Why don't atheist and skeptics make a...

Why don't atheist and skeptics make a positive case for their beliefs?

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Jack

San Jose, CA

#1 Dec 3, 2012
Christians are constantly on the defensive and having to defend what they believe. Why can't atheists and skeptics defend what they believe?

Roland_Deschain

“Naturalism - Nature is Enough”

Since: Nov 07

Ashford, UK

#2 Dec 3, 2012
Jack wrote:
Christians are constantly on the defensive and having to defend what they believe. Why can't atheists and skeptics defend what they believe?
Such as?
agnostic

Tazewell, TN

#3 Dec 3, 2012
Jack wrote:
Christians are constantly on the defensive and having to defend what they believe. Why can't atheists and skeptics defend what they believe?
Your question is invalid. From what I have heard in my life and seen all over the various Topix forums, atheists and skeptics DO defend what they believe.

Defending and proving are two entirely separate concepts. Neither side has and never will be able to PROVE anything. The final step in "proving" is making the other side believe, which generally doesn't ever happen. Those who claim to have been staunch non-believers before becoming believers typically state that they have had some type of profound and moving experience. How many times have you heard of someone becoming a believer simply through someone else's words?

Since: Aug 08

Somewhere in Ireland

#4 Dec 3, 2012
Roland_Deschain wrote:
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Such as?
Yes indeed, such as?
Jack

San Jose, CA

#5 Dec 3, 2012
Such as positive reasons why they don't think God exist. Christian give positive reasons for the existence of God and the reliability of the Bible as part of the evidence for the existence of God. The atheist will not accept this.
So what does the atheist offer as proof or reasons for their beliefs? Saying there is not enough evidence for God is not an argument for their position.

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Albuquerque

#6 Dec 3, 2012
Jack wrote:
Christians are constantly on the defensive and having to defend what they believe. Why can't atheists and skeptics defend what they believe?
Do you believe in leprechauns? Why or why not?

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Albuquerque

#7 Dec 3, 2012
Jack wrote:
Such as positive reasons why they don't think God exist. Christian give positive reasons for the existence of God and the reliability of the Bible as part of the evidence for the existence of God. The atheist will not accept this.
So what does the atheist offer as proof or reasons for their beliefs? Saying there is not enough evidence for God is not an argument for their position.
Not enough evidence? There is no evidence. Atheists know this.

Why mention the Bible? All you accomplish is reminding atheists that you believe in talking animals and giants and magicians and witches and all kind of silliness.
Jack

San Jose, CA

#8 Dec 3, 2012
15th Dalai Lama wrote:
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Do you believe in leprechauns? Why or why not?
Never seen any positive evidence. Would it be impossible for them to exist?
Jack

San Jose, CA

#9 Dec 3, 2012
15th Dalai Lama wrote:
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Not enough evidence? There is no evidence. Atheists know this.
Why mention the Bible? All you accomplish is reminding atheists that you believe in talking animals and giants and magicians and witches and all kind of silliness.
Then why adhere to a belief system for which there no evidence for it?

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Albuquerque

#10 Dec 3, 2012
Jack wrote:
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Then why adhere to a belief system for which there no evidence for it?
Belief and disbelief are not the same thing.

How much time do you spend not believing in leprechauns. Be honest.

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Albuquerque

#11 Dec 3, 2012
Jack wrote:
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Never seen any positive evidence. Would it be impossible for them to exist?
You avoided the question.

Do you believe in leprechauns?

Roland_Deschain

“Naturalism - Nature is Enough”

Since: Nov 07

Ashford, UK

#12 Dec 3, 2012
Jack wrote:
Saying there is not enough evidence for God is not an argument for their position.
Why?

Since: Aug 08

Somewhere in Ireland

#13 Dec 3, 2012
15th Dalai Lama wrote:
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Do you believe in leprechauns? Why or why not?
Leave the little folk out of this!
Cujo

Leask, Canada

#14 Dec 3, 2012
Jack wrote:
Christians are constantly on the defensive and having to defend what they believe. Why can't atheists and skeptics defend what they believe?
Do you believe in Thor or Zeus? No? Make a positive case for it.

Since: Aug 08

Somewhere in Ireland

#15 Dec 3, 2012
Jack wrote:
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Never seen any positive evidence. Would it be impossible for them to exist?
Don't get them angry, you won't like them when they get angry!

Since: Dec 11

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#16 Dec 3, 2012
Jack wrote:
Saying there is not enough evidence for God is not an argument for their position.
Yeah...it is.

“Invisible Pink Unicorn”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#17 Dec 3, 2012
Jack wrote:
Such as positive reasons why they don't think God exist. Christian give positive reasons for the existence of God and the reliability of the Bible as part of the evidence for the existence of God. The atheist will not accept this.
So what does the atheist offer as proof or reasons for their beliefs? Saying there is not enough evidence for God is not an argument for their position.
Gee, we atheist only believe in one less god then you. Where your nice answer to why man's other few thousand gods don't exist.
Jack

San Jose, CA

#18 Dec 3, 2012
15th Dalai Lama wrote:
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Belief and disbelief are not the same thing.
How much time do you spend not believing in leprechauns. Be honest.
If you disbelieve in something then you must believe in something in its place. Its not how much time someone spends believing in something but is there any reason to do so.
So what are the positive reasons for an atheist?
Jack

San Jose, CA

#19 Dec 3, 2012
Roland_Deschain wrote:
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Why?
Because atheism needs to make a positive case for itself if its to be taken as true.
Jack

San Jose, CA

#20 Dec 3, 2012
Cujo wrote:
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Do you believe in Thor or Zeus? No? Make a positive case for it.
This is not about theist beliefs but atheists.

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