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#346 May 3, 2013
little lamb wrote:
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I believe , the new Jerusalem is seen coming down out of heaven dressed as a bride..so i know new Jerusalem is a city...but here she is shown coming down out of heaven dressed as a bride because she has made herself ready...this is the return of Christ with all the Holy Ones with him..
On the other hand Babylon the Great in scripture is likened to a city , having a Kingdom over the Kings of the earth
so here are two cities in direct contrast...one comes down out of heaven prepared and dressed as a bride..and the other is on the earth now wielding influence over Kings [rulers]
We are told ' come out of her my people'
So god has people in this earthly city that misleads the nations by her ' spiristic practices' and the merchants of the earth have become rich from her buying their stock..
So the Vatican is a city ..isn't it..very rich one at that...
Come out of her my people...is the call..
I hear you and agree.

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#347 May 3, 2013
TRUTHS BUSTER wrote:
<quoted text>Nettie avoids the entire OT and NT, like the JW and Watch tower she promotes her own made up stuff.
Nettie can not comprehend that Jesus was a Jew and every single person in the upper room was a Jew, the first Christians were all Jews. The only way that the Catholic church could call themselves god's church was to killed all the Jewish Christians and followers of Christ, then set the Catholic church in Rome next to the seat of Pontius Pilate the Romans curator who had Christ crucified.
Amen. And all true Christians are spiritually adopted Jews. The fury of the world will again be unleashed upon the children of Israel, as foretold in Bible prophecy. We see that anger even now, directed toward Bible-believing Christians. Just heard last night that the military is threatening to take both nonjudicial and judicial action against anyone who attempts to promote their religious faith. The controlling grip of Satan is getting tighter and tighter, stronger and stronger.

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#348 May 3, 2013
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>Actually, the Vatican is a country.
Not a city that is a part of another country, but a country unto itself, about 150 acres in size and a population of around a thousand people.
Babylon is a code word for Rome used in the Bible many, many times.
The majority of the over ONE BILLION Catholics live all over earth, hon.
"Vatican City" is both a city and country.

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#349 May 3, 2013
Cisco Kid wrote:
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Yes, you have made yourself into a spiritual offender.
Jesus weeps.
He was He who said he did not come to bring peace, but a sword. Spiritual warfare is ugly and offensive, but only to the unsaved.

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#350 May 3, 2013
Cisco Kid wrote:
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Neither are the words protestant or Bible found in scripture.
Catholics chose their name freely. Protestants were given their name in derision by the Catholic Church. The wrod Bible is from the greek word 'biblios, " i.e.'books." "Biblios" appears numerous times in the New Testament. Nice try.
little lamb

Melbourne, Australia

#351 May 3, 2013
Cisco Kid wrote:
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Neither are the words protestant or Bible found in scripture.
Don't use the word protestant

And I prefer to use the word "scriptures" then Bible..

however bible just means 'holy book'.......

however the book isn't holy , per se..but the writings within it are holy writings..

the phrase Holy writings' is scriptural

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#352 May 4, 2013
little lamb wrote:
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Don't use the word protestant
And I prefer to use the word "scriptures" then Bible..
however bible just means 'holy book'.......
however the book isn't holy , per se..but the writings within it are holy writings..
the phrase Holy writings' is scriptural
I keep telling them, I am PROCLAIMING, not "protesting." :-)
Punisher

Massapequa, NY

#353 May 4, 2013
He is Coming Soon wrote:
<quoted text>Like our justice system. It's not perfect, but it's the best we have available.
And yet the added "spice" of Religion and Faith has never improved it. Funny, huh?
Punisher

Massapequa, NY

#354 May 4, 2013
He is Coming Soon wrote:
<quoted text>I trashed Protestants in another e-book: www.scribd.com/doc/22629976 ...
I am an equal opportunity spiritual offender!
How is that that Believers like You don't see that You're just like the Pharisees you condemn? You are teaching your VERSION, your way, as the ONLY way...just like the Pharisees. You teach a version of the Bible that is just like the Pharisees. You think ONLY YOU see the right interpretation, the right way to obey the laws, etc.

You're a mini-me version of the Pharisees.
Punisher

Massapequa, NY

#355 May 4, 2013
He is Coming Soon wrote:
<quoted text>Amen. And all true Christians are spiritually adopted Jews. The fury of the world will again be unleashed upon the children of Israel, as foretold in Bible prophecy. We see that anger even now, directed toward Bible-believing Christians. Just heard last night that the military is threatening to take both nonjudicial and judicial action against anyone who attempts to promote their religious faith. The controlling grip of Satan is getting tighter and tighter, stronger and stronger.
Because the US military is not a Religious tool! It was never formed as a means to promote or further Xtianity! Just like this nations courts and legislative bodes were not formed as altars of worship.

Contrary to what too many American Fundy Xtians believe, this nation is not in the business of collective worship and service to the Xtian God!

Get a F'n clue!
Punisher

Massapequa, NY

#356 May 4, 2013
bodes = bodies
Punisher

Massapequa, NY

#357 May 4, 2013
Cisco Kid wrote:
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How can you be so blind to reality?
So that pastor the Baptist group fires goes his "merry little way", AND starts his new church group.
Like the way the pentecostal group was started by a baptist preacher fired for being a heretic.
Check Azusa Street revival in Los Angeles 1910.
Or maybe like The second baptist church.....or the southern baptist church....or the corner store baptist church.....or the 'everybody-that-can-fit-into-m y-Yugo' baptist church, etc;etc; etc.
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You gotta be kidding!
"Prevent corruption"? "Efficient system"? From whose viewpoint?
Not Gods!
Your protestant aberrations have spawned over 33,000 different religious groups all defying The Church Jesus built.
Hey look at that? We agree on something...miracles can happen...
Punisher

Massapequa, NY

#358 May 4, 2013
He is Coming Soon wrote:
<quoted text>These are my own words: www.scribd.com/doc/99734260 ...
I see that and I'm not interested in your book. If I wanted to I would read it. I've written a few myself, not on these topics, but when I converse with people on those topics, I do not show them segments...
Punisher

Massapequa, NY

#359 May 4, 2013
He is Coming Soon wrote:
<quoted text>And only one of us is telling the truth in light of Holy Scripture.
Your TRUTH. No anyone else's...its a singular POV. You have elected yourself the ONLY mouthpiece for a God - worshiped by gang of similarly self-aggrandizing folks...you're merely one more guy on the soap-box, participating in an entrenched Proty tradition.
Punisher

Massapequa, NY

#360 May 4, 2013
He is Coming Soon wrote:
<quoted text>You have confused Catholicism with Christianity.
Nope. Now youre just showing your ignorance of Xtian history, along with Western history. When Constantine legalized Xtianity there was no RCC, not as we would define it.

None of the lessons of Jesus were ever part the Great Machine of Xtian-doms wars on non-Xtian humanity. And it was the myriad sects of Protestantism in the West that were waging more of those wars on non-xtians across the globe, most especially here in the America's.
Punisher

Massapequa, NY

#361 May 4, 2013
He is Coming Soon wrote:
<quoted text>The current preaching of Catholicism is the same as it has been for centuries. No pope in my lifetime has ever been honest with non-Christian people. They NEVER warn them that "there is no other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved." Instead, they stroke the wicked consciences of mankind, telling them God loves them just as they are. The popes prefer to be morale boosters, with no true concern with the eternal destiny of souls. You have hardened your heart against the truths of the Gospel: www.scribd.com/doc/31322017 ...
No hardened heart here...I have the heart of a man 3/4's my age.

However You have hardened your brain to reality. You are so in-love with your self-appointed position of Gods mouthpiece you cant see past your nose. You worship your Self, as you see your Self as the only light among all the other ones who make the same claims. You believe that because you have written something, codified your POV, its on the same level as the Bible, and that you among all the others who have done the same is the ONLY right code.

You're a Pharisee, and now you have your own personal, self-created code book. I've lost count of the number of Xtians like You I've met over the decades. Dime a dozen...no wait...factoring in inflation, etc...2.5 cents a dozen.
Punisher

Massapequa, NY

#362 May 4, 2013
little lamb wrote:
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And that is not all ..they have several mediators between God and Christ..they had a saint for nearly everything
They made mary an mediator , against scripture that states there is only one mediator between God and men
Jesus taught us to pray " our father in heaven.."
they taught people to address their prayers to mary..
next they did the opposite Jesus teaches..Jesus said ' don't say the same words over and over again..' yet they came out with the rosary..its a corrupt religious system
By the way I have no doubt there are true Christian caught up in her clutches..God says ' come out of her my people."
Dont get me started on mediators. Protestantism is full of them. Mostly in the guise of Preachers making outlandish and non-scriptural claims.

BTW, I am fully aware of the Reformation and the reasons, and I can guarantee you I know more that history, in fact have forgotten more of that history then you even know.

I have made Xtian history a "hobby" of mine over the decades - because its there that the whole thing falls apart. Its in the history of the people, the theology, the extremes gone to to enforce doctrines, etc - that most effectively dismantles the whole charade. The very fact that Protestantism as a whole fails to educate its peoples on that vast and myriad history that is most destructive to its specious foundations.

So don't ever accuse me of not knowing history, especially Xtian history. Its in my f'n blood! As its in the blood that has covered the ground all over this planet due to Proty Xtianity...!
Punisher

Massapequa, NY

#363 May 4, 2013
Nettiebelle wrote:
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Catholics do not depend on the Virgin Mary to grant us salvation. We pray to her asking for her prayers for us.
Who do you think she prays TO?
This a nuanced point that most Protys miss...mostly because nuance escapes most of them.

And American Protys are so guilty of calling on mediators they are too profoundly stupid to recognize it. Every time they call for a prayer meeting, for a moment of prayer for someone or thing, they are calling on mediators to help them petition God.

They are always saying they are praying for X, or Y, or for that group or those victims...which is exactly the same as a RC asking Mary to pray for them...as she then prays to Jesus/God on their behalf.

American Protys are so clueless to their own matching behaviors its funny in a sad way...
Punisher

Massapequa, NY

#364 May 4, 2013
little lamb wrote:
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While you are it it..don't forget the hospitals , the care for lepers, the freedom for slave movement, the push for fair wages for working men..the preachers who counseled thousands..and the free education provided for the children of the poor...so much that the west has become the place all the refugees want to come to live..
No doubt...but IMO, its in spite of Xtian-dom, not truly because of it.

I dont doubt that many good people have done good works (uh oh!, works) and they say its because of their faith, or that their faith aided them, etc - but I ask you, is it because of their faith or simply because they are that type of person? Because IMO, there clearly is that type of Human as there are many others. Across denominations, and across the spectrum of hard-faith and soft-faith, or none at all.

People flock to the West not because of Xtianity - but for the Democratic ideals, the freedom to pursue their own choices, to do better than their parents, ancestors, etc...and while Xtianity has certainly been a part of those systems...its not exactly been the brightest-light of those systems.

And its certainly not a bright-light in the USA, where marginalizing and vilifying those immigrants, casting various peoples as outsiders and unworthy of American Democratic advantages, etc - has been the norm among the great Xtian population than has been the opposite. The first and usually the loudest voices not wanting any group or individuals to partake of their American civil rights has been Fundamentalist Xtians!
Cisco Kid

Modesto, CA

#365 May 4, 2013
Punisher wrote:
<quoted text>Hey look at that? We agree on something...miracles can happen...
The Lord works in marvelous ways.
The Holy Spirit is always at work drawing you nearer to The Church.
Don't resist so much.

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