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Seth

San Jose, CA

#286 Feb 26, 2011
Big Al wrote:
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ThatÂ’s exactly the point; we are talking about things for which there is no proof. You have to use your ability to reason. Reasoning is a lot harder than just believing something because it makes you feel better.
There are many people that use reason and come to opposite conclusions than you do. I'm reasoning that God has indeed appeared in history based on the fact that the Bible is a reliable record of it. The kind of reasoning your doing is not that difficult. All you have to do is assert your position and leave it at that.
What kind of evidence would you need to show that God appeared in history centuries ago?
Seth

San Jose, CA

#287 Feb 26, 2011
15th Dalai Lama wrote:
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Got it. Biblical directions are figurative and flying dead Jews are real.
I hope all you read are just science stuff. Understanding figurative language may be to difficult for you.
Seth

San Jose, CA

#288 Feb 26, 2011
HighlyEvolved wrote:
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The fact that the biblical God and the biblical Heaven are modeled after earlier ancient concepts.
You worship a copycat, and a demon at that.
Your ignorance is showing again.

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Since: Dec 08

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#289 Feb 26, 2011
Seth wrote:
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Its a figure of speech. Much like the sun "rises" in the east.
The sun always "rises" in the East, no matter where you are on the planet. "Up" is different directions depending where you are on the planet. East is always east on the surface of the planet. Up will be Down in reference to another location on the surface. Not much alike at all.

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Since: Dec 08

nowhere near a pound of $100's

#290 Feb 26, 2011
Seth wrote:
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I hope all you read are just science stuff. Understanding figurative language may be to difficult for you.
"figurative language" meaning language you can interpret to mean anything you want it to..... gotcha!! uh-huhh!!

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Albuquerque

#291 Feb 26, 2011
Seth wrote:
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I hope all you read are just science stuff. Understanding figurative language may be to difficult for you.
Hey, I don't believe in Biblical inerrancy. That's your bag.

I'm not being critical but it is best, when the topic is language of any sort, to at least make an effort to match number, gender and case and also to spell words correctly.
Seth

San Jose, CA

#292 Feb 26, 2011
15th Dalai Lama wrote:
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Hey, I don't believe in Biblical inerrancy. That's your bag.
I'm not being critical but it is best, when the topic is language of any sort, to at least make an effort to match number, gender and case and also to spell words correctly.
I can spel just as gooder as you can.

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Albuquerque

#293 Feb 26, 2011
Seth wrote:
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I can spel just as gooder as you can.
I was only trying to help. Just be extra careful to check your work if the intent is to criticize another's language skills.

“Jesus forgives..... ”

Since: May 08

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#294 Feb 26, 2011
levi wrote:
If there is no after life, in their belief.
Don't worry, you'll not continue to live. It's not painful to die or there is no punishment for ya!!!
levi

Mcallen, TX

#295 Feb 26, 2011
HighlyEvolved wrote:
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So a person's salvation is not dependent on the person whose salvation is in question, but rather the mythical being who allegedly will grant salvation to the person whose salvation is dependent on whether said being is of the opinion that said person is indeed worthy of salvation is the ultimate judge.
Meanwhile, Philippians 1:9-10 says the OPPOSITE of what you claimed:
"And this is my prayer: that your love may abound more and more in knowledge and depth of insight, so that YOU MAY BE ABLE TO DISCERN WHAT IS BEST and may be pure and blameless for the day of Christ." [My emphasis).
Clearly, Philippians 1-9-10 says that salvation is dependent on the person's ability to discern what is right.
That said, none of it matters since your God doesn't exist, and your savior failed to return at the time he promised.
Game over, Mr. Spassky.
You have stated in another forum that there is no such thing as a soul or even spirits. What in your opinion are all these reports of ghosts and paranormal activity that so many credible people describe? Some stories and even video and photographic evidence of so called entities. These cannot be 100 percent attributed to delusions, etc.

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Since: Dec 08

nowhere near a pound of $100's

#296 Feb 26, 2011
levi wrote:
<quoted text>You have stated in another forum that there is no such thing as a soul or even spirits. What in your opinion are all these reports of ghosts and paranormal activity that so many credible people describe? Some stories and even video and photographic evidence of so called entities.
True!
levi wrote:
These cannot be 100 percent attributed to delusions, etc.
False!

Next?
levi

Mcallen, TX

#297 Feb 26, 2011
Ooogah Boogah wrote:
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True!
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False!
Next?
Unga Bunga! I was not asking you,.....but thanks for trying, Now go over to your banana leaf hut and bring back some pineapple.

Since: Feb 10

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#298 Feb 27, 2011
Seth wrote:
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Its a figure of speech. Much like the sun "rises" in the east.
The Bible authors believed that the sun moved about the Earth, that's why they claim it "rose" and "set."

That's also why they claim that the sun "stood till in the sky for about a day."

Meanwhile, their neighbors in Egypt had already worked out the truth: that the Earth orbits the sun, and that it takes 365.25 days to make one complete trip.

Since a bunch of ignoramuses wrote the Bible, it's unreliable from a scientific standpoint.

And so, if you want to discuss science, you really ought to put your Bible aside for the time being.

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#299 Feb 27, 2011
Seth wrote:
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There are many people that use reason and come to opposite conclusions than you do. I'm reasoning that God has indeed appeared in history based on the fact that the Bible is a reliable record of it. The kind of reasoning your doing is not that difficult. All you have to do is assert your position and leave it at that.
What kind of evidence would you need to show that God appeared in history centuries ago?
Your idea that the Bible is a reliable record of history is negated by the fact that we now for certain that the Exodus never actually happened.

So, you can cling to your delusions or you can accept the facts.

A rational person would recognize the facts and no longer claim that the Bible is a historical record.

WWSD?

Since: Feb 10

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#300 Feb 27, 2011
Seth wrote:
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Your ignorance is showing again.
That's your measured rebuttal? LOL.

Aren't you the one who said that insults are a sign of a failed argument?

Seth = epic fail.

Since: Feb 10

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#301 Feb 27, 2011
levi wrote:
<quoted text>You have stated in another forum that there is no such thing as a soul or even spirits. What in your opinion are all these reports of ghosts and paranormal activity that so many credible people describe? Some stories and even video and photographic evidence of so called entities. These cannot be 100 percent attributed to delusions, etc.
Since it is a scientific fact that the "soul" is a manifestation of brain activity, all we need to know is that when the brain dies the "soul" dies too.

The "soul" is just as real as "love" - in other words, it doesn't exist outside of the human brain. "Love" is very real to people who are "in love" or who experience "deep love" for others, but the bottom line is that "love" and "soul" aren't real things.

As for the video and photographic "evidence", of course it's all 100% baseless, just as the photographic evidence for the Loch Ness Monster is baseless.

Using another example, all rational adults know that Santa Claus is an invention, yet many children are convince that he exists, and some have even claimed to have seen him, spoken with him, etc.

If you deeply believe that something exists, you will find "evidence" for its existence everywhere. That doesn't make it so.

If you are sincerely interested in why the photo and video "evidence" for spirits is false, try these links:

http://www.csicop.org/search...

http://www.skeptic.com/searchresults.html...

http://www.skeptic.com/reading_room/the-great...

http://www.ottawaskeptics.org/topics/ghosts/7...

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Since: Dec 08

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#302 Feb 27, 2011
levi wrote:
<quoted text>Unga Bunga! I was not asking you,.....but thanks for trying, Now go over to your banana leaf hut and bring back some pineapple.
Sure! I'll do it! But first you have to really really BELIEVE that I'll do it! If I haven't done it yet, it is because your faith has failed you.
Seth

San Jose, CA

#303 Feb 27, 2011
HighlyEvolved wrote:
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Your idea that the Bible is a reliable record of history is negated by the fact that we now for certain that the Exodus never actually happened.
So, you can cling to your delusions or you can accept the facts.
A rational person would recognize the facts and no longer claim that the Bible is a historical record.
WWSD?
Just because we have not found evidence of the exodus does not mean it did not happen. Secondly, there have been many things in the Bible that have been confirmed. The Bible has been shown to be very reliable via archeology.
levi

Mcallen, TX

#304 Feb 27, 2011
Ooogah Boogah wrote:
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Sure! I'll do it! But first you have to really really BELIEVE that I'll do it! If I haven't done it yet, it is because your faith has failed you.
But Unga, you are not worshiped by millions. I know you get a thrill when your little pet iguana, seems to be displaying loads and loads of praise towards you, but trust me, he just wants more banana leaves...
Seth

San Jose, CA

#305 Feb 27, 2011
HighlyEvolved wrote:
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The Bible authors believed that the sun moved about the Earth, that's why they claim it "rose" and "set."
That's also why they claim that the sun "stood till in the sky for about a day."
Meanwhile, their neighbors in Egypt had already worked out the truth: that the Earth orbits the sun, and that it takes 365.25 days to make one complete trip.
Since a bunch of ignoramuses wrote the Bible, it's unreliable from a scientific standpoint.
And so, if you want to discuss science, you really ought to put your Bible aside for the time being.
Your confusion and ignorance knows no bounds. The Bible describes the sun rising and setting from the perspective of the common man. Even today we still speak of the sun rising and setting and no one considers that to be wrong. The Egyptians worked out the scientific equation. That is another way of looking at it. Both views are correct.
How is it that if "a bunch of ignoramuses wrote the Bible" that the Bible is the most influential book in history? How could this be? No book comes even close to influencing the mankind for centuries than the Bible.
What you don't find is that atheism has not influenced mankind for the good. Its inept and powerless to do so.

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