The Christian Cult and Mind Control

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#1 Mar 17, 2013
There is no question Christianity is a cult. Children are often indoctrinated at a young age to accept without question that ridiculous claims are true. These children are told at a young age about greatness of Christian Heaven and punishment of Christian Hell. These children are dragged to places of worship. They are taught in schools and at home. They are warned about the penalties of not believing. They are taught to pray to this god and see others praying and everyone else buying into it. They see the examples set by their parents. They are often not exposed at all to other religions except they are taught that everything else is not true. They don't have the liberty of being of reasonable age with clear mind to review all the religions without parental bias and everything mentioned above to make up their own mind based on just the facts. Children usually adopt the religion of their parents: regardless of what it is. Children are often taught that believing in god is good and even in liberal households if things go awry, they see society and their parent's examples they learned and when they want to change, they turn to the god that is popular in their location and that they learned about.

Reward and punishment is used to entice belief. The empty promise of heaven if you believe and or behave and the empty threat of hell if you don't. Classic form of manipulation at work when there is no REAL reason to believe the core claims at hand. They need to entice you.

What kind of god really cares about belief? It is a means of manipulation. Belief is important because they need to draw you in to accept all the other things. Religion is a known tool for leaders to use to keep people in line -- especially poor ones that have nothing else to look forward to. God and heaven and hell given them reason to stay in line.

• Why does god base your eternal life on whether or not you believe in him?
• In the scenario of god rewarding belief, a person indoctrinated and genetically less prone to be inquisitive and not question things is REWARDED for all of eternity where the person that is inquisitive is punished. Being gullible is then an advantage and could save your a$$ for all of eternity. It would be the changing factor in salvation!
• Since god is so focused on belief, we can say that god wants you to be a historian and that being the historian he wants you to be, you will be granted eternal life!
A key part of being a historian is examining evidence. Why is it the expert historians tell us the bible is a religious book and not really a history book? Why can't they prove the bible's claims are true? I guess god likes the guessing historian who acts on things despite the evidence?
• Did you read the news today? Some guy parted the Red Sea and last week we have video footage of a magical burning bush that talks. CNN is all over it.
• If god is so intent on belief, why does he throw us thousands of curve balls ---- many other gods. Frankly, how is the objective person supposed to tell the difference? It's a crap shoot and what is at stake is my eternal salvation? Seems pretty petty doesn't it?
In the event that indoctrination hasn't worked, your god rewards lucky gamblers!
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#2 Mar 17, 2013
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#3 Mar 17, 2013
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#4 Mar 17, 2013
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Prophet of Jesus Christ

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#5 Mar 17, 2013
How did you get to be so retarded?
little lamb

Australia

#6 Mar 17, 2013
cvor wrote:
There is no question Christianity is a cult. Children are often indoctrinated at a young age to accept without question that ridiculous claims are true. These children are told at a young age about greatness of Christian Heaven and punishment of Christian Hell. These children are dragged to places of worship. They are taught in schools and at home. They are warned about the penalties of not believing. They are taught to pray to this god and see others praying and everyone else buying into it. They see the examples set by their parents. They are often not exposed at all to other religions except they are taught that everything else is not true. They don't have the liberty of being of reasonable age with clear mind to review all the religions without parental bias and everything mentioned above to make up their own mind based on just the facts. Children usually adopt the religion of their parents: regardless of what it is. Children are often taught that believing in god is good and even in liberal households if things go awry, they see society and their parent's examples they learned and when they want to change, they turn to the god that is popular in their location and that they learned about.
Reward and punishment is used to entice belief. The empty promise of heaven if you believe and or behave and the empty threat of hell if you don't. Classic form of manipulation at work when there is no REAL reason to believe the core claims at hand. They need to entice you.
What kind of god really cares about belief? It is a means of manipulation. Belief is important because they need to draw you in to accept all the other things. Religion is a known tool for leaders to use to keep people in line -- especially poor ones that have nothing else to look forward to. God and heaven and hell given them reason to stay in line.
• Why does god base your eternal life on whether or not you believe in him?
• In the scenario of god rewarding belief, a person indoctrinated and genetically less prone to be inquisitive and not question things is REWARDED for all of eternity where the person that is inquisitive is punished.
You should see the results of indoctrinating going on in schools today with telling kids they are evolved from a monkey...You should see the results of that indoctrination , premarital sex..why they want to vaccinate kids against STD's caused from promiscuous sex, and vaccinations are recommended for age nine years old ..for goodness sakes.

Then there is the drug problem [in schools] and the language ..well that is another area altogether.

Also because God is no longer taught in the class room , behavioral problems are coming to the fore..like bullying and the phenomenon of school shootings

Oh yes we can really see how taking God out the class room has really advanced the kids...

Also its a false premise that Christians don't investigate

QUOTE>>..

"Most of the colleges in the United States that started over 300 years ago were Bible-proclaiming schools originally. Harvard and Yale (originally Puritan) and Princeton (originally Presbyterian) once had rich Christian histories.

In the United Kingdom, the earliest university-type establishment was probably the College, established by the Celtic preacher St. Illtyd in about AD 500.

Oxford University was established by various religious orders.

Likewise, Cambridge University was established in 1209 by Christian leaders.

Saint Andrews, Scotland’s oldest university, was founded principally for the teaching and study of theology.

many of the later colleges were founded by Bible-believing Christians. The University of Edinburgh had a thoroughly evangelical beginning, being founded under Presbyterian auspices."

so the poster fabricating lies ..because unbelievers are so gullible and easy to manipulate through propaganda..Say something often enough and people believe it..People with no knowledge that is...

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#7 Mar 17, 2013
little lamb wrote:
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You should see the results of indoctrinating going on in schools today with telling kids they are evolved from a monkey...You should see the results of that indoctrination , premarital sex..why they want to vaccinate kids against STD's caused from promiscuous sex, and vaccinations are recommended for age nine years old ..for goodness sakes.
Then there is the drug problem [in schools] and the language ..well that is another area altogether.
Also because God is no longer taught in the class room , behavioral problems are coming to the fore..like bullying and the phenomenon of school shootings
Oh yes we can really see how taking God out the class room has really advanced the kids...
Also its a false premise that Christians don't investigate
QUOTE>>..
"Most of the colleges in the United States that started over 300 years ago were Bible-proclaiming schools originally. Harvard and Yale (originally Puritan) and Princeton (originally Presbyterian) once had rich Christian histories.
In the United Kingdom, the earliest university-type establishment was probably the College, established by the Celtic preacher St. Illtyd in about AD 500.
Oxford University was established by various religious orders.
Likewise, Cambridge University was established in 1209 by Christian leaders.
Saint Andrews, Scotland’s oldest university, was founded principally for the teaching and study of theology.
many of the later colleges were founded by Bible-believing Christians. The University of Edinburgh had a thoroughly evangelical beginning, being founded under Presbyterian auspices."
so the poster fabricating lies ..because unbelievers are so gullible and easy to manipulate through propaganda..Say something often enough and people believe it..People with no knowledge that is...
No school teaches any student that they evolved from a monkey, and why, cause it is not true.
Humans and chimps share a common ancestor.
ToE is real, is a fact, and not much you can do about it.
Sure, public schools most likely have changed much since I was there, yet, I was there when religion was a part of public schools.
You are wrong.
The problems with public education are not to blame on 'taking religion out' since religion was not taken out at all.
Prayer is still allowed in public schools, just not teacher/principal lead prayers. Private prayers? Of course!
If any student of public schools is a Christian, then their religion goes with them wherever they go (or at least it should).

As for what the originator of this thread said about religion, Christianity......certainly much of it is true.
Children most likely follow in their parents lead as to religion.
And, I don't remember any Protestant church I ever attended presenting other faiths as a better choice than theirs, lol. Nope.
little lamb

Australia

#8 Mar 18, 2013
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>No school teaches any student that they evolved from a monkey, and why, cause it is not true.
Humans and chimps share a common ancestor.
ToE is real, is a fact, and not much you can do about it.
Sure, public schools most likely have changed much since I was there, yet, I was there when religion was a part of public schools.
You are wrong.
The problems with public education are not to blame on 'taking religion out' since religion was not taken out at all.
Prayer is still allowed in public schools, just not teacher/principal lead prayers. Private prayers? Of course!
If any student of public schools is a Christian, then their religion goes with them wherever they go (or at least it should).
As for what the originator of this thread said about religion, Christianity......certainly much of it is true.
Children most likely follow in their parents lead as to religion.
And, I don't remember any Protestant church I ever attended presenting other faiths as a better choice than theirs, lol. Nope.
Nope...man was created in the image of God..and no common ancestor was a monkey..Each species breeds with its own kind.

You know science [ not Christians] tried to breed artificially with monkeys and humans , but all their experiments failed..shocking really what they tried to do..

Scripture is clear we only breed according to "kind"..

Over here there was talk of making a room available for Islamic prayer..when a teacher was asked " how about a prayer room for Christians?"

They replied " Christians don't take their religion serious "

We have found that even though a Christian child takes their FAITH with them where ever they go...that it is culpable on the parents for deliberately placing an inexperienced and vulnerable youth in a hostile environment to their Faith

Parents are actually setting their kids up without protecting them against the ridicule and exclusion from peers...they are failing in their duty as carers of the most valuable possession of any country..its children.

“God Loves Ilks!”

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#9 Mar 18, 2013
little lamb wrote:
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Nope...man was created in the image of God..and no common ancestor was a monkey..Each species breeds with its own kind.
You know science [ not Christians] tried to breed artificially with monkeys and humans , but all their experiments failed..shocking really what they tried to do..
Scripture is clear we only breed according to "kind"..
Over here there was talk of making a room available for Islamic prayer..when a teacher was asked " how about a prayer room for Christians?"
They replied " Christians don't take their religion serious "
We have found that even though a Christian child takes their FAITH with them where ever they go...that it is culpable on the parents for deliberately placing an inexperienced and vulnerable youth in a hostile environment to their Faith
Parents are actually setting their kids up without protecting them against the ridicule and exclusion from peers...they are failing in their duty as carers of the most valuable possession of any country..its children.
Dear, being made in God's image means our spirit, not our physical appearance.

"a hostile environment to their faith"???
lol
The U.S. is made up of many various faiths, or many who follow no faith.

(Any ridiculing done in schools against any child because of his/her religion should be immediately addressed, yes.
Religion is one of our precious freedoms.)

As for public schools, I repeat:
prayer is still allowed in them, just not teacher or principal lead prayer, which is against the law.
Teachers and principals of public schools are government employees.
Have you ever heard of separation of church and state?

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#10 Mar 18, 2013
cvor wrote:
There is no question Christianity is a cult. Children are often indoctrinated at a young age to accept without question that ridiculous claims are true. These children are told at a young age about greatness of Christian Heaven and punishment of Christian Hell. These children are dragged to places of worship. They are taught in schools and at home. They are warned about the penalties of not believing. They are taught to pray to this god and see others praying and everyone else buying into it. They see the examples set by their parents. They are often not exposed at all to other religions except they are taught that everything else is not true. They don't have the liberty of being of reasonable age with clear mind to review all the religions without parental bias and everything mentioned above to make up their own mind based on just the facts. Children usually adopt the religion of their parents: regardless of what it is. Children are often taught that believing in god is good and even in liberal households if things go awry, they see society and their parent's examples they learned and when they want to change, they turn to the god that is popular in their location and that they learned about.
Reward and punishment is used to entice belief. The empty promise of heaven if you believe and or behave and the empty threat of hell if you don't. Classic form of manipulation at work when there is no REAL reason to believe the core claims at hand. They need to entice you.
What kind of god really cares about belief? It is a means of manipulation. Belief is important because they need to draw you in to accept all the other things. Religion is a known tool for leaders to use to keep people in line -- especially poor ones that have nothing else to look forward to. God and heaven and hell given them reason to stay in line.
• Why does god base your eternal life on whether or not you believe in him?
• In the scenario of god rewarding belief, a person indoctrinated and genetically less prone to be inquisitive and not question things is REWARDED for all of eternity where the person that is inquisitive is punished. Being gullible is then an advantage and could save your a$$ for all of eternity. It would be the changing factor in salvation!
• Since god is so focused on belief, we can say that god wants you to be a historian and that being the historian he wants you to be, you will be granted eternal life!
A key part of being a historian is examining evidence. Why is it the expert historians tell us the bible is a religious book and not really a history book? Why can't they prove the bible's claims are true? I guess god likes the guessing historian who acts on things despite the evidence?
• Did you read the news today? Some guy parted the Red Sea and last week we have video footage of a magical burning bush that talks. CNN is all over it.
• If god is so intent on belief, why does he throw us thousands of curve balls ---- many other gods. Frankly, how is the objective person supposed to tell the difference? It's a crap shoot and what is at stake is my eternal salvation? Seems pretty petty doesn't it?
In the event that indoctrination hasn't worked, your god rewards lucky gamblers!
So, take that chance with Him -- www.scribd.com/doc/31322017 ...

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#11 Mar 18, 2013
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:-Hebrews 9:27-

How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him; -Hebrews 2:3-

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#12 Mar 18, 2013
little lamb wrote:
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and no common ancestor was a monkey..
Correct. No one has ever claimed our common ancestor was a monkey.
little lamb wrote:
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Each species breeds with its own kind.
If they did not it would DISPROVE evolution.
little lamb wrote:
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You know science [ not Christians]
Scientists come from all faiths, they are not just atheists. The guy who proposed the Big Bang Theory (for example) was a catholic lay preacher.
little lamb wrote:
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tried to breed artificially with monkeys and humans , but all their experiments failed..shocking really what they tried to do..
Do you have links to support your claims or are you just commenting from a position of ignorance?
little lamb

Australia

#13 Mar 18, 2013
Roland_Deschain wrote:
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Do you have links to support your claims or are you just commenting from a position of ignorance?
google it.. and you will get names and dates and experiments.

By the way you lie about saying they never believed we came from monkeys.."Lucy" is a good example...he he that one makes me laugh finding her bones over several kilometres

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#14 Mar 18, 2013
Prophet of Jesus Christ wrote:
How did you get to be so retarded?
Are you asking Jesus-- the Holy Ghost--- or Moses?

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#15 Mar 18, 2013
little lamb wrote:
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1. Nope...man was created in the image of God..
2. We have found that even though a Christian child takes their FAITH with them where ever they go...that it is culpable on the parents for deliberately placing an inexperienced and vulnerable youth in a hostile environment to their Faith
1. Nope man was created in the image of an alien. Since you have no proof it's BS without proof versus BS without proof. It is however clear that god serves a purpose and would have been invented if he didn't exist. He is a savior when people need saving......he is a comforter when people need comforting....he is a forgiver when people need forgiving...he is a guide when you need direction.....on and on. He is a crutch. Mix that with people that are desperate and ignorant particularly primitive people...what do you really expect? Is this concept that foreign to you?

2. Christian child?? What a disgrace that people brainwash their children instead of having them make up their own minds. Amazing how a child can be christian when they can't even read yet. Putrid filth

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#16 Mar 18, 2013
little lamb wrote:
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1.You should see the results of indoctrinating going on in schools today with telling kids they are evolved from a monkey...You should see the results of that indoctrination , premarital sex..why they want to vaccinate kids against STD's caused from promiscuous sex, and vaccinations are recommended for age nine years old ..for goodness sakes.

2. Also because God is no longer taught in the class room , behavioral problems are coming to the fore..like bullying and the phenomenon of school shootings
1. what school teaches that -- fundamentalist christian teachers that lie or misunderstand scientific fact of evolution? Teaching science is not indoctrination. You are in denial and lying. Teaching science is NOT indoctrination. Brainwashing children with unproven religions and enticing them to believe with reward and punishment (heaven and hell) is indoctrination. It is mind control. It is pure filth. At worst -- teaching a scientific theory that is wrong results in misinformation being spread.

2. Assertion without evidence. Do you have studies that demonstrate this? Go figure that Christians in the US make up over 70% of the population yet make up over 75% of the prison population. I'd say this statistic more than puts a damper on your erroneous baseless claim. Explain that one

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#17 Mar 18, 2013
Its really something that taking godbout of school is a bad thing and effects morals. How simple are these people? Atheists have morals...and not only that....they don't need a god to tell them what to do. They do it because they have real morality and compassion. Not that some religious dont. These mlrons that think u need god for morality are delusional and simple and living a lie. Their lives are lies supported by other lies. They weave a web of bs to defend their baseless obviously false beliefs. 75 percent of prisoners are christian and these morons try to assert that taking god out of school affects morals. Maybe u need to drop the dumb stories and be an actual parent that cultivates proper behavior. God is bullcrap. If u need to believe in god to act morally u have serious serious problems. Its like threatening your kids to behave or else santa won't come or if they do behave he will give them a present. Religion is not any different except a bigger reward and punishment. Step up as a parent and leave myths and legends out of it and educate yourself and your children. Prisons aren't full of college graduates. Wise up and stop living a collection of lies. Teach your children compassion and set an example and explain to them the results of their actions and hild them accountable. Talk to them. Educate them.

Leave the bibke for story time.....in fact....lwt them read it after they graduate college..........afraid they woukd never bother huh?

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#18 Mar 19, 2013
little lamb wrote:
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google it.. and you will get names and dates and experiments.
No. YOU made the claims. YOU provide the links. If you don't I will continue to assume you are lying.
little lamb wrote:
By the way you lie about saying they never believed we came from monkeys.."Lucy" is a good example...
You are wrong.

"Like a chimpanzee, Lucy had a small brain, long, dangly arms, short legs and a cone-shaped thorax with a large belly. But the structure of her knee and pelvis show that she routinely walked upright on two legs, like us.

This form of locomotion, known as 'bipedalism', is the single most important difference between humans and apes, placing Lucy firmly within the human family."

Bipedalism is the most distinctive, apparently earliest, defining characteristic of humans," says Johanson, now director of the Institute of Human Origins at Arizona State University."

http://tinyurl.com/3d7h4l
little lamb wrote:
he he that one makes me laugh finding her bones over several kilometres
Do you ever do ANY research prior to posting? Claims regarding a knee joint have been made by creationists. These have proven to be false.

"Johanson's writings have always been clear about the fact that his 1973 knee joint was a separate find from Lucy. All of the bones shown in photographs of Lucy were found at a single location."

http://tinyurl.com/ad6r8
little lamb

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#19 Mar 19, 2013
cvor wrote:
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1. Nope man was created in the image of an alien. Since you have no proof it's BS without proof versus BS without proof. It is however clear that god serves a purpose and would have been invented if he didn't exist. He is a savior when people need saving......he is a comforter when people need comforting....he is a forgiver when people need forgiving...he is a guide when you need direction.....on and on. He is a crutch. Mix that with people that are desperate and ignorant particularly primitive people...what do you really expect? Is this concept that foreign to you?
2. Christian child?? What a disgrace that people brainwash their children instead of having them make up their own minds. Amazing how a child can be christian when they can't even read yet. Putrid filth
Sorry disagree with you ..every man has a god given conscience and in some its been desensitized but it exists even if you can't see it

And even in the court cases in Nuremberg for the nazi's..

"Obeying orders" was not a legitimate excuse for murder on such a grand scale..they were culpable and held guilty because every man should listen to his conscience.

Have you ever wondered why a conscience is so much part of every human being??

Its God given because every human sort of knows that the ideal is to LOVE

And 'LOVE" is the image of God..

None of us live up to that ideal..and yes we do have to have God teach us to Love..Just look around at how mankind treats each other and try and tell me that we LOVE as we should ..
little lamb

Australia

#20 Mar 19, 2013
Roland_Deschain wrote:
<quoted text>
No. YOU made the claims. YOU provide the links. If you don't I will continue to assume you are lying.
<quoted text>
You are wrong.
"Like a chimpanzee, Lucy had a small brain, long, dangly arms, short legs and a cone-shaped thorax with a large belly. But the structure of her knee and pelvis show that she routinely walked upright on two legs, like us.

http://tinyurl.com/ad6r8
QUOTE ...Lucy lacked feet and hand bones, but by looking at other A. afarensis skeletons we are able to reconstruct what Lucy's feet and hands looked like." end of quote

How laughable..she had no hands or feet .."they surmised "

and gave it to her..

Then they went on to say

QUOTE .."The feet and hands were similar to that of humans. The feet have toes that are slightly longer than humans. Some researchers believe that the big toe was positioned in line with the other toes as in humans, while others believe that it was opposable like that of modern apes (Leaky 1997-98). The hands however, are not like humans, but rather like apes" end of Quote

Have a look at that!!!..it so funny..shows you the "exact" "hic" science involved in these guys workings out

first they had no hands and feet so the 'surmised' she must have had hands and feet and then they proceed to tell you what the hands and feet mean..ha ha ha ha ha

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