What is a Conservative?
OKAY

United States

#124 Feb 14, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
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He's a conservative. Hate is all he has to go on.
Look at the Conservative positions:
- They hate the poor
- They hate women
- They hate minorities
- They hate education
- They hate homosexuals
- They hate anyone who is a different religion
- They hate equality
- They hate children
On and on and on.
I can't find a single thing that Conservatives are _for_. It's always what they are against.
When was the last time you saw a Conservative propose a policy that helped anyone other than the extremely rich?
OK, I'm a 'conservative' and your list is pure bullshit...

Since: Sep 07

Valley Village, CA

#125 Feb 14, 2013
OKAY wrote:
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OK, I'm a 'conservative' and your list is pure bullshit...
Really?

What's your position on food stamps?
What's your position on welfare?
What's your position on mandatory transvaginal ultrasounds?
What's your position on immigration?
What's your position on "elitists"?
What's your position on head start?
What's your position on evolution?
What's your position on global warming?
What's your position on marriage equality?

Let's get specific about what on my list is "pure bullshit".

Since: Sep 08

Anderson, IN

#126 Feb 14, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
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There is a difference between being a "conservative" or a "liberal" and being a "Republican" or a "Democrat".
Today's Republican party is not the Republican party of the 1850s. It's not even the Republican party of the 1980s.
Where Republicans used to be "liberal" (1850s) or "moderate" (1980s), today they are hard line far right Conservatives.
Reagan would be labelled a socialist by the current Republican party and wouldn't make it through the first debate.
His positions on gun control, immigration and taxes on the rich are the same if not LEFT of Obama's.
Well said. The more control the rich upper 1% get in the government, the more far right wing nut the government gets.

Since: Sep 08

Anderson, IN

#127 Feb 14, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
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Really?
What's your position on food stamps?
What's your position on welfare?
What's your position on mandatory transvaginal ultrasounds?
What's your position on immigration?
What's your position on "elitists"?
What's your position on head start?
What's your position on evolution?
What's your position on global warming?
What's your position on marriage equality?
Let's get specific about what on my list is "pure bullshit".
Think OKAY will respond?

Since: Sep 07

Valley Village, CA

#128 Feb 14, 2013
Cookie_Parker wrote:
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Think OKAY will respond?
Doubt it. The Conservatives love to claim they are in favor of various things, but really they are just against other people having anything.

Want to see a Conservative dance? Find one who gets his mistress pregnant after spending 20 years railing against abortion.

Suddenly, "It's a complicated issue".

Since: Sep 08

Anderson, IN

#129 Feb 15, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
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Doubt it. The Conservatives love to claim they are in favor of various things, but really they are just against other people having anything.
Want to see a Conservative dance? Find one who gets his mistress pregnant after spending 20 years railing against abortion.
Suddenly, "It's a complicated issue".
LOL!!!

That is so true. The hypocrisy ooozes out of them. And they really project onto the President and democrats what they themselves do.

It was a good effort to get them to talk, but the republican right wingers have no clue on what they believe politically. They've been trained, like monkeys to simply knee jerk emotion on wedge issues only.

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#130 Feb 15, 2013
Cookie_Parker wrote:
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LOL!!!
That is so true. The hypocrisy ooozes out of them. And they really project onto the President and democrats what they themselves do.
It was a good effort to get them to talk, but the republican right wingers have no clue on what they believe politically. They've been trained, like monkeys to simply knee jerk emotion on wedge issues only.
You really just described yourself! lol

Since: Sep 08

Anderson, IN

#131 Feb 15, 2013
Huntington Guy wrote:
<quoted text>You really just described yourself! lol
Do you ever get tired of portraying yourself as such a stupid and mindless person? Ever want to project adulthood? Ever get tired of being nasty and negative? I sure would think a normal human being would get tired of it. Are you normal?
OKAY

United States

#132 Feb 15, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
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Really?
What's your position on food stamps?
What's your position on welfare?
What's your position on mandatory transvaginal ultrasounds?
What's your position on immigration?
What's your position on "elitists"?
What's your position on head start?
What's your position on evolution?
What's your position on global warming?
What's your position on marriage equality?
Let's get specific about what on my list is "pure bullshit".
Foodstamps and welfare? WPA
TVU? can't make anyone feel 'guilty'
Immigration? Make 'em come in the way my parents did...with a sponsor
HS? Gives 'em a start in the right direction
EVO? I have my opinion (but then I am a 'fundie' right?)
GW? definitely something going on there.
ME? I have my opinion (but then I am a 'fundie' right?)

Since: Sep 07

Valley Village, CA

#133 Feb 15, 2013
OKAY wrote:
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Foodstamps and welfare? WPA
You'll have to clarify here. Sounds like you are suggesting that we put a 5 yr old kid who is getting food to work shoveling ditches.
TVU? can't make anyone feel 'guilty'
What other law can you name that forces an unneccessary medical proceedure for the EXPRESS purpose of guilt?

That's not small government. That's literally codifying the rule that you get to shove an unwanted instrument up a woman's vagina simply to make her feel more bad about being in an unfortunate situation.

Oh, and if she changes her mind and has a kid she can't afford, then she needs to be handed a shovel. See above.
Immigration? Make 'em come in the way my parents did...with a sponsor
How does that work for a kid that's been here since they were 2 yrs old?
HS? Gives 'em a start in the right direction
Then why are Conservatives pushing to end it?
EVO? I have my opinion (but then I am a 'fundie' right?)
Science doesn't deal with opinions. Science deals with facts. The fact that you think this is something about which someone can "have their opinion" indicates that you aren't particularly educated.
GW? definitely something going on there.
An interesting position that most Conservatives now hold after thirty years of denying it was happening at all.
ME? I have my opinion (but then I am a 'fundie' right?)
Equality is also something which is not "opinion based".

Equality is equality. Denying someone rights because your mother told you they aren't as good as you is not a valid argument.

Since: Feb 13

San Diego, CA

#134 Feb 15, 2013
it's a general term.. no one actually knows because there is no real set definition.
Frank

Fayetteville, NC

#135 Feb 18, 2013
Sceptical_Mal wrote:
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But you said you hate no one Frank. Are we still friends?
Sure scep.

Admittedly, I can't help but hate most liberals.

Since: Sep 07

Valley Village, CA

#136 Feb 18, 2013
Frank wrote:
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Sure scep.
Admittedly, I can't help but hate most liberals.
And I say again, you have no idea what liberals are really like. You have an imaginary idea of who a liberal is.

It's like the imaginary Obama that the Conservatives hate. The one that was in the chair at the convention.

Let me ask you this:

Did the people at the Convention laugh with Eastwood took Obama to take for starting the war in Afghanistan?

Need to see a video of it?
http://mashable.com/2012/08/30/clint-eastwood...

It's minute 5.

This is a room FULL of thousands of Conservatives who apparently all blame Obama for starting the war in Afghanistan 7 YEARS before he took office.

How about you guys actually take credit for your mistakes and only hold people accountable for stuff they ACTUALLY do. Wouldn't that be amazing
OKAY

United States

#137 Feb 18, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
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1)You'll have to clarify here. Sounds like you are suggesting that we put a 5 yr old kid who is getting food to work shoveling ditches.
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2)What other law can you name that forces an unneccessary medical proceedure for the EXPRESS purpose of guilt?
That's not small government. That's literally codifying the rule that you get to shove an unwanted instrument up a woman's vagina simply to make her feel more bad about being in an unfortunate situation.
Oh, and if she changes her mind and has a kid she can't afford, then she needs to be handed a shovel. See above.
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3)How does that work for a kid that's been here since they were 2 yrs old?
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4)Then why are Conservatives pushing to end it?
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5)Science doesn't deal with opinions. Science deals with facts. The fact that you think this is something about which someone can "have their opinion" indicates that you aren't particularly educated.
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6)An interesting position that most Conservatives now hold after thirty years of denying it was happening at all.
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Equality is also something which is not "opinion based".
Equality is equality. Denying someone rights because your mother told you they aren't as good as you is not a valid argument.
1) Get real, parents work, pay taxes and become 'productive' citizens. Quite the concept huh?
2) I would like to refer to it as a 'reality check' vs sugar coating.
3) Generally, the parents would be here as well. Make them go outside and 'check in'(as a family).
4) Can't read orig
5) But science does deal with 'theories' speculation at best. Keep the 'derogatory' comments to yourself.
6) Nice 'blanket' statement
7) Equality vs agenda. Not a valid argument IMO

Since: Sep 07

Valley Village, CA

#138 Feb 19, 2013
OKAY wrote:
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1) Get real, parents work, pay taxes and become 'productive' citizens. Quite the concept huh?
So the rights and welfare of one citizen of the US are entirely dependent on whether or not a different citizen is located in an economically viable location and able to get gainful employment.

How about this, if I stop working, you stop eating. Fair?
5) But science does deal with 'theories' speculation at best. Keep the 'derogatory' comments to yourself.
Only an idiot calls a scientific theory "speculation". This is just an indication that you flunked high school science.

Don't try and penalize the education of future generations by your spectacular failures.

Gravity is not "speculation". Germs are not "speculation". Evolution is not "speculation".
OKAY

United States

#139 Feb 19, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
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So the rights and welfare of one citizen of the US are entirely dependent on whether or not a different citizen is located in an economically viable location and able to get gainful employment.
How about this, if I stop working, you stop eating. Fair?
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Only an idiot calls a scientific theory "speculation". This is just an indication that you flunked high school science.
Don't try and penalize the education of future generations by your spectacular failures.
Gravity is not "speculation". Germs are not "speculation". Evolution is not "speculation".
Was the WPA located in an economically viable location and able to get gainful employment? Hardly

If you do it on purpose, too bad...I did just out of TC...guess what? It was "find a job or die"...

It only indicates your arrogance.

Gravity I buy...

There are however, lots of holes in your 'TOE'...
Frank

Fayetteville, NC

#140 Feb 19, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
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And I say again, you have no idea what liberals are really like. You have an imaginary idea of who a liberal is.
Spent three years attending services at a zen center---most white/western zen practictioners are extreme left wing liberals (EXTREME!!!!)

Have spent plenty of time in Chapel Hill, NC (home of UNC at Chapel Hill and a hot bed of liberalism).

Have spent time in Asheville, NC (Aka the "San Francisco of the South)--another hot bed of liberalism.

Have known liberals amongst aquaintances and the like all of my life.

Most old school dems were okay people.

Unfortunately, liberalism has devolved into insanity.

Also--forget to mention--I know PLENTY of democrat voters whom aren't "liberals" and don't even really know what that word means, lol. Yeah, these are the moronic types whom vote for the free stuff and because Holly Wood promotes it.

peace

Since: Sep 07

Valley Village, CA

#141 Feb 19, 2013
OKAY wrote:
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Was the WPA located in an economically viable location and able to get gainful employment? Hardly
If you do it on purpose, too bad...I did just out of TC...guess what? It was "find a job or die"...
It only indicates your arrogance.
This would be a lot easier if you were capable of complete sentences.

A child of 5 is not able to "find a job or die". They are as much an American citizen as you or I.

It is an unreasonable position to state that simply because they are children, they deserve to starve to death.
Gravity I buy...
There are however, lots of holes in your 'TOE'...
No, in fact, there aren't any holes in TOE. Your lack of education just makes it seem that way.

It's as though you only know about the Presidents which appear on our money and assume that the years in between we didn't have presidents at all.

Get an education and these sort of positions of yours will suddenly vanish.

Funny, that's the way to cure Conservativism as well.

Since: Sep 07

Valley Village, CA

#142 Feb 19, 2013
Frank wrote:
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Spent three years attending services at a zen center---most white/western zen practictioners are extreme left wing liberals (EXTREME!!!!)
And I've seen documentaries about the KKK. The members arae extreme right wing conservatives. EXTREME!

Does that mean that all Conservatives are members of the KKK?
Have spent plenty of time in Chapel Hill, NC (home of UNC at Chapel Hill and a hot bed of liberalism).
Read: A hot bed of education.

We know that education leads to liberalism the same way that ignorance leads to Conservativism.

That's not a surprise.
Have spent time in Asheville, NC (Aka the "San Francisco of the South)--another hot bed of liberalism.
Big surprise, people fleeing from discrimination are generally not Conservatives who are in favor of discrimination.
Unfortunately, liberalism has devolved into insanity.
Give me an example of a liberal position which you think is "insane".

I'll give you an example of a Conservative position that I think is "insane".

Conservatives believe that if everyone has guns, there will be less gun violence. This position is nuts. Evidence can be found on the front page of any newspaper any day of the week. Or by googling "accidentally shot".
Yeah, these are the moronic types whom vote for the free stuff and because Holly Wood promotes it.
peace
Actually, it's the Conservatives who overwhelmingly vote for free stuff. The amount of money dedicated to "free stuff" voted in by Conservatives is about 100X as much as that voted for by liberals.

The only difference is that the free stuff the Conservatives are voting for go to the absolute riches people in the country. The ones who own FoxNews. They guys who founded the Tea Party movement and who tell Tea Partiers what to think.

Honestly, this is like you wanting to bring down the hammer on some kid who shoplifts a candy bar while completely ignoring the mass murder who is standing next to him.

Where are your priorities?
OKAY

United States

#143 Feb 19, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
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This would be a lot easier if you were capable of complete sentences.
A child of 5 is not able to "find a job or die". They are as much an American citizen as you or I.
It is an unreasonable position to state that simply because they are children, they deserve to starve to death.
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No, in fact, there aren't any holes in TOE. Your lack of education just makes it seem that way.
It's as though you only know about the Presidents which appear on our money and assume that the years in between we didn't have presidents at all.
Get an education and these sort of positions of yours will suddenly vanish.
Funny, that's the way to cure Conservativism as well.
How many '5yo' do you know living alone on 'the system?

Really? If you want to believe you came from a rock, feel free to do so...I just don't buy it...

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