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Kelly

Eastwood, Australia

#2 Aug 17, 2011
When did Horus live? What year? Was it before Jesus? If so then this is a concern for sure as it seems that the Savior story of Jesus was told before Jesus through Horus.
Matthew

Eastwood, Australia

#3 Aug 17, 2011
What if I told you that there was once an ancient religion which described God as a being who:

Conceived by a virgin mother named Meri, and had a stepfather named Seb (Joseph). Was born in a cave, his birth announced by an angel, heralded by a star and attended by shepherds. Attended a special rite of passage at the age of twelve and there is no data on the child from the age of 12 to 30
Was baptized in a river at the age of 30, and his baptizer was later beheadedHad 12 disciples
Performed miracles, exorcized demons, raised someone from the dead, walked on water
Was called “Iusa”, the "ever-becoming son" and the "Holy Child". Delivered a "Sermon on the Mount", and his followers recounted his sayings
Was transfigured on the Mount Was crucified between two thieves, buried for three days in a tomb, and was resurrected Called “Way”,“the Truth the Light”,“Messiah”,“God's Anointed Son”,“Son of Man”,“Good Shepherd”,“Lamb of God”,“Word made flesh”,“Word of Truth”, "the KRST" or "Anointed One”

Was "the Fisher" and was associated with the Fish, Lamb and Lion. Came to fulfill the Law, and was supposed to reign one thousand years

Would you recognize this religious figure? Sound like someone you know? Are you thinking about Jesus?

Well, of course, we are describing the figure of Horus!! What, did you think we were talking about Jesus? It sure sounds like Jesus doesn’t it? Would it shake your faith to discover that Horus was an Egyptian god who was worshipped thousands of years before the time of Christ?

So it seems the Jesus story is just a carbon copy of Horus. So it seems that Jesus' story is a scam!
Idi O Syncrasy

Farmington, CA

#4 Aug 17, 2011
History and the human condition has only so many outcomes, events or possibilities in any given scenario.
As time travels on there is every reason to believe that in some instances and some events there will seem to be similarities or duplications in particular situations.
There are only so many events and combinations of events that can play out in this tragedy we call life.

If one undertakes a serious study of the various plots penned by that great bard Shakespeare, you can easily turn to the Bible's Old Testament and find the same plots indeed played out.

Although when one is attempting to make a comparison between Horus and Jesus Christ, one should remember that despite some similarities of events the outcomes are very different and hugely disparate.

That being said, the derivation of the virgin birth from pagan mythology through the medium of Gentile Christians implies several inexplicable difficulties:

1) Why should the Christian recently converted from paganism revert to his pagan superstitions in his conception of Christian doctrines?

2) How could the product of pagan thought find its way among Jewish Christians without leaving as much as a vestige of opposition on the part of the Jewish Christians?

3) How could this importation into Jewish Christianity be effected at an age early enough to produce the Jewish Christian sources from which either the Evangelists or the interpolators of the Gospels derived their material?

4) Why did not the relatives of Christ's parents protest against the novel views concerning Christ's origin?

Besides, the very argument on which rests the importation of the virgin birth from pagan myths into Christianity is fallacious, to say the least. Its major premise assumes that similar phenomena not merely may, but must, spring from similar causes; its minor premise contends that Christ's virgin birth and the mythical divine sonships of the pagan world are similar phenomena.
The very contention false on the face of it.

One does well to remember the players in this game we call life.
It is wise to consider the source of such information regarding Horus, the illumination flows from the same root source as deception and confusion.
"And no wonder, for even Satan masquerades as an angel of light."
2Cor.11:14

“Yes we can. Change is good.”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#6 Aug 17, 2011
Sorry, Horus was born in a swamp, not a cave.

Horus' mother was named Isis, not Meri.

No angels or sheperds, but there was a constellation mentioned.

There are absolutely no records of Horus having baptism.

Horus had four disciples (called ‘Heru-Shemsu’). There’s another reference to sixteen followers, and a group of followers called ‘mesnui’(blacksmiths) who join Horus in battle, but are never numbered. But there’s no reference to twelve followers.

Horus never delivered a sermon, crucifixion didn't even exist then and it turns out all of your claims are false.

Ihope you didn't pay for that book.

“Proverbs 12:16”

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#7 Aug 17, 2011
Kelly wrote:
When did Horus live? What year? Was it before Jesus? If so then this is a concern for sure as it seems that the Savior story of Jesus was told before Jesus through Horus.
Which version of Horus? There are 15...

Also there are no actual similarities: Someone has already taken the liberty of debunking the Jesus/Horus thing, and was kind enough to provide credible sources to cite.

http://kingdavid8.com/Copycat/JesusHorus.html
Yesu Kristo Mwokozi wangu

Shelby, OH

#13 Aug 19, 2011
How do Christians explain HORUS?

Like this:

• Horus was born to Isis; there is no mention in history of her being called “Mary.” Moreover, Mary is our anglicized form of her real name ‘Miryam’ or Miriam.“Mary” was not even used in the original texts of Scripture.
• Isis was not a virgin; she was the widow of Osiris and conceived Horus with Osiris.
• Horus was born during month of Khoiak (Oct/Nov), not December 25. Further, there is no mention in the Bible as to Christ’s actual birth date.
• There is no record of three kings visiting Horus at his birth. The Bible never states the actual number of magi that came to see Christ.
• Horus is not a “savior” in any shape or form; he did not die for anyone.
• There are no accounts of Horus being a teacher at the age of 12.
• Horus was not “baptized.” The only account of Horus that involves water is one story where Horus is torn to pieces, with Isis requesting the crocodile god to fish him out of the water he was placed into.
• Horus did not have a “ministry.”
• Horus did not have 12 disciples. According to the Horus accounts, Horus had four semi-gods that were followers and some indications of 16 human followers and an unknown number of blacksmiths that went into battle with him.
• There is no account of Horus being betrayed by a friend.
• Horus did not die by crucifixion. There are various accounts of Horus’ death, but none of them involve crucifixion.
• There is no account of Horus being buried for three days.
• Horus was not resurrected. There is no account of Horus coming out of the grave with the body he went in with. Some accounts have Horus/Osiris being brought back to life by Isis and going to be the lord of the underworld.

http://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-myth.html

So when compared side by side, Jesus and Horus bear little, if any, resemblance to one another.

“Proverbs 12:16”

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#14 Aug 19, 2011
Well Matthew and Kelly, do you have anything you would like to add to the discussion?
Idi O Syncrasy

Farmington, CA

#15 Aug 19, 2011
EMS Servant wrote:
Well Matthew and Kelly, do you have anything you would like to add to the discussion?
Methinks the Debunk of their Scam made them Scram.

Truth can be very cathartic. 8D
Mark Luke

Sydney, Australia

#16 Oct 4, 2011
There is a false story getting around that HORUS' story is exactly like Jesus' story, but that is a LIE. They are nothing alike!

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#17 Oct 4, 2011
There are SOME similarities to be found with Jesus and Horus, but that's to be expected (as all religions copy ideas from previous sources).

What I find more interesting are the connections between Jesus and Buddha.

Since: Aug 11

Cincinnati, OH

#19 Oct 4, 2011
Kelly wrote:
When did Horus live? What year? Was it before Jesus? If so then this is a concern for sure as it seems that the Savior story of Jesus was told before Jesus through Horus.
Read this.

http://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-myth.html

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Albuquerque

#20 Oct 4, 2011
NRISCH90 wrote:
Got Stupid Questions ?
Punisher

Massapequa, NY

#21 Oct 4, 2011
Idi O Syncrasy wrote:
If one undertakes a serious study of the various plots penned by that great bard Shakespeare, you can easily turn to the Bible's Old Testament and find the same plots indeed played out.

Which all play to the much older Greek hero journey paradigm.

The Hero Journey that Jesus (allegedly) went on is the same as what the Greeks were doing in their story-telling well before Paul, et al put stylus to parchment...

Since: Aug 11

Cincinnati, OH

#22 Oct 4, 2011
15th Dalai Lama wrote:
<quoted text>Got Stupid Questions ?
GotQuestions.
Thinking

Malmesbury, UK

#23 Oct 5, 2011
You Got Stupid Answers.
NRISCH90 wrote:
<quoted text>
GotQuestions.

Since: Aug 11

Cincinnati, OH

#24 Oct 5, 2011
Thinking wrote:
<quoted text>You Got Stupid Answers.
I don't own the website. But I do like their answers a lot.
Idi O Syncrasy

Farmington, CA

#25 Oct 5, 2011
Punisher wrote:
<quoted text>Which all play to the much older Greek hero journey paradigm.
The Hero Journey that Jesus (allegedly) went on is the same as what the Greeks were doing in their story-telling well before Paul, et al put stylus to parchment...
Are you inferring the Greeks ripped off the Hebrews?

Homer's "the Iliad and the Odyssey" date from around the 8th century BC, some thousands of years after the rich Hebraic history and documentation of their reciprocal relationship with God was flowing lively and prophecying the Messianic birth of Jesus Christ.

Besides, Jesus wasn't chasing any "Golden Fleece" or "Giant one eyed Cyclops" and "aquatic singing harpies".
You must be talking about something you're imagining more than something you've actually read.
What

Huntington, WV

#26 Oct 5, 2011
Idi O Syncrasy wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you inferring the Greeks ripped off the Hebrews?
Homer's "the Iliad and the Odyssey" date from around the 8th century BC, some thousands of years after the rich Hebraic history and documentation of their reciprocal relationship with God was flowing lively and prophecying the Messianic birth of Jesus Christ.
Besides, Jesus wasn't chasing any "Golden Fleece" or "Giant one eyed Cyclops" and "aquatic singing harpies".
You must be talking about something you're imagining more than something you've actually read.
Punisher is like that though.
Thinking

Malmesbury, UK

#27 Oct 5, 2011
Why do you hate catholicism?
What wrote:
<quoted text>
Punisher is like that though.
Idi O Syncrasy

Farmington, CA

#28 Oct 5, 2011
Thinking wrote:
Why do you hate catholicism?
<quoted text>
What in tarnation makes you think Punisher is Catholic?

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