Brand New Church ( BNC )
southside

United States

#22 May 8, 2008
Kerdy 1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Its a business, not a church.
The pastor does say he is glad they can all meet at BNC corporately.
southside

United States

#23 May 8, 2008
The pastor does the the people that he is glad that they can meet at BNC corporately.
Light Sensitive

Brooklyn, NY

#24 May 8, 2008
does the deli serve the body and blood of J on a roll..??

maybe some mary's milk for the coffee.

and the coffee pot never runs dry because J keeps it full...
Wayne

United States

#25 May 8, 2008
Well, if the "believers" would stop bankrolling this fraud he would soon be out of business, right? This is what's wrong with the church today, they are trying to do anything to get the world into the church when it is plain God doesn't want it. He will draw who He wants OUT of the world.

Since: May 08

Lead Hill

#26 May 8, 2008
This is true Kerdy 1

Shannon O'dell talks about all the money that people are giving and the numbers of people that are attending. BNC went from 60 to 600 just in months after taken over churches and sucking people in like a vacuum. BNC also has a membership class you have to attend and complete so the leaders/pastor can tell if you can become a member of BNC. BNC wants to see your W2's after you become a member. This is more than a business.
angelina

London, UK

#27 May 8, 2008
Concerned Christian wrote:
This is true Kerdy 1
Shannon O'dell talks about all the money that people are giving and the numbers of people that are attending. BNC went from 60 to 600 just in months after taken over churches and sucking people in like a vacuum. BNC also has a membership class you have to attend and complete so the leaders/pastor can tell if you can become a member of BNC. BNC wants to see your W2's after you become a member. This is more than a business.
Whats a W2?
Wayne

United States

#28 May 8, 2008
Concerned Christian wrote:
This is true Kerdy 1
Shannon O'dell talks about all the money that people are giving and the numbers of people that are attending. BNC went from 60 to 600 just in months after taken over churches and sucking people in like a vacuum. BNC also has a membership class you have to attend and complete so the leaders/pastor can tell if you can become a member of BNC. BNC wants to see your W2's after you become a member. This is more than a business.
Membership went from 60 to 600??? Poor gullible people trying to buy their way into heaven.
george anderson jr

Winter Garden, FL

#29 May 8, 2008
angelina wrote:
<quoted text>Whats a W2?
w2 is a tax form we AMERICANS use here in the UNITED STATES.
angelina

London, UK

#30 May 8, 2008
george anderson jr wrote:
<quoted text>w2 is a tax form we AMERICANS use here in the UNITED STATES.
Thanks:)
Oh thats bad, I would never agree to show a tax return to a church leader. That would set the alarms ringing.
george anderson jr

Winter Garden, FL

#31 May 8, 2008
angelina wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks:)
Oh thats bad, I would never agree to show a tax return to a church leader. That would set the alarms ringing.
amen to that and your welcome.

Since: May 08

Lead Hill

#32 May 8, 2008
BNC pastor makes a pastors blog video and you can see them on youtube. On this link below, he is show off BNC's coffee shop and close to the end Shannon says to the people, quote "have eyes, plagiarize".
Plagiarism is stealing, which is one of the commandments.( thou shalt not steal )

Jim

Harrison, AR

#33 May 9, 2008
I encourage all of you to actually look at the church and make your own decision. Its a lot easier to just believe what everyone else says. They've got a website, www.brandnewchurch.com , so you don't have to rely on someone else's warped opinion...

I also know for a fact that the W2 thing is a flat out lie.

Since: May 08

Lead Hill

#34 May 9, 2008
BNC pastor makes a pastors blog video and you can see them on youtube. On this link below, he is show off BNC's coffee shop and close to the end Shannon says to the people, quote "have eyes, plagiarize".
Plagiarism is stealing, which is one of the commandments.( thou shalt not steal )
__________

BNC put a giant billboard that says,
( Love GOD hate church, we do to )

Since: May 08

Lead Hill

#35 May 9, 2008
BNC also have banners out in front of the church by the highway that reads,
( sleep in on sunday)

Is not sunday the Sabbath,

Exodus 20:8
"Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy.

Deuteronomy 5:12
"Observe the Sabbath day by keeping it holy, as the LORD your God has commanded you.

Does this sound like GOD wants his church to sleep in on sunday?

Since: May 08

Lead Hill

#36 May 9, 2008
Ezekiel 20:12
Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them.

Hebrews 4:1
Therefore, since the promise of entering his rest still stands, let us be careful that none of you be found to have fallen short of it.

Since: May 08

Lead Hill

#37 May 9, 2008
Ok, I was misinformed about the W2...
You have my apologize

But the rest of, can you say it is a lie?

Since: May 08

Lead Hill

#38 May 9, 2008
O’Dell said he regularly shares his vision.

This is a quote that Shannon told new papers.

Again, it is his vision not GOD's.

“You don't have legs, Lt. Dan!”

Since: Apr 08

Hometown in Alberta, Canada!

#39 May 10, 2008
I sent an email to BNC, and was responded to by Zach Gilliam. I then sent a second email asking if I could post the initial response he gave me (any letter sent to me is always treated as highly confidential, unless permission is given otherwise) and permission was given. due to the space limitations on these 'post things' the email will be retyped word for word on (hopefully) the next 'post thing'.

“You don't have legs, Lt. Dan!”

Since: Apr 08

Hometown in Alberta, Canada!

#40 May 10, 2008
This is frustrating but I can't post it all in one block, so I'll have to break it up into smaller bites, to be numbered sequentially.

“You don't have legs, Lt. Dan!”

Since: Apr 08

Hometown in Alberta, Canada!

#41 May 10, 2008
(email response,#1)

Hello! Sorry for the late response, your email go buried and I'm just now going through and verifying I responded to all my emails this week!

YOur first question is about the website freechurchridereport.com . The context for the freechurchridereport.com website and videos is that we did a series titled "Pocket Change". In this series, we discovered what God has to say about our finances.

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