Why don't atheist and skeptics make a...
Sola Scriptura

United States

#41 Dec 3, 2012
Roland_Deschain wrote:
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AFAIAC atheism is true until people like you provide evidence which supports your deity claims beyond all reasonable doubt.
AFAIAC atheism is false unless people like you provide evidence that your unbelief is established in firm, unshakeable proof that a Deity does NOT exist. And no, you opinion is not enough.

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Santa Fe, NM

#42 Dec 3, 2012
Romans Road wrote:
Why don't atheist and skeptics make a positive case for their beliefs?
The atheists have no case.
One only has to look around and see the beauty of God's creation to believe in it.(The sun, moon, planets, skies, mountains, rivers, oceans, lakes, plains, valleys, swamps, animals, humans, trees, plants, etc etc). How a person can believe that everything just magically evolved so perfect is beyond me.
But you deny everything we have learned about creation in favor of your silly talking snake theory. Besides, if people were purple and had two heads you'd say the same thing.
Sola Scriptura

United States

#43 Dec 3, 2012
par five wrote:
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I believe in many things, but what I do believe in has nothing to do with the supernatural. Anyway, atheist is just a word to describe someone who does not believe in the existence of a god or gods. It tells you absolutely nothing more than that about the person. Atheism is not a belief system no matter what you may say. I do not have the baggage that comes with being a Christian with your belief in magic and the supernatural. Having such beliefs it is you who needs to make a positive case in order for your beliefs to be taken seriously. Atheism has no need to make a positive case for itself to be taken as true, the word is self- explanatory, just as it is when someone says they are American or Italian. A belief system, or making a case for it doesn't have any relevance!
You don't get off that easy. Atheism is a religion, no matter what you say. It is the religion of SELF, that SELF can solve the problems of the world if let go long enough. Atheism's god is Evolution. The trinity of atheism is abio-genesis, evolution and humanism. If you believe in no God, then you must believe in and worship Evolution.

Your religion is just like any other, except more dead than any one of them.

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Santa Fe, NM

#44 Dec 3, 2012
Sola Scriptura wrote:
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AFAIAC atheism is false unless people like you provide evidence that your unbelief is established in firm, unshakeable proof that a Deity does NOT exist. And no, you opinion is not enough.
You've been pandering that same stupid argument for as long as I've known you and it's as ridiculous now as it has always been.

“Jesus=only way into Heaven”

Since: Nov 12

saved by grace through faith

#45 Dec 3, 2012
15th Dalai Lama wrote:
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But you deny everything we have learned about creation in favor of your silly talking snake theory. Besides, if people were purple and had two heads you'd say the same thing.
Genesis tells me all about creation. No one has yet proved it wrong.

Roland_Deschain

“Naturalism - Nature is Enough”

Since: Nov 07

Ashford, UK

#46 Dec 3, 2012
Jack wrote:
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Not good enough. If atheism is true then it needs to stand on its own claims that there is no such thing as God. There are have been powerful arguments for the existence of God that have been argued for centuries. I can't think of one that an atheist has ever refuted.
It's good enough for me and this is all that matters. AFAIAC any 'arguments' you produce HAVE to be supported by empirical evidence and convince me beyond all reasonable doubt. Currently they do not. Also, I am not making any absolute claims regarding my position. I suggest you read my Topix Profile. You can do this by clicking on the picture to the left of my posts.
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#47 Dec 3, 2012
Romans Road wrote:
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Genesis tells me all about creation. No one has yet proved it wrong.
Nonsense. Modern science KNOWS that there were never two "first humans."

Such a thing is totally impossible just by the DNA evidence.

Plus humanity evolved slowly and gradually out of earlier, proto-human species with no clear dividing line.

There are never any two "first humans."

Genesis refuted.
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#48 Dec 3, 2012
There is also no evidence for a worldwide flood 6000 years ago. Impossible.

Again, Genesis refuted.
Sola Scriptura

United States

#49 Dec 3, 2012
15th Dalai Lama wrote:
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But you deny everything we have learned about creation in favor of your silly talking snake theory. Besides, if people were purple and had two heads you'd say the same thing.
Just what have you learned about creation? That the universe was in chaos and after billions and billions of years settled down enough to form planets and solar systems and stars and galaxies etc., etc., etc.?

Catholics like you mock their own belief and God along with it. GOD created the universe in PERFECTNESS and ordrly because He is NOT the author of confusion.

And every time you mention the talking snake it reminds me of how stupid you really are about anything biblical.

Roland_Deschain

“Naturalism - Nature is Enough”

Since: Nov 07

Ashford, UK

#50 Dec 3, 2012
Sola Scriptura wrote:
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AFAIAC atheism is false unless people like you provide evidence that your unbelief is established in firm, unshakeable proof that a Deity does NOT exist. And no, you opinion is not enough.
I take it this is your opinion?

Anyway, I suggest you read my Topix profile rather than jumping to conclusions about what I believe / do not believe.
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#51 Dec 3, 2012
Jack wrote:
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Not good enough. If atheism is true then it needs to stand on its own claims that there is no such thing as God.
That isn't a positive claim that must be supported by evidence.

Atheism says there is no evidence for God and no need to believe in one until convincing evidence is presented.

Up to you Christians to present positive, universally-acceptable empirical evidence for the existence of your God. So, far? FAILURE.

Saying "sunsets are nice, so there must be a God" is beyond feeble as an attempt at evidence.
Jack wrote:
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There are have been powerful arguments for the existence of God that have been argued for centuries. I can't think of one that an atheist has ever refuted.
Then you must not have read many books by atheists or about atheism.

They've ALL been refuted!
Sola Scriptura

United States

#52 Dec 3, 2012
15th Dalai Lama wrote:
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You've been pandering that same stupid argument for as long as I've known you and it's as ridiculous now as it has always been.
Well, if it's a stupid argument, answer it. You being the most stupid fundie atheist here it should be easy for you to prover there is no God.

And this crap about your Mass and being a catholic is over. You are nothing but a sniveling hypocritical liar.

Roland_Deschain

“Naturalism - Nature is Enough”

Since: Nov 07

Ashford, UK

#53 Dec 3, 2012
Romans Road wrote:
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Genesis tells me all about creation. No one has yet proved it wrong.
It does it twice actually.

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#54 Dec 3, 2012
Sola Scriptura wrote:
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Catholics like you mock their own belief and God along with it. GOD created the universe in PERFECTNESS and ordrly because He is NOT the author of confusion.
Ha. Your god wasn't even able to write his own book well enough to avoid confusion. Christians can't even agree on something as fundamental as salvation (faith alone? faith and works? predestination?).
Sola Scriptura

United States

#55 Dec 3, 2012
Gillette wrote:
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Nonsense. Modern science KNOWS that there were never two "first humans."
Such a thing is totally impossible just by the DNA evidence.
Plus humanity evolved slowly and gradually out of earlier, proto-human species with no clear dividing line.
There are never any two "first humans."
Genesis refuted.
DNA also proves Bigfoot is real. Whod'a thunk it?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/27/bigf...

Bigfoot is real. At least that's what veterinarian Melba S. Ketchum claims after a five-year study of more than 100 DNA samples that she believes comes from the elusive hairy beast.

“Invisible Pink Unicorn”

Since: May 08

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#56 Dec 3, 2012
Jack wrote:
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This is not true. Atheist have knowledge about things that have nothing to do with science. They know what beauty is and when they are loved. You don't know these things by science.
Actually we do know by science what beauty and love are.

Humans find other humans beautiful because there bodies are symmetrical. Another factor is our different immunity systems.

Collage aged boys were asked to wear a T-shirt for a few days to make it smelly then collage aged girls picked there favored men by smelling the dirty shirts. Guess what girls picked men with immunity systems that are strong where hers is weak making for better stronger offspring.
Sola Scriptura

United States

#57 Dec 3, 2012
Roland_Deschain wrote:
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I take it this is your opinion?
Anyway, I suggest you read my Topix profile rather than jumping to conclusions about what I believe / do not believe.
I read your profile. You're an atheist. Your point?

“Invisible Pink Unicorn”

Since: May 08

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#58 Dec 3, 2012
Jack wrote:
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Do you think a husband who cheats on his wife should feel guilty? How does the atheist handle his guilt?
Cheating on anything is wrong and should cause guilt. I married my high school sweet heart 27 years ago, proud to say we are still sweethearts to each other with no reason for guilt.
I would like to think that an atheist that has cheated on spouse would free themselves of that guilt by coming clean to said spouse.
Does asking an invisible dude for forgiveness free a Christian of guilt?

Roland_Deschain

“Naturalism - Nature is Enough”

Since: Nov 07

Ashford, UK

#59 Dec 3, 2012
Sola Scriptura wrote:
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Just what have you learned about creation? That the universe was in chaos and after billions and billions of years settled down enough to form planets and solar systems and stars and galaxies etc., etc., etc.?
Catholics like you mock their own belief and God along with it. GOD created the universe in PERFECTNESS and ordrly because He is NOT the author of confusion.
Neil Degrasse Tyson - Stupid Design

Sola Scriptura

United States

#60 Dec 3, 2012
Gillette wrote:
There is also no evidence for a worldwide flood 6000 years ago. Impossible.
Again, Genesis refuted.
http://www.earthage.org/EarthOldorYoung/scien...

Polystrate Fossils:
One of the strongest pieces of evidence for a worldwide flood is the existence of what Rupke termed "polystrate fossils." Such fossils are found all over the world. They usually consist of fossil trees that were buried upright, and which often traverse multiple layers of strata such as sandstone, limestone, shale, and even coal beds. 1,2,3,4 They range in size from small rootlets to trees over 80 feet long. 3 Sometimes they are oblique in relation to the surrounding strata, but more often they are perpendicular to it. For example, at Joggins, Nova Scotia, polystrate tree (and root) fossils are found at various intervals throughout roughly 2,500 feet of strata. Many of these are from 10-20 feet long, 5,6 and, at least one was 40 feet long.

Again, Gillette refuted.

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