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“Jesus is Lord”

Since: Aug 11

Greenwood, Indiana

#1 Sep 18, 2012
I am starting this thread because most of the people on my threads are lost soul's. I have ask for all true Christians to be here also, to help out with the answers to any question. But God isn't asking for the Christians to be here. He is telling them to be here! Why did God tell instead of asking, it goes like this some people says they are children of God. God knows His children by there fruit and the work they do for God. They can be on other threads and fighting with the lost souls. But not one will show there love and do the work of God with out fighting with them. So I question there Christianity, are they for real or what? Yes the lost will be hard to win over, but we can't win the lost if we are going to fight with them. Jesus said to love your Brother's/Sister's. To me I put it this way, if you say you love Jesus and not your enemies then you are a lair to the LORD. True Christians win's souls and they show love to all kinds of people, if you can do this then you walk with Satan not Jesus!!

I got 256 pages of Straight Talk from the Bible starting with A to W...The first thing we will talk about is "Abortion", yes I know we have talk about this before. But have we talk about it from the heart or do we let Satan do the talking for us?? Your thoughts please. Please one question at a time, don't put 5 or 12 question's in a comment, if you do it will not be answer by me!!

"Abortion" Your comments please??

Roland_Deschain

“Naturalism - Nature is Enough”

Since: Nov 07

UK

#2 Sep 18, 2012
ThePreacherman01 wrote:

"Abortion" Your comments please??
This is the situation in the UK mainland. IMHO it's a reasoned and balanced approach.

"Under UK law, an abortion can usually only be carried out during the first 24 weeks of pregnancy as long as certain criteria are met (see below).

The Abortion Act 1967 covers the UK mainland (England, Scotland and Wales) but not Northern Ireland. The law states that:

abortions must be carried out in a hospital or a specialist licensed clinic

two doctors must agree that an abortion would cause less damage to a woman's physical or mental health than continuing with the pregnancy

There are also a number of rarer situations when the law states an abortion may be carried out after 24 weeks. These include:

if it is necessary to save the woman's life

to prevent grave permanent injury to the physical or mental health of the pregnant woman

if there is substantial risk that if the child were born, s/he would have physical or mental abnormalities as to be seriously handicapped

Generally, an abortion should be carried out as early in the pregnancy as possible, ideally before 12 weeks."

http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/Abortion/Pages/I...

“The Topix Legend of "GS8"!”

Since: Sep 10

Manalapan, FL

#3 Sep 18, 2012
Examine God's sexism

If you would like to prove to yourself that God is imaginary, here is one easy way to do it: Look for places in the Bible where God is an absurd, unmitigated jerk instead of the "all-knowing", "all-loving", "fully-enlightened" being that he is supposed to be. The utter contradiction proves that God is imaginary.

There are many parts of the Bible that display these tendencies, for example this and this. However, if you are a woman, the place where God's absurdity becomes completely clear is when you look at God's sexism.

The dictionary defines a misogynist as "One who hates women." [ref] It defines the word "sexist" as:

1. Discrimination based on gender, especially discrimination against women.
2. Attitudes, conditions, or behaviors that promote stereotyping of social roles based on gender

Is God a sexist? Let's look at the evidence. We find this in 1 Corinthians chapter 14:

As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.

This seems like a straightforward passage. And God is the one who inspired the Bible. In Isaiah 40:8 God says that the word of the Lord will last forever, and he says the same thing again in 1 Peter 1:24-25. So here we have God, in his eternal and everlasting Word, saying that it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.

This quote from 1 Corinthians 11 is important:

But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is her husband, and the head of Christ is God. Any man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head, but any woman who prays or prophesies with her head unveiled dishonors her head--it is the same as if her head were shaven. For if a woman will not veil herself, then she should cut off her hair; but if it is disgraceful for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her wear a veil. For a man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man.(For man was not made from woman, but woman from man. Neither was man created for woman, but woman for man.) That is why a woman ought to have a veil on her head, because of the angels.

You may find it hard to believe that something that confusing is in the Bible, yet if you look it up you will find it is there.
Then there is this section from 1 Timothy chapter 2:

Also that women should adorn themselves modestly and sensibly in seemly apparel, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or costly attire but by good deeds, as befits women who profess religion. Let a woman learn in silence with all submissiveness. I permit no woman to teach or to have authority over men; she is to keep silent.

It is hard to miss God's meaning when he says something as direct as, "I permit no woman to teach or to have authority over men; she is to keep silent."
ThePreacherman01 wrote:
"Abortion" Your comments please??

“The Topix Legend of "GS8"!”

Since: Sep 10

Manalapan, FL

#4 Sep 18, 2012
Examine God's sexism

If you think about it, you will realize that God started this type of sexism at the very beginning of the Bible. In Genesis chapter 17 God says:

This is my covenant, which you shall keep, between me and you and your descendants after you: Every male among you shall be circumcised. You shall be circumcised in the flesh of your foreskins, and it shall be a sign of the covenant between me and you.

God makes no mention of forming any sort of covenant with women.

There are many other examples that we can find in the Bible:

• In Matthew 25:1 Jesus says: "At that time the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom."
• In John 20:17 Jesus says to Mary: "Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father," as though the touch of a woman is somehow improper, but a few verses later, is happy to have Thomas touch him.
• In Genesis chapter 3, God punishes Eve, and all women for thousands of years, with greatly increased pain during childbirth. No such pain is inflicted on Adam.
• In Ephesians 5:22-24 we find this: "Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything."
• In 1 Peter 3:7 we find: "Husbands, in the same way be considerate as you live with your wives, and treat them with respect as the weaker partner and as heirs with you of the gracious gift of life, so that nothing will hinder your prayers."
• In 1 John 2:13, John says, "I write to you, fathers, because you have known him who is from the beginning. I write to you, young men, because you have overcome the evil one. I write to you, dear children, because you have known the Father." No mention is made of women.
• And so on. There are many, many examples like these throughout the old and new testaments.

There are other, broader examples of misogyny that are readily apparent in the Bible as well:

• Are any of Jesus' disciples women? No.
• Are any of the elders in the book of Revelation women? No.
• Are any of the books of the Bible written by women? No.
• Etc...

God, it would seem, wants nothing to do with women.

Keep in mind that the Bible's misogyny has affected society for centuries. The United States constitution, for example, was originally drafted to specifically deny rights to women. Women could not even vote in the United States until 1920, and only then after decades of battle in the women's suffrage movement.

“The Topix Legend of "GS8"!”

Since: Sep 10

Manalapan, FL

#5 Sep 18, 2012
Examine God's sexism

If you think about it, you will realize that there is something quite odd about this situation. In spite of the fact that the Bible is supposed to be God's eternal Word, modern human beings totally reject God's sexism. Modern human beings completely ignore God:

• We make women the CEOs of major corporations.
• We elect women to high government offices.
• We appoint women as presidents of universities.
• We fill our schools with female teachers.
• We allow women to speak freely in church.

The contradiction should be as obvious as a lighthouse here. There is no ambiguity. We do all of this in direct defiance of God's Law in the Bible because we know God and his "eternal word" are completely wrong. We know that God is imaginary.

If God is going to take the time to write and publish "the Word of God," why does the book contain so many problems?

• Why isn't each page of the Bible astonishing us with its brilliance and insight, and filling us with wonder?
• Why, instead, does the Bible contain so much nonsense or, in this case, bigotry?
• Why are Christians constantly having to justify, rationalize, excuse and explain the Bible? In this case, we find modern Christians trying to defend a God who obviously hates women on many different levels.

To any unbiased observer, the reason for sexism in the Bible is very easy to understand: The Bible was not written by a "all-knowing", "all-loving", "fully-enlightened" "god". It was written by primitive men who were flagrant sexists. Just look at how men in primitive countries like Afghanistan treat women today. Those are the kind of men who wrote the Bible.

And we all know it -- Christians and non-Christians alike. The reason why modern societies totally reject sexism is because we all know that the Bible's sexism is completely contradictory and completely wrong. It is exactly the same situation we see when Christians face slavery in the Bible. Christians and non-Christians alike reject the Bible's teachings in these areas because the Bible is obviously wrong. The part that is profoundly strange is that, while completely rejecting these parts of the Bible, Christians will claim that other parts of the Bible are God's word. They are blind to the obvious contradiction because of their utter delusion.

Once you break the delusion, it is completely obvious: God is imaginary.

“God Loves Ilks!”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#6 Sep 18, 2012
ThePreacherman01 wrote:
I am starting this thread because most of the people on my threads are lost soul's. I have ask for all true Christians to be here also, to help out with the answers to any question. But God isn't asking for the Christians to be here. He is telling them to be here! Why did God tell instead of asking, it goes like this some people says they are children of God. God knows His children by there fruit and the work they do for God. They can be on other threads and fighting with the lost souls. But not one will show there love and do the work of God with out fighting with them. So I question there Christianity, are they for real or what? Yes the lost will be hard to win over, but we can't win the lost if we are going to fight with them. Jesus said to love your Brother's/Sister's. To me I put it this way, if you say you love Jesus and not your enemies then you are a lair to the LORD. True Christians win's souls and they show love to all kinds of people, if you can do this then you walk with Satan not Jesus!!
I got 256 pages of Straight Talk from the Bible starting with A to W...The first thing we will talk about is "Abortion", yes I know we have talk about this before. But have we talk about it from the heart or do we let Satan do the talking for us?? Your thoughts please. Please one question at a time, don't put 5 or 12 question's in a comment, if you do it will not be answer by me!!
"Abortion" Your comments please??
Abortion has been legal in the U.S. since 1975.
This is a choice between the woman and God, not between you and your beliefs.
BTW: all are children of God; He gave each living person a soul/spirit, which is our connection to Him; we are all a part of God; God knows who accepts Him, you don't.

Next!

“Jesus is Lord”

Since: Aug 11

Greenwood, Indiana

#7 Sep 18, 2012
Roland_Deschain wrote:
<quoted text>
This is the situation in the UK mainland. IMHO it's a reasoned and balanced approach.
"Under UK law, an abortion can usually only be carried out during the first 24 weeks of pregnancy as long as certain criteria are met (see below).
The Abortion Act 1967 covers the UK mainland (England, Scotland and Wales) but not Northern Ireland. The law states that:
abortions must be carried out in a hospital or a specialist licensed clinic
two doctors must agree that an abortion would cause less damage to a woman's physical or mental health than continuing with the pregnancy
There are also a number of rarer situations when the law states an abortion may be carried out after 24 weeks. These include:
if it is necessary to save the woman's life
to prevent grave permanent injury to the physical or mental health of the pregnant woman
if there is substantial risk that if the child were born, s/he would have physical or mental abnormalities as to be seriously handicapped
Generally, an abortion should be carried out as early in the pregnancy as possible, ideally before 12 weeks."
http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/Abortion/Pages/I...
Exodus 20:13; Deuteronomy 5:17, There is no law in this world higher then Gods Law FACT!!

“Jesus is Lord”

Since: Aug 11

Greenwood, Indiana

#8 Sep 18, 2012
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>Abortion has been legal in the U.S. since 1975.
This is a choice between the woman and God, not between you and your beliefs.
BTW: all are children of God; He gave each living person a soul/spirit, which is our connection to Him; we are all a part of God; God knows who accepts Him, you don't.
Next!
Isaiah 49:15...Show me any place in the Bible were it says its OK to kill a child before it is born! God said thou shalt not kill, Exodus 20:13;Deut 5:17....Mankind's laws doesn't over ride Gods Laws FACT!!

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#9 Sep 18, 2012
ThePreacherman01 wrote:
<quoted text>Isaiah 49:15...Show me any place in the Bible were it says its OK to kill a child before it is born! God said thou shalt not kill, Exodus 20:13;Deut 5:17....Mankind's laws doesn't over ride Gods Laws FACT!!
Your scriptures mention nothing about abortion.

Roland_Deschain

“Naturalism - Nature is Enough”

Since: Nov 07

UK

#10 Sep 18, 2012
ThePreacherman01 wrote:
<quoted text>Exodus 20:13; Deuteronomy 5:17, There is no law in this world higher then Gods Law FACT!!
I thought this was going to be a sensible discussion. My mistake.

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#11 Sep 18, 2012
Roland_Deschain wrote:
<quoted text>
I thought this was going to be a sensible discussion. My mistake.
No sane person has ever had a sensible discussion with preacherman. FACT!

:)

Since: Oct 07

UK

#12 Sep 18, 2012
Hi Preacher man ...only one question .What did God say to you exactly with nothing added too or taken away from regarding this ?
" I have ask for all true Christians to be here also, to help out with the answers to any question. But God isn't asking for the Christians to be here. He is telling them to be here"

If this is true and God is telling all true Christian to be here then this is the biggest thing since the beginning of creation .The moment that all creatiion has been waiting for, the day when the children of God are revealed .

If this is not what you meant which I think may be the case ,I mean who would want to discuss abortion if the moment all creation has groaned and waited for was about to happen right here in topix on this thread ..wow , anyways as I said if this is not what you meant can you please tell us exactly word for word what God has said regarding telling all true Christians coming to this thread .God bless you Preacherman and may you boldly proclaim his word on this matter in spirit and in truth .

“Jesus is Lord”

Since: Aug 11

Greenwood, Indiana

#13 Sep 18, 2012
Roland_Deschain wrote:
<quoted text>
I thought this was going to be a sensible discussion. My mistake.
You made no mistake go right on and talk!!
Punisher

New York, NY

#14 Sep 18, 2012
ThePreacherman01 wrote:
<quoted text>Exodus 20:13; Deuteronomy 5:17, There is no law in this world higher then Gods Law FACT!!
Only this God gets to enforce them. You don't. He never made you Sheriff, nor Judge, or Jury. NO where did he say, disobey the civil laws based on your loosey-goosey interpretations of a book he never commissioned...

Plus Jesus said, Give unto Caesar what is his...and that involves the legal system.
Punisher

New York, NY

#15 Sep 18, 2012
Roland_Deschain wrote:
<quoted text>
I thought this was going to be a sensible discussion. My mistake.
Silly Rabbit...discuss means time to pontificate to P-man.
Punisher

New York, NY

#16 Sep 18, 2012
ThePreacherman01 wrote:
<quoted text>Isaiah 49:15...Show me any place in the Bible were it says its OK to kill a child before it is born! God said thou shalt not kill, Exodus 20:13;Deut 5:17....Mankind's laws doesn't over ride Gods Laws FACT!!
Oh boy lets play the usual xtian game.

Show me where it says not to..! If it aint in the Bible, its irrelevant.

Plus when the manuscripts for the Bible were being started up, the soul was imparted at BIRTH, not conception.

“Jesus is Lord”

Since: Aug 11

Greenwood, Indiana

#17 Sep 18, 2012
loveismygoal wrote:
Hi Preacher man ...only one question .What did God say to you exactly with nothing added too or taken away from regarding this ?
" I have ask for all true Christians to be here also, to help out with the answers to any question. But God isn't asking for the Christians to be here. He is telling them to be here"
If this is true and God is telling all true Christian to be here then this is the biggest thing since the beginning of creation .The moment that all creation has been waiting for, the day when the children of God are revealed .
If this is not what you meant which I think may be the case ,I mean who would want to discuss abortion if the moment all creation has groaned and waited for was about to happen right here in topix on this thread ..wow , anyways as I said if this is not what you meant can you please tell us exactly word for word what God has said regarding telling all true Christians coming to this thread .God bless you Preacherman and may you boldly proclaim his word on this matter in spirit and in truth .
My Father in Heaven told me just what I said in my comments and He back it up with Mark 16:15,16 and Matthew 28:19,20 1 Peter 3:15!!!

“Jesus is Lord”

Since: Aug 11

Greenwood, Indiana

#18 Sep 18, 2012
Punisher wrote:
<quoted text>Only this God gets to enforce them. You don't. He never made you Sheriff, nor Judge, or Jury. NO where did he say, disobey the civil laws based on your loosey-goosey interpretations of a book he never commissioned...
Plus Jesus said, Give unto Caesar what is his...and that involves the legal system.
When you grow up in the LORD come back and then we can talk.

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#19 Sep 18, 2012
tickedoffchic wrote:
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Your scriptures mention nothing about abortion.
Gee, I wonder why? Are you really that stupid? There is proof you know NOTHING about the bible! Im not going to argue the law on this, I will however say that ANY woman that does it out of convenience is wrong and is a murderer at any stage of development! There are MANY other ways to handle the situation. In the case of Rape, Incest etc... different story IMO, but oops I get knocked up by my boyfriend because Im irresponsible so Im going to stop by the abortion clinic and kill my baby is in NO WAY a legitimate cause to have an abortion! You guys particularly Cookie want a society where you can be irresponsible as a person and have everyone else suffer and pay the consequences! Im lazy and wont work, the government should take care of me, Im a tramp Ho and got knocked up, the government should my right and pay for the death of my baby! Abortion is MURDER, PERIOD. You guys make me sick to think about it. I dont see how ANYONE that has a child and witnessed the miracle of birth could think otherwise! We have become a numb society, one that the value of life is meaningless!

“Jesus is Lord”

Since: Aug 11

Greenwood, Indiana

#20 Sep 18, 2012
The Lawmakers of this country will face God for making laws to kill unborn children! These people will burn for ever for there mistake's bank on it. No one on this earth got the right to take a life of a unborn child "FACT". And there is no place in the Bible that give this country or any other country the right to do so FACT!!

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