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“God Loves Ilks!”

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#123 Apr 25, 2013
little lamb wrote:
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"God loved the world so much"..is only part of the quote...you didn't finish it..and you forgot the responsibility the recipient has..
Let me finish it for you
" He sent his only begotten son , the WHOSOEVER EXERCISES FAITH in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life'
So there is a responsibility of response for what God has done in his love..and that is active FAITH in his means of saving ...Jesus Christ.
Without faith it is impossible to please him.
“Now faith is the SUBSTANCE of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.”(Hebrews 11:1)
“… as God has dealt to each one a MEASURE OF FAITH …”(Romans 12:3)
“… because your FAITH GROWS EXCEEDINGLY …”(2 Thessalonians 1:3)

Did you notice the scripture that told us that God has dealt to each one a measure of faith?

“God Loves Ilks!”

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#124 Apr 25, 2013
He is Coming Soon wrote:
<quoted text>"And it repented the Lord that he made man on the earth; and it grieved him in his heart" - Gen. 6:6. "...the whole world lieth in wickedness..." - I John 5:19. What is it you do not understand and see?
examples of giving God human emotions....

“God Loves Ilks!”

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#125 Apr 25, 2013
He is Coming Soon;
It was not destruction that Jesus was referring to........
"what we have is a poetic illustration of how God's Spirit was slowly withdrawn from antediluvian man thus explaining why people cannot live past 120 today. In other words, Genesis 6 was drawing from a very well-established oral tradition (belonging to the pan-Semitic culture), and is using it here to illustrate a truth-that the former intimacy which existed between Heaven and earth before the Flood-i.e., that little which was left of a physical "Divine spark" after the Fall of Adam-was withdrawn and the Flood itself was the benchmark for this. "
"The events depicted in Genesis are TRUE and HISTORICAL... BUT, they are not presented using literal or historical LANGUAGE, but rather in the LANGUAGE of myth. What's more, no one ever said that Genesis, or any book of Scripture, is a straight, comprehensive narrative, as opposed to a collection of various sources. The account of the Nephilim in Genesis 6 is one of these independent sources-an isolated story intended to theologically support what surrounds it. Notice, for example, that Noah himself is never mentioned in this account, nor is he or his Flood ever connected to the Nephilim. Rather, these are independent "vignettes" with no narrative connection to each other, save the intention of introducing the context of the Flood. Because man had become "fleshy" with no "heavenly virtue" in him and so God's Spirit was being slowly withdrawn (see the decreasing genealogies in Gen 5) and man was growing in wickedness.
Noah's covenant forms part of the basis of salvation history. If Noah's story is nothing more than a reworking of the Gelgamesh epic or some other myth, then St. Peter and Jesus Himself were mistaken.
Again, Noah is a historical person (although his literal name wasn't "Noah"), and the Covenant really happened. BUT, what we have in Genesis is NOT a literal historical narrative, but an account written in MYTHIC language.
"It is also true that the Flood was a major historical event in the fertile crescent that is attested to in several places. The Greeks, the Hindus, the Babylonians, and several others have stories about the Deluge. Recently, it has been shown that there was catastrophic flooding in the area of the Black Sea about 7000 years ago which inundated many coastal cities and towns very rapidly. This has been implicated by some as the flood of Noah.
We've discussed this before, but I don't believe that a "regional flood" takes care of the account in Genesis, both because Genesis is clearly speaking of a universal catastrophe (i.e., one that HAD TO affect all of the peoples outlined in Genesis 10 - a demographic stretching from Persia to Spain, and from the Ukraine to Nubia), and also because Genesis is not speaking of a literal flood at all (although floods may have been literally part of it), but rather of the "waters of chaos" (a common mythic image of pan-Semitic mythology) which are, in the Genesis narrative, first cited in Gen 1:2, then "divided" by the firmament in Genesis 1:6-7 into the "waters above" and the "water below." It is these same "waters above" and "waters below" (that is, not literal water, but the primordial principal of "chaos") which are permitted to flow back into creation (from both "above" AND "below") in Genesis 7:11, thereby destroying the world, which is presented (in Genesis' cosmology) as a kind of "bubble" surrounded by this "watery chaos" above and below. The Flood account is merely saying that God allowed "chaos" to flow back into His Creation and destroy it-that is, some universal (though unspecified) catastrophe nearly wiped mankind out. And, if we look at physical evidence before 15,000 years ago, near the end of the last Ice Age (when mankind mysteriously first appears on this planet), this approach seems to be the reality."
http://www.catholic-legate.com/Apologetics/Sc...

“Third Eye”

Since: Nov 10

You can't get there from here.

#126 Apr 25, 2013
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>“Now faith is the SUBSTANCE of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.”(Hebrews 11:1)
“… as God has dealt to each one a MEASURE OF FAITH …”(Romans 12:3)
“… because your FAITH GROWS EXCEEDINGLY …”(2 Thessalonians 1:3)
Did you notice the scripture that told us that God has dealt to each one a measure of faith?
Apparently HE forgot to give you yours...

Since: Aug 08

Somewhere in Ireland

#127 Apr 25, 2013
NDanger wrote:
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Apparently HE forgot to give you yours...
A supposedly omniscient being with amnesia? Now there's a thought!
Fremont Rose

Pioneer, CA

#128 Apr 25, 2013
par five wrote:
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A supposedly omniscient being with amnesia? Now there's a thought!
Which is it, you hate your mom, she hates you or both? Your vile attacks against God will not get her to love you. I suspect that you were the left out child. Your mom left you outside to never come home, but you were always a slow learner. Homosexuality is a mental illness, hasn't your suicide attempts proven that.
Fremont Rose

Pioneer, CA

#129 Apr 25, 2013
par five wrote:
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A supposedly omniscient being with amnesia? Now there's a thought!
You're just nasty. A supposedly normal gay male having unprotected anal sex and getting AIDS? Now there's a bright thought.
Fremont Rose

Pioneer, CA

#130 Apr 25, 2013
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>examples of giving God human emotions....
You mean the Bible. Did you ever get the point that God made man in his image, not the other way around?
Fremont Rose

Pioneer, CA

#131 Apr 25, 2013
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>“Now faith is the SUBSTANCE of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.”(Hebrews 11:1)
“… as God has dealt to each one a MEASURE OF FAITH …”(Romans 12:3)
“… because your FAITH GROWS EXCEEDINGLY …”(2 Thessalonians 1:3)
Did you notice the scripture that told us that God has dealt to each one a measure of faith?
Yes and you have received none. Your faith was measured as empty. You couldn't pray a cold away.

“Born again atheist”

Since: Jun 12

Melbourne

#132 Apr 26, 2013
Fremont Rose wrote:
<quoted text>You're just nasty. A supposedly normal gay male having unprotected anal sex and getting AIDS? Now there's a bright thought.
Sicko. Someone needs to lock you up right now.

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#133 Apr 26, 2013
He is Coming Soon wrote:
<quoted text>Yet, you are here, searching for something more. If you had the truth, you would not be here fighting with Christians. You would not bother to give us the time of day.
That's not true at all. I'm here fighting for rational thinking and the scientific method. I see you bozos as a threat to progress, and I'll fight you anywhere and in any way I can.

The path to truth is through science, not superstition.

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#134 Apr 26, 2013
little lamb wrote:
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You got a question for God ..you go and ask him..
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Now would I ask an imaginary god a question?

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#135 Apr 26, 2013
little lamb wrote:
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I believe you have nailed it...They want us to prove God exists for them...but that is not our job...
Reading scripture we are to preach the WORD..but it is God who opens the ears to hear..encouragement in the Lord.
It also appears that the baptism of the Holy Spirit , is necessary for the power to witness to Christ...how do you go on that ??
Two problems with your post:

1. If you make a claim you need to back it up with proof.

2. If God decides who he will allow to come to him and whom he will reject, then he isn't all-loving after all.

Your God is a fiction. You use your God to justify bigotry and exclusion. What you believe says more about you than the God you have created.
little lamb

Australia

#136 Apr 26, 2013
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>“Now faith is the SUBSTANCE of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.”(Hebrews 11:1)
“… as God has dealt to each one a MEASURE OF FAITH …”(Romans 12:3)
“… because your FAITH GROWS EXCEEDINGLY …”(2 Thessalonians 1:3)
Did you notice the scripture that told us that God has dealt to each one a measure of faith?
Obviously you don't know your scriptures

2 Thessalonians 3:2

"And pray that we may be delivered from wicked and evil people, for not everyone has faith."

The scriptures you quote are about those in the Body of Christ.....

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#137 Apr 26, 2013
choice wrote:
<quoted text>My point is you can continue your life thinking you are a perfect christian, and find yourself with a lovely table next to the boiler room in Hell. While I am living a life the way we are taught, manners, respect, consideration, charity, everything but organized religion, then on my death bed call out for forgiveness and eexcept the Lord. Poof, there I am sitting next to Jesus for alll eternity looking at you suffering. Hell is full of pious, sanctimonius frauds.
Me a perfect Christian? Not at all. You are seeing what you desire to see. You desire to see people suffer in Hell? I don't! I am trying my level best to throw the lost a lifeline. Your post does not show any manners or respect. If you truly understood piety, you would see through the fake facade of the current pope's display of humility. he coming one-world apostate religion that is forming before our eyes, is full to the brim with "believers" loving their neighbor, helping the poor, etc. So, why is the Lord going to harshly judge this artificial religion of cooperation and charity? Do you truly know the Lord God of Abraham, Isaaac and Jacob? www.scribd.com/doc/31322017 ...

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#138 Apr 26, 2013
little lamb wrote:
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Obviously you don't know your scriptures
2 Thessalonians 3:2
"And pray that we may be delivered from wicked and evil people, for not everyone has faith."
The scriptures you quote are about those in the Body of Christ.....
Excellent response! As I pointed out to Nettie before, if we can all find God in our own light, why did Jesus give us the Great Commission? Why were the first words of Jesus' ministry "Repent and believe the gospel?" No need for missionaries under Friar Nettie's doctrines! Come home, Christian missionaries. You are wasting your time and our money!(Accordng to Nettie).
little lamb

Australia

#139 Apr 26, 2013
He is Coming Soon wrote:
<quoted text>Excellent response! As I pointed out to Nettie before, if we can all find God in our own light, why did Jesus give us the Great Commission? Why were the first words of Jesus' ministry "Repent and believe the gospel?" No need for missionaries under Friar Nettie's doctrines! Come home, Christian missionaries. You are wasting your time and our money!(Accordng to Nettie).
I have been thinking about this recently...Jesus told his disciples to wait in the city , for the power on high ..before they were to go out and witness.

And I suspect , that until we are clothed with power on high like the original Apostles..we lack POWER..God backed them up with manifestation of his POWER

Also in the grand commission, we are told to baptize people in the Holy Spirit...but many churches are not doing so,

“God Loves Ilks!”

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#140 Apr 26, 2013
little lamb wrote:
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Obviously you don't know your scriptures
2 Thessalonians 3:2
"And pray that we may be delivered from wicked and evil people, for not everyone has faith."
The scriptures you quote are about those in the Body of Christ.....
Catechism of the Catholic Church

PART THREE
LIFE IN CHRIST

SECTION ONE
MAN'S VOCATION LIFE IN THE SPIRIT

CHAPTER ONE
THE DIGNITY OF THE HUMAN PERSON

ARTICLE 6
MORAL CONSCIENCE

1776 "Deep within his conscience man discovers a law which he has not laid upon himself but which he must obey. Its voice, ever calling him to love and to do what is good and to avoid evil, sounds in his heart at the right moment.... For man has in his heart a law inscribed by God.... His conscience is man's most secret core and his sanctuary. There he is alone with God whose voice echoes in his depths."47

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#141 Apr 26, 2013
little lamb wrote:
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I have been thinking about this recently...Jesus told his disciples to wait in the city , for the power on high ..before they were to go out and witness.
And I suspect , that until we are clothed with power on high like the original Apostles..we lack POWER..God backed them up with manifestation of his POWER
Also in the grand commission, we are told to baptize people in the Holy Spirit...but many churches are not doing so,
Yes, witnessing without the power and conviction of the Holy Spirit is fruitless. I did not realize so many churches were not baptizing believers.
Big Al

Hibbing, MN

#142 Apr 26, 2013
Fremont Rose wrote:
<quoted text>You mean the Bible. Did you ever get the point that God made man in his image, not the other way around?
"If horses had gods, they would look like horses." - Xenophanes (Greek philosopher 4th century BCE)

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