I HATE God & Christians
Jeff

San Jose, CA

#377 Mar 21, 2013
John from Texas wrote:
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What are you talking about Jeff? You are back peddling from a conclusion.
You are just spewing rhetoric.
When there is nothing to life but the physical then nothing ultimately matters. Sacrificing your life would be meaningless. This is the atheist position.

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Albuquerque

#378 Mar 21, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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Why should integrity matter in the atheist worldview? If things don't ultimately matter then integrity would not either.
You've been making the same stupid argument for quite some time.

The only difference between you and an atheist, besides your mental mush, is atheists are not obliged to worship and invisible flying sky thingy.

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Albuquerque

#379 Mar 21, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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I can see you are still having problems following an argument to its conclusion.
Pontification is not an argument.
nc resident

Charlotte, NC

#380 Mar 21, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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Why should integrity matter in the atheist worldview? If things don't ultimately matter then integrity would not either.
Integrity is not something you aspire to impress someone Else. It is a man being able to look at himself in the mirror truthfully. If the only reason you act morally is because you are afraid of God's wrath then you have no integrity, you are dishonest to yourself. Everything done to please God stems from love not fear.
nc resident

Charlotte, NC

#381 Mar 21, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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When there is nothing to life but the physical then nothing ultimately matters. Sacrificing your life would be meaningless. This is the atheist position.
Love matters, are you stating atheists are incapable of love?
--Lucifer--

Jacksonville, FL

#382 Mar 21, 2013
Lucifer_666 wrote:
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Love your name.
Thanks, man.

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>:)

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Since: Nov 08

Swift Water,NY

#383 Mar 22, 2013
susanblange wrote:
Christians more than atheists have no moral compass. They believe they are saved thru grace and they're strengthened in their wickedness. They do not believe in even attempting to fulfill the law because they can't keep it perfectly, but nobody can. That's what the Day of Atonement is for.
What is an Atheist's moral compass? No one is "strengthened in their wickednes". You know nothing about keeping "the law".God
knows that humans are not able to fullfill the law perfectly. It made it hard for a reason. So that we would learn what his forgiveness meant and what mercy is.

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Since: Nov 08

Swift Water,NY

#384 Mar 22, 2013
Correction: HE made it...

“Game Over”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#385 Mar 22, 2013
Robert Laity wrote:
Correction: HE made it...
I like IT better. Can we go with that?
Reality

San Diego, CA

#386 Mar 22, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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No. Atheists can live lives with integrity but they can't justify their doing so by their atheism.
I'm an atheist regarding all of the so called sacred ancient religions like yours and others..I can't justify the life of integrity I live because of my belief as a atheist because there is no guidelines to fallow, atheism is an individual belief.
I can however justify why I live a life of integrity by saying this. I love people and treat them the way I would want to be treated..
Jeff wrote:
<quoted text>Atheism as a worldview is bankrupt. It cannot explain anything nor does it inspire people to do great things like sacrificing their lives for atheism for example.
If every religious person loved people and treated them like they would want to be treated, Ireland would have always been a peaceful place to live..Also, there would have never been religious inquisitions that slaughtered and tortured innocent humans in the name of your so called loving bible god..Your religions history shows there's no loving God behind it, and that can never be erased..

I'm sure this is too much logic and rational thought for you to bear so you'll probably come back with scripture or something equally implausible considering the facts I present you with..
Jeff

San Jose, CA

#387 Mar 22, 2013
Reality wrote:
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I'm an atheist regarding all of the so called sacred ancient religions like yours and others..I can't justify the life of integrity I live because of my belief as a atheist because there is no guidelines to fallow, atheism is an individual belief.
I can however justify why I live a life of integrity by saying this. I love people and treat them the way I would want to be treated..
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If every religious person loved people and treated them like they would want to be treated, Ireland would have always been a peaceful place to live..Also, there would have never been religious inquisitions that slaughtered and tortured innocent humans in the name of your so called loving bible god..Your religions history shows there's no loving God behind it, and that can never be erased..
I'm sure this is too much logic and rational thought for you to bear so you'll probably come back with scripture or something equally implausible considering the facts I present you with..
All you can do as an atheist is to make things up as you live. You cannot justify "I love people and treat them the way I would want to be treated.." Another atheist could live by saying "I live only for myself". In atheism there is no difference between the 2. One is not better than the other because there is no objective standard to compare with in atheism. In atheism, life is ultimately meaningless. Once you die, you cease to exist. Nothing matters.
reality

San Diego, CA

#388 Mar 22, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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All you can do as an atheist is to make things up as you live. You cannot justify "I love people and treat them the way I would want to be treated.." Another atheist could live by saying "I live only for myself". In atheism there is no difference between the 2. One is not better than the other because there is no objective standard to compare with in atheism. In atheism, life is ultimately meaningless. Once you die, you cease to exist. Nothing matters.
You're an offense to me saying "I make things up as I live"..I was born with a love for people and the reason I treat them the way I want to be treated..

There are good atheists and bad atheists just like there are good religious people and bad religious people. This is just one more little piece of evidence showing what religion isn't..

I couldn't help noticing you didn't respond to the main gist of my post about the history of your religion..I wouldn't want to respond either if I was a duped christian like you..
Jeff

San Jose, CA

#389 Mar 22, 2013
reality wrote:
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You're an offense to me saying "I make things up as I live"..I was born with a love for people and the reason I treat them the way I want to be treated..
There are good atheists and bad atheists just like there are good religious people and bad religious people. This is just one more little piece of evidence showing what religion isn't..
I couldn't help noticing you didn't respond to the main gist of my post about the history of your religion..I wouldn't want to respond either if I was a duped christian like you..
You are avoiding the implications of atheism. There is no such thing in atheism as "treating people the way you want to be treated." You stole that from Christianity.

It is true that some in history have used belief in God to abuse people. Those that do, are abusing what Christ taught and stood for.
Keep in mind that there has been more good done in the name of Christ than for any other reason. What you don't see in history are people doing good because atheism compels them to. That's why you don't see any great charities in history based on atheism.
reality

San Diego, CA

#390 Mar 22, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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You are avoiding the implications of atheism. There is no such thing in atheism as "treating people the way you want to be treated." You stole that from Christianity.
We are not talking about atheism, but people who are atheists..You are duped and deluded by your antique book or you would be able to see reality..

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Jeff wrote:
<quoted text>It is true that some in history have used belief in God to abuse people. Those that do, are abusing what Christ taught and stood for.
That's the understatement of the century when considering the religious inquisitions and the Ireland conflicts to name just two..
Jeff wrote:
<quoted text>Keep in mind that there has been more good done in the name of Christ than for any other reason.
That's very biased you saying that as a christian without backing it up with REALITY!!!
Jeff wrote:
<quoted text>What you don't see in history are people doing good because atheism compels them to. That's why you don't see any great charities in history based on atheism.
Atheism isn't a religion or book of instructions on how to live, don't you get it..Atheists give because they care and have no other reason to help people in need..In contrast, some religious people give so they get a ticket to the heaven they believe in..
Jeff

San Jose, CA

#392 Mar 23, 2013
reality wrote:
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We are not talking about atheism, but people who are atheists..You are duped and deluded by your antique book or you would be able to see reality..
Warren Buffet:
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That's the understatement of the century when considering the religious inquisitions and the Ireland conflicts to name just two..
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That's very biased you saying that as a christian without backing it up with REALITY!!!
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Atheism isn't a religion or book of instructions on how to live, don't you get it..Atheists give because they care and have no other reason to help people in need..In contrast, some religious people give so they get a ticket to the heaven they believe in..
Why would atheist give or care if ultimately it does not matter? After all, when you die you cease to exist and are forgotten. Why would it matter? You should just live for yourself since this is the only life you got. Once its over, its over forever.
I don't get it.
Hmmm

Syracuse, NY

#393 Mar 23, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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Why would atheist give or care if ultimately it does not matter? After all, when you die you cease to exist and are forgotten. Why would it matter? You should just live for yourself since this is the only life you got. Once its over, its over forever.
I don't get it.
So if an atheist DOES care about others and gains no eternal reward for it, then it seems to me there's something fundamentally heroic about him, and it doesn't say much for the motives of religious people. You're implying that because life is finite, there's no reason for a person to act with benevolence? Maybe "being good" has INTRINSIC value, and the Golden Rule simply makes good sense, whether there's a deity watching or not. I've always thought that was the case. Integrity is what you do when NOBODY's looking, isn't it? Do we require carrot and stick if we're mature? If we act out of either fear of punishment or hope of reward, that's pretty hollow virtue.

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#394 Mar 23, 2013
Only the wicked will de cut off on VWD Day, everybody else will get a second chance. It doesn't matter if you're atheist or orthodox Jewish. All of the righteous will be united and their won't be anymore atheists, they will either follow the God of Abraham or they will follow Jesus(who has been reincarnated). At the very end it will come down to belief, all who call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

John from Texas

“It's all in your head”

Since: Dec 12

United States

#395 Mar 23, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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When there is nothing to life but the physical then nothing ultimately matters. Sacrificing your life would be meaningless. This is the atheist position.
I don't think that is the atheist position. You have been grossly misinformed. I suspect atheist have just as much love as anyone (if not more) and are probably more apt to sacrifice their lives than scared cowardly fundamentalist Christians.

John from Texas

“It's all in your head”

Since: Dec 12

United States

#396 Mar 23, 2013
susanblange wrote:
Only the wicked will de cut off on VWD Day, everybody else will get a second chance. It doesn't matter if you're atheist or orthodox Jewish. All of the righteous will be united and their won't be anymore atheists, they will either follow the God of Abraham or they will follow Jesus(who has been reincarnated). At the very end it will come down to belief, all who call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Not really!
one way

Christiana, PA

#397 Mar 23, 2013
And I LOVE GOD and Christians.

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