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Jeff

San Jose, CA

#147 Nov 30, 2012
Romans Road wrote:
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How can you say for certain that there is no God? Who created the universe?
Don't forget who you are dealing with here. This one makes things up on the fly and whatever he-she says is indisputable truth that is not to be challenged.

“Jesus=only way into Heaven”

Since: Nov 12

saved by grace through faith

#148 Nov 30, 2012
Punisher, that anger is conviction from the Holy Spirit. I've seen it many times soul winning. You know you need Jesus, is it sin keeping you from Him? Christ will take you as you are if you truly want Him.

“Jesus=only way into Heaven”

Since: Nov 12

saved by grace through faith

#149 Nov 30, 2012
Jeff wrote:
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Don't forget who you are dealing with here. This one makes things up on the fly and whatever he-she says is indisputable truth that is not to be challenged.
Well I just pray that he comes to Jesus at some point in his life. All that anger can't be good for a person.

“No stalking allowed.”

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#150 Nov 30, 2012
-The Star Reborn- wrote:
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Pointing out your hatred and anger at everyone is not anger on my part. That is just your projection at work. It's your fundie self defense mechanism to blame others for all >>>YOUR<<< shortcomings.
Speaking of "shortcomings" I think you may be short on a lot of things.....like common sense, manners, just being human in general.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#151 Nov 30, 2012
Laci Ann 7 wrote:
<quoted text>Speaking of "shortcomings" I think you may be short on a lot of things.....like common sense, manners, just being human in general.
Which has nothing to do with my post about >>>YOU<<< So here, try again:

"Pointing out your hatred and anger at everyone is not anger on my part. That is just your projection at work. It's your fundie self defense mechanism to blame others for all >>>YOUR<<< shortcomings."

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#152 Nov 30, 2012
Romans Road wrote:
Punisher, that anger is conviction from the Holy Spirit. I've seen it many times soul winning. You know you need Jesus, is it sin keeping you from Him? Christ will take you as you are if you truly want Him.
Punisher never seems angry to me. I think you are suffering from projection of your faults into others whom you hate. So your demonic MISrepresentation of a "god" can do nothing for him. He's fine.
Punisher

Yonkers, NY

#153 Dec 1, 2012
Romans Road wrote:
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I read the bible multiple times a year. You can't deny bible prophesy, you can't deny the power of the name of Jesus.
You are angry at God for something someone did to you. It's time to forgive, give your past to Jesus. There are no true atheists, why get upset over something you claim not to believe in?
Wrong ALL wrong.

Xtians like you are so obsessed with judging others you cant see the forest for the trees.

No one hurt me, stop with your lame and adolescent psychology, you're as bad at it as you are reading the Bible. Nothing like wnat YOU think happened caused me to put the myths of your Religion down. Not one thing you can think of was involved.

What annoys me about Xtians like you is your narrow-mindedness and and attempts to control what others think, feel and believe based on your deplorable reading of a book you say you love.

All my annoyance is directed strictly at Xtians like you. No hatred for you, just annoyed...

Oh yes there are true Atheists, and there you go again being the judge and jury for others.

Its funny that you wont answer my direct Q's but choose instead to psychoanalyze me, and badly too. Typical American Xtian BS. Cant answer direct Q's out of fear and loathing you might say something off-script.

You're a coward. And I need no psych degree to figure that out.
Punisher

Yonkers, NY

#154 Dec 1, 2012
Romans Road wrote:
Punisher, that anger is conviction from the Holy Spirit. I've seen it many times soul winning. You know you need Jesus, is it sin keeping you from Him? Christ will take you as you are if you truly want Him.
Even if I needed some Savior it would not be the one you peddle.

No anger here, just annoyance at Xtians like you who cant think off script...and a script that you adopted from others...

Fear is your main reason for your faith.
Punisher

Yonkers, NY

#155 Dec 1, 2012
Jeff wrote:
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Don't forget who you are dealing with here. This one makes things up on the fly and whatever he-she says is indisputable truth that is not to be challenged.
Made up?

Lets see what ya got there Jeffy Weffy. Where are my made-up things?

For the record, I be a He.

Since: Jan 10

Charleston, WV

#156 Dec 1, 2012
Punisher wrote:
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Even if I needed some Savior it would not be the one you peddle.
No anger here, just annoyance at Xtians like you who cant think off script...and a script that you adopted from others...
Fear is your main reason for your faith.
Religion is for those afraid of hell, spirituality is for those who have already been there.:)
Punisher

Yonkers, NY

#157 Dec 1, 2012
Jeff wrote:
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What???? I have seen some real bizarre stuff by skeptics etc but this just might be the most absurd thing anyone has ever posted--"Jesus would defend Judas you illiterate fool!"
Are you going to sit there in your waste and tell us that Jesus would condemn Judas for his actions in a part he was chosen to play?

Can you cite the scripture where YOU know the exact and final Judgment of Judas?

Answer this; If Judas didnt betray Jesus, who would have and then how would the Jesus death story play out? The Bible story has always relied on the classic Greek tragedy paradigm. There's even the deus ex machina at the end...

Like I said, I dont know why Xtians attempt to read a book they have already decided on the full meanings of the many intricate and nuanced stories. Its like you watch the movie, then read (try to) the book and dismiss all the details and nuances in the written story because they don't conform to the movie. Which of course was much easier for you to swallow as pictures and such do all the thinking for you.

Its clear that several of you Xtians here are as close to illiterate as one can be and still form sentences that make some sense...and if illiterate isnt the proper word, maybe just not very well read at all. Like books, and a variety of genres, were something you avoided during your education. Which I will surmise ended after Community College...well it ended long before that...but I have to at least allow for that much...

get your faith out of the way and read the Bible, you'll discover so much more than a series of stories for you to figure out how to judge others with.
Punisher

Yonkers, NY

#159 Dec 1, 2012
Romans Road wrote:
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I read the bible multiple times a year. You can't deny bible prophesy, you can't deny the power of the name of Jesus.
You are angry at God for something someone did to you. It's time to forgive, give your past to Jesus. There are no true atheists, why get upset over something you claim not to believe in?
Puh-lease. You read the parts you like, and the ones your preacher/teacher might point out. The ones that you can use as cannon fodder in your lame attempts to defend your Religion and make irrelevant points with...

When was the last time you read ALL of the OT? Not pieces, but all of it?

Oh I can and do deny Bible prophesy. So there!

The word Jesus does hold power, but not as you think. Many names and other terms have come to us thru history that all hold some power in our cultures and imaginations.

Stop trying to hold your faith intact by trying to convince me of the truth of your myths. It wont work, deflecting is not a good way to deal with ones own doubts.
Punisher

Yonkers, NY

#160 Dec 1, 2012
Romans Road wrote:
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How can you say for certain that there is no God? Who created the universe?
Because I can. But its mostly that I deny any presentation of this God so far put forth by any of a few hundred differing beliefs systems. With that epic lack of proof for their claims - its not a far leap to say there is no God. If one exists, it ain't whats been presented by the worlds religions.

No WHO created the Universe. As to the exact manner, I dont know. Nor do I care. Its there, its working and that's all that matters to me.

Since: Jan 10

Charleston, WV

#161 Dec 1, 2012
The bible is allegory to live your life by in a civilized manner. Science is the truth of how a creator made the universe, the laws of physics are the hand of whichever god one believes in.

“Jesus=only way into Heaven”

Since: Nov 12

saved by grace through faith

#162 Dec 1, 2012
Punisher wrote:
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Wrong ALL wrong.
Xtians like you are so obsessed with judging others you cant see the forest for the trees.
No one hurt me, stop with your lame and adolescent psychology, you're as bad at it as you are reading the Bible. Nothing like wnat YOU think happened caused me to put the myths of your Religion down. Not one thing you can think of was involved.
What annoys me about Xtians like you is your narrow-mindedness and and attempts to control what others think, feel and believe based on your deplorable reading of a book you say you love.
All my annoyance is directed strictly at Xtians like you. No hatred for you, just annoyed...
Oh yes there are true Atheists, and there you go again being the judge and jury for others.
Its funny that you wont answer my direct Q's but choose instead to psychoanalyze me, and badly too. Typical American Xtian BS. Cant answer direct Q's out of fear and loathing you might say something off-script.
You're a coward. And I need no psych degree to figure that out.
No one is judging you, we are all sinners. Romans 3:10- As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

I'm just not buying your atheist story, I believe you are angry at God about something.
Punisher

Yonkers, NY

#163 Dec 1, 2012
-The Star Reborn- wrote:
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Punisher never seems angry to me. I think you are suffering from projection of your faults into others whom you hate. So your demonic MISrepresentation of a "god" can do nothing for him. He's fine.
Anger is not part of it for me.

They're the angry ones, because they cant fathom that others wont believe as they do and wont swallow their lame excuses for interpretations of things they do not do on their own, but instead swallow like pup/cub would the regurgitated food from a parent.

Xtianity without anger is like a chocolate chip cookie without the chips. Anger is what keeps way too many Xtians fed and going in their faith, but its like processed sugar, it might give ya a jolt and maybe sustain you for a little while...but eventually you crash and crave real spiritual nourishment that isnt processed and fed to you.

I have met a few xtians who are actually spiritually enlightened (when its real its not hard to miss) and who did the actual hard work to get there...and they are truly brave men and women.

Not like the ones we see here...they're like the out of shape weekend warriors who go play some sport on the weekends, who sprain all sorts of things, and come to work Monday all sore and useless - but tell exaggerated stories of their athletic performances on the field.
Punisher

Yonkers, NY

#164 Dec 1, 2012
BTW; you Icon bashers. when you hit me up with the negative ones, I know I'm hitting home-runs. Thanks for the support!
Punisher

Yonkers, NY

#165 Dec 1, 2012
Romans Road wrote:
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I read the bible multiple times a year. You can't deny bible prophesy, you can't deny the power of the name of Jesus.
You are angry at God for something someone did to you. It's time to forgive, give your past to Jesus. There are no true atheists, why get upset over something you claim not to believe in?
And to date you have NOT answered my Q. And I know I might be wasting my time as you're too much of a coward to answer it, but lets try again.

Where does Jesus mention the Bible as the be-all and end-all of his message/work, etc ? Where?

Can you answer me?

And I think I asked another direct Q too..something along the lines of; was Jesus a true human in and of human flesh all the time, 24/7 for his entire life - or was he a God manifested in the form of human flesh?

“Jesus=only way into Heaven”

Since: Nov 12

saved by grace through faith

#166 Dec 1, 2012
Punisher wrote:
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Puh-lease. You read the parts you like, and the ones your preacher/teacher might point out. The ones that you can use as cannon fodder in your lame attempts to defend your Religion and make irrelevant points with...
When was the last time you read ALL of the OT? Not pieces, but all of it?
Oh I can and do deny Bible prophesy. So there!
The word Jesus does hold power, but not as you think. Many names and other terms have come to us thru history that all hold some power in our cultures and imaginations.
Stop trying to hold your faith intact by trying to convince me of the truth of your myths. It wont work, deflecting is not a good way to deal with ones own doubts.
I read the entire bible multiple times a year. I start in Genesis and end in Revelation and then back to Genesis again. I don't skip any parts in the bible.

Why are you are posting on a Christian forum and getting upset that Christians are here sharing the gospel?
Jeff

San Jose, CA

#167 Dec 1, 2012
Punisher wrote:
<quoted text>And to date you have NOT answered my Q. And I know I might be wasting my time as you're too much of a coward to answer it, but lets try again.
Where does Jesus mention the Bible as the be-all and end-all of his message/work, etc ? Where?
Can you answer me?
And I think I asked another direct Q too..something along the lines of; was Jesus a true human in and of human flesh all the time, 24/7 for his entire life - or was he a God manifested in the form of human flesh?
The only teachings we have of Jesus is found only in the NT. That means there is nothing outside of NT that can claim to be His teachings.
Jesus was a full human being 24/7 as well as God. Philippians 2:
5 Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped,
7 but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men.
8 Being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross.

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