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#284 Apr 30, 2013
Good grief wrote:
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I don't think so
Look it up for yourself.

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#285 Apr 30, 2013
Good grief wrote:
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I don't think so
Me either.

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#286 Apr 30, 2013
Laci Ann 7 wrote:
<quoted text>Me either.
Defining Ethnicity
"Nation" & "People" in Hebrew and Greek
Dr. Orville Boyd Jenkins

Question:
In Genesis 12:1-3 is found the promise of God to Abraham to make him the fathr of many nations, and to bless all the nations of the world in him. What are the Hebrew words here for "peoples" and "nations?" What are the Greek words used for these phrases in the New Testament?

Answer:
Ireviewed this in the Hebrew text and Septuagint (LXX) Old Testament, with reference to several English versions.

I will give a summary review here of the basic factors in reference to the passage in Genesis 12. The words used in various English translations for "peoples" or "nations" vary, including families.

Two Hebrew words were involved, variously translated in English versions: most common are nation (v 2) and people (v 3). I was aware that the Greek New Testament commonly uses the Greek word eqnos (ethnos) for the general references to ethnic groups.

1. Gen. 12:2 Promise to Abraham. "I will make you a great nation." New Century Version

Hebrew here for nation is goi, the basic general Hebrew term for an ethnicity, lineage or nation (in the ethnic sense).

http://strategyleader.org/peopledefinitions/n...

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#287 Apr 30, 2013
Ant wrote:
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You cant lump 3-4 nutcases and judge 2 billion people over those individuals actions and I get where you are coming from that the media lumps all Muslims up and evil people.
BUT, when there is a awful event done in the name of Allah, the supposed good Muslims never speak out condemning the actions of the bad Muslims and just sit quietly by. When a crazy supposed Christian does something in the name of God, good Christians speak out and clearly say they are not a real Christian and their actions dont match that of Christ.
Until you start seeing "Good" Muslims come out and speak out against the radical Islams extremist, they will always have that reputation.
So All Christians and Muslims aren't evil, but Christians stand up and speak out against violent attack while Muslims are silent.
Agree! Well thought and logical...:)
Punisher

Bronxville, NY

#288 May 1, 2013
He is Coming Soon wrote:
<quoted text>I have been a member of 3 different independent Baptist churches over the past 33 years, in different states. They had the same beliefs and practices, with no central authority governing them. The pastor was only responsible for answering primarily to the Lord and secondarily to the members. If at any time, the members detect the pastor is not obedient to God either in his personal life or in carrying out the Great Commission, he is fired and sent on his merry little way. It is a very efficient system that prevents the corruption seen over the years within Catholicism.
Yet the system you describe is so arbitrary to be like a gathering of children who suddenly decide one of the Leader kids is on the outs.

Its a group system like any other open to politics and money, and influence where a pastor, especially the more Charismatic ones who find a nice core group of sycophants to protect him...making it no more or less better/worse than a big organizations insular system of protecting the status quo.

Whats the metric for measuring obedience? If we're all sinners all the time, how and when and who is measuring a pastors status? Is there a measuring/progress board in the church? One with people doing the investigation, and another that graphically shows (for the members) where their pastor stands, kind of like a funds drive earnings graphic? "We've collected up to M, but we need to reach Z."

And we have all seen the stories where a Pastor and his core group abuse the shyte out of their "Commission", and even when found out, many church members see no wrong.

How exactly does anyone measure the answering to God part too?

Basically the whole thing is arbitrary and wholly subjective...
Punisher

Bronxville, NY

#289 May 1, 2013
He is Coming Soon wrote:
<quoted text> www.scribd.com/doc/99734260 ... "He who has an ear, let him hear."
FYI; even if your link worked, I would not have visited. I'm having a conversation with you, not a website. Answer me in your words, or dont bother at all. If YOU cant conjure the words to support your POV, then dont bother answering at all. It shows how weak and unprepared in faith you like so many others truly are around here...

My point stands, You did not refute Nettie, or any ones else. You merely offered a differing POV. Which is all it is...
Punisher

Bronxville, NY

#290 May 1, 2013
little lamb wrote:
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Another gem..is ' now you are Christ body and members individually, but God places the members in the body...
took me a while to fathom that...but it is God not man, who places the respective ones in the Body....
Too many think they invite you to join..they can't ..false prophets scripture tells us , say ' come here or there..' but a true christian knows it is ' Christ in you , the hope of his glory.'
So its not free-will after all...

Another point made against the whole notion of Free-will.
Punisher

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#291 May 1, 2013
He is Coming Soon wrote:
<quoted text>Quite simple: www.scribd.com/doc/99734260 ... I am not attempting to overcome the RCC. I leave that to the Lord. You will see the truth one day, I hope. The RCC is leading the world into the deceptive apostate global religious views you espouse again and again.
How are this obvious and arrogant at the same time?

You're doing the same you accuse the RCC..! In fact, I could easily argue that most of the American Evangelical movement is a deceptive apostate movement leading the world into a state of hysteria all for the goal of bringing on the End of Days.

One of your problems is that YOU are not even remotely up to date on what the RCC is currently preaching 'round the world - but rely on old propaganda...
Punisher

Bronxville, NY

#292 May 1, 2013
He is Coming Soon wrote:
<quoted text>After all, the Pharisees claimed sole religious authority and knowledge. Jesus told them they had neither. Even after His death, He did not vanquish their poisonous doctrines. They kept preaching the same lies, stalking the Christians everywhere they went. But, those whom the Lord ordained, listened to and responded to the "Good News." They were not led astray by the Pharisees' plausible and convincing dogma.
And as soon they (xtians) were legalized they went on a centuries long killing spree. Modern Xtianity is wholly descended from a murderous system of Belief Control.
Punisher

Bronxville, NY

#293 May 1, 2013
Good grief wrote:
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I don't think so
So don't think. Cause you're wrong.

There was nothing in the experience or knowledge of the Bible writers that equates to the modern form of a Nation, even the term would be unknown to them. In fact, they'd be aghast at how they are formed and maintained...
little lamb

Maribyrnong, Australia

#294 May 1, 2013
Punisher wrote:
<quoted text>And as soon they (xtians) were legalized they went on a centuries long killing spree. Modern Xtianity is wholly descended from a murderous system of Belief Control.
While you are it it..don't forget the hospitals , the care for lepers, the freedom for slave movement, the push for fair wages for working men..the preachers who counseled thousands..and the free education provided for the children of the poor...so much that the west has become the place all the refugees want to come to live..
He is Coming Soon

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#295 May 1, 2013
Punisher wrote:
<quoted text>FYI; even if your link worked, I would not have visited. I'm having a conversation with you, not a website. Answer me in your words, or dont bother at all. If YOU cant conjure the words to support your POV, then dont bother answering at all. It shows how weak and unprepared in faith you like so many others truly are around here...
My point stands, You did not refute Nettie, or any ones else. You merely offered a differing POV. Which is all it is...
These are my own words: www.scribd.com/doc/99734260 ...
He is Coming Soon

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#296 May 1, 2013
Punisher wrote:
<quoted text>FYI; even if your link worked, I would not have visited. I'm having a conversation with you, not a website. Answer me in your words, or dont bother at all. If YOU cant conjure the words to support your POV, then dont bother answering at all. It shows how weak and unprepared in faith you like so many others truly are around here...
My point stands, You did not refute Nettie, or any ones else. You merely offered a differing POV. Which is all it is...
And only one of us is telling the truth in light of Holy Scripture.
He is Coming Soon

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#297 May 1, 2013
Punisher wrote:
<quoted text>And as soon they (xtians) were legalized they went on a centuries long killing spree. Modern Xtianity is wholly descended from a murderous system of Belief Control.
You have confused Catholicism with Christianity.
little lamb

Maribyrnong, Australia

#298 May 1, 2013
He is Coming Soon wrote:
<quoted text>You have confused Catholicism with Christianity.
That is very true..because he seems ignorant of the reformation, and the many who knew the authority of scriptures were greater authority then the authority of the pope [ so called]
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#299 May 1, 2013
Punisher wrote:
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How are this obvious and arrogant at the same time?
You're doing the same you accuse the RCC..! In fact, I could easily argue that most of the American Evangelical movement is a deceptive apostate movement leading the world into a state of hysteria all for the goal of bringing on the End of Days.
One of your problems is that YOU are not even remotely up to date on what the RCC is currently preaching 'round the world - but rely on old propaganda...
The current preaching of Catholicism is the same as it has been for centuries. No pope in my lifetime has ever been honest with non-Christian people. They NEVER warn them that "there is no other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved." Instead, they stroke the wicked consciences of mankind, telling them God loves them just as they are. The popes prefer to be morale boosters, with no true concern with the eternal destiny of souls. You have hardened your heart against the truths of the Gospel: www.scribd.com/doc/31322017 ...
little lamb

Maribyrnong, Australia

#300 May 1, 2013
He is Coming Soon wrote:
<quoted text>The current preaching of Catholicism is the same as it has been for centuries. No pope in my lifetime has ever been honest with non-Christian people. They NEVER warn them that "there is no other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved." Instead, they stroke the wicked consciences of mankind, telling them God loves them just as they are. The popes prefer to be morale boosters, with no true concern with the eternal destiny of souls. You have hardened your heart against the truths of the Gospel: www.scribd.com/doc/31322017 ...
And that is not all ..they have several mediators between God and Christ..they had a saint for nearly everything

They made mary an mediator , against scripture that states there is only one mediator between God and men

Jesus taught us to pray " our father in heaven.."

they taught people to address their prayers to mary..

next they did the opposite Jesus teaches..Jesus said ' don't say the same words over and over again..' yet they came out with the rosary..its a corrupt religious system

By the way I have no doubt there are true Christian caught up in her clutches..God says ' come out of her my people."

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#301 May 1, 2013
little lamb wrote:
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That is very true..because he seems ignorant of the reformation, and the many who knew the authority of scriptures were greater authority then the authority of the pope [ so called]
Then why were the books of the New Testament, that already MADE up the New Testament, acceptable during the Reformation?
Why weren't any of those books rejected during the Reformation?
You know, it was the Catholic Church who determined those books already making up the New Testament to be inspired.
Not the folks involved in the Reformation.

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#302 May 1, 2013
little lamb wrote:
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And that is not all ..they have several mediators between God and Christ..they had a saint for nearly everything
They made mary an mediator , against scripture that states there is only one mediator between God and men
Jesus taught us to pray " our father in heaven.."
they taught people to address their prayers to mary..
next they did the opposite Jesus teaches..Jesus said ' don't say the same words over and over again..' yet they came out with the rosary..its a corrupt religious system
By the way I have no doubt there are true Christian caught up in her clutches..God says ' come out of her my people."
Christ is our Mediator to God; the Catholic Church has never taught any differently.

As for repetitious prayer:
Repetitious Prayer

1 Kings 18:25-29 - example of vain repetition: call Baal for hours
Matthew 6:7 - do not babble like pagans with their many words (Our Lord does not condemn the practice of praying in public assemblies (Luke 18:10), the words here are hyperbolic. He does not condemn the practice in praying in the streets. He condemns the practice of deliberately striking a pious attitude for public notice)
Matthew 26:44 - Jesus prayed a third time, saying the same thing again.
Luke 18:13 - collector kept beating his breast and praying be merciful to me a sinner.
1 Thessalonians 5:17 - pray without ceasing
Revelation 4:8 - repeat day and night, "Holy, Holy, Holy is the Lord"

Catholics do not depend on the Virgin Mary to grant us salvation. We pray to her asking for her prayers for us.
Who do you think she prays TO?
Do Gays have tails

San Jose, CA

#303 May 1, 2013
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>Then why were the books of the New Testament, that already MADE up the New Testament, acceptable during the Reformation?
Why weren't any of those books rejected during the Reformation?
You know, it was the Catholic Church who determined those books already making up the New Testament to be inspired.
Not the folks involved in the Reformation.
YOU MIGHT ONE TO GO TO YOUR MOM'S GRAVE SITE. Check to see if you has a tail, if so then she was gay. I think she was gay. Rose says that she has a tail and that it is long since it is measured in abuse years.

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