus know that would be a erroneous concept.
Really? The industrious people who built America where not christians, do you believe any wealthy person believes in your god?
And the lifestyle of people in countries that do not follow any of the Abrahamic cults have a higher standard of living
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#440
May 4, 2013
 
Nuggin wrote:
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its in deut i can only typt with 1 hnd atm
google bible says kill entire town
it will come up
I thought you said it says to kill people who do not believe?

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#441
May 4, 2013
 
Flygerian wrote:
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I thought you said it says to kill people who do not believe?
In fact, it not only says to kill the people worshiping other religions, it says you need to kill people who worship YOUR religion is they live NEAR people who worship other religions.
Flygerian

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#442
May 4, 2013
 
Nuggin wrote:
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In fact, it not only says to kill the people worshiping other religions, it says you need to kill people who worship YOUR religion is they live NEAR people who worship other religions.
You'll need to bring proof of what you say. Meaning show where it says to kill people of other religions.

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#443
May 5, 2013
 
Flygerian wrote:
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You'll need to bring proof of what you say. Meaning show where it says to kill people of other religions.
Are you telling me that you are unfamiliar with the Bible?

Are you a Christian? Do you believe that Bible is the word of God?
Flygerian

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#444
May 5, 2013
 
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Are you telling me that you are unfamiliar with the Bible?
Are you a Christian? Do you believe that Bible is the word of God?
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No I am very familiar with the bible. Which is why I asked you for the verses in question just in case I missed something

And to answer your questions, NO to both

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#445
May 5, 2013
 
Flygerian wrote:
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No I am very familiar with the bible. Which is why I asked you for the verses in question just in case I missed something
And to answer your questions, NO to both
Here's the verse I'm referring to specifically:

Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
Cisco Kid

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#446
May 5, 2013
 
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>Really? The industrious people who built America where not christians,
Really???
If the people who built this country weren't Christian, what were they?
Hindu? Muslim? Communists? Atheists? Satanists?

You can't really be this much of an idiot.
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do you believe any wealthy person believes in your god?
Of course, I know several personally.
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And the lifestyle of people in countries that do not follow any of the Abrahamic cults have a higher standard of living
Name three of those countries.
Flygerian

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#447
May 5, 2013
 
Nuggin wrote:
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Here's the verse I'm referring to specifically:
Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God
Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
That doesnt say to kill people that believe in other religions does it? But to kill people (that agreed to the covenant with this God ALLEGEDLY) that try to convince others to worship different gods. Is that not what it says?
Flygerian

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#448
May 5, 2013
 
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Name three of those countries.
Why settle for three? SHould have had her name them all since she stated in a fashion that shows theres more than three

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#449
May 5, 2013
 
Cisco Kid wrote:
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Really???
If the people who built this country weren't Christian, what were they?
Hindu? Muslim? Communists? Atheists? Satanists?
You can't really be this much of an idiot.
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Of course, I know several personally.
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Name three of those countries.
Sweden, New Zealand, Switzerland, Denmark, Norway
Flygerian

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May 5, 2013
 
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>Sweden, New Zealand, Switzerland, Denmark, Norway
Surely you take into account that these are all European countries free from outside oppression right? While other Abrahamic countries (such as in the Middle East) are CONSTANTLY being invaded by foreign threats such as the country me and you reside in?
Flygerian

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#452
May 5, 2013
 
Sorry thought you were in the US. Though my statement remains the same as GB is just as bad as the US when it comes to foreign affairs ESPECIALLY in the Middle East

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#453
May 5, 2013
 
Flygerian wrote:
Sorry thought you were in the US. Though my statement remains the same as GB is just as bad as the US when it comes to foreign affairs ESPECIALLY in the Middle East
lol, I am in Florida, I just change around the home town for fun
My original point was that countries who are not christian do just as well or better than religious countries
JJJ

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#454
May 5, 2013
 
Flygerian wrote:
<. So let me get this straight, the God of Abraham who was operating amongst good and evil in the OT cannot exist because evil exists? He cannot create evil to test people? He cannot create evil just for whatever reason comes to mind? YOU are the one saying "God is _____" just as others do. But as I said one term is not going to FULLY EXPLAIN an Infinite being.
Fly...... you have to open your mind. It's stuck in ideas that were written over 2000 years ago..

Have a read of what you have just said above....

Please tell me that you understand the fundamental wrong in this.....
Flygerian wrote:
<.? He cannot create evil to test people? He cannot create evil just for whatever reason comes to mind?.
If a human did what you are saying above he would be exhibiting evidence of being a psychopath....

Who that is a sane rational person would 'create evil for whatever reason comes to mind'

Once again your argument is basically "This is god he can do what he wants'... and in this you fail to see that you consciousness is in its early development....you reasoning in flawed at the basest level.

We are discussing a divine being (if one exists) and surely in truth that whatever god you believe in... should he not be the very pinnicale of the best qualities that we humans can aspire to?

Tell me Fly... what would you think of father that 'created evil to test his children'

Can you not see how infantile and fundamentally wrong that notion is? Who would want to test their children... only a parent that does not trust them, and distrust simply mirrors one self...

And yet you believe that this is the level that your god operates on..... a level that is a little above the beast... so alaong with the fact that god is angry, vengeful, jealous we can add he lacks trust in short he is exibiting the symptoms of if not a psychopath then a mentally unbalanced being at theh very least.....

Members of our species have evolved way past the level that you are reasoning on....what you believe is backward, four thousand years backward....

Open your mind Fly.... trust there is so much to see...

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