Christian terrorism

[noyb5349]

In the name of Allah. I bear witness that there is no God but Allah, and I bear witness that Muhammad is His Servant and His Messenger.

Peace be unto you.

Dear reader,

I was just curious about what Christians would say about the information contained in these links; I'm not trying to start any trouble; I'm just seriously curious to hear what Christians would say about the info in these links:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terror...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terror...

[noyb5349]

noyb5349 wrote:

In the name of Allah. I bear witness that there is no God but Allah, and I bear witness that Muhammad is His Servant and His Messenger.

Peace be unto you.

Dear reader,

I was just curious about what Christians would say about the information contained in these links; I'm not trying to start any trouble; I'm just seriously curious to hear what Christians would say about the info in these links:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terror...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terror...

Mods, will this thread be deleted because of the links?

[par five]

noyb5349 wrote:

In the name of Allah. I bear witness that there is no God but Allah, and I bear witness that Muhammad is His Servant and His Messenger.
Peace be unto you.
Dear reader,
I was just curious about what Christians would say about the information contained in these links; I'm not trying to start any trouble; I'm just seriously curious to hear what Christians would say about the info in these links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terror...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terror...

While it is true that some Christians have been involved in what can be called acts of terror, I think that you being a Muslim are on very shaky ground with your criticism. Coming from Northern Ireland I know all about the kind of murderous acts that were at times carried out there, simply because of religious bigotry. The recent conflict there lasted just over 30 years and claimed some 3500 lives(approx)but most of those deaths had nothing to do with Christianity. A belief in Christianity was not what caused the vast majority of those deaths. You seem to be forgetting that on 9/11 your co-religionists murdered in one day, almost as many who died in the Northern Ireland conflict over those thirty or so years. Islam has nothing to learn when it comes to terrorism, and no I'm not a Christian, I am an atheist!

[GodSmacked]

This is an excellent thread.

[Hell Sucks]

For heathens.

[GodSmacked]

The thread will be very enlightening for all reading on both sides of the augment and of course those that half follow the faith will see it differently.

[noyb5349]

par five wrote:

While it is true that some Christians have been involved in what can be called acts of terror, I think that you being a Muslim are on very shaky ground with your criticism...

I didn't make any criticism, Sir. Maybe you have a guilty conscience or something. You are hearing things that were not said.

par five wrote:

...Coming from Northern Ireland I know all about the kind of murderous acts that were at times carried out there, simply because of religious bigotry. The recent conflict there lasted just over 30 years and claimed some 3500 lives(approx)but most of those deaths had nothing to do with Christianity. A belief in Christianity was not what caused the vast majority of those deaths. You seem to be forgetting that on 9/11 your co-religionists murdered in one day, almost as many who died in the Northern Ireland conflict over those thirty or so years. Islam has nothing to learn when it comes to terrorism, and no I'm not a Christian, I am an atheist!

LOL. Well I was asking Christians because I wanted to hear thoughts from Christians, but the fact about 9/11 is that the popularly believed version (19 Muslim hi-jackers sent by Al-Qaida) was never proven in a court of law. If you want to point to some Zaccarias Moussoui confession, there is such a thing as false confessions & coerced confessions. Scientists (or archeologists & engineers) are looking at the evidence and concluding that the popular version could not have been possible: http://www.ae911truth.org . They are speculating that it was a FASLE-FLAG operation. If you don't know what a false flag operation is, here is a link to it's definition: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag . 9/11 could have been a false-flag operation.

Peace.
Yahyaa

[Thinking]

In islam, what is the penalty for apostasy?

noyb5349 wrote:

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I didn't make any criticism, Sir. Maybe you have a guilty conscience or something. You are hearing things that were not said.
<quoted text>
LOL. Well I was asking Christians because I wanted to hear thoughts from Christians, but the fact about 9/11 is that the popularly believed version (19 Muslim hi-jackers sent by Al-Qaida) was never proven in a court of law. If you want to point to some Zaccarias Moussoui confession, there is such a thing as false confessions & coerced confessions. Scientists (or archeologists & engineers) are looking at the evidence and concluding that the popular version could not have been possible: http://www.ae911truth.org . They are speculating that it was a FASLE-FLAG operation. If you don't know what a false flag operation is, here is a link to it's definition: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag . 9/11 could have been a false-flag operation.
Peace.
Yahyaa

[noyb5349]

Thinking wrote:

In islam, what is the penalty for apostasy?

There is no penalty for leaving Islam. I've done it and returned to Islam myself. There is currently a campaign by people who are willing to flat out lie against Islam in order to make Islam look bad; their campaign is to misrepresent Islam and make it appear unappealing to non-Muslims. They spread lies like the one you asked about. That is just to warn you.

[Thinking]

Wrong.

The penalty of leaving islam is death, and it is being enforced today.

Par Five, check this out: www.youtube.com/watch...

noyb5349 wrote:

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There is no penalty for leaving Islam. I've done it and returned to Islam myself. There is currently a campaign by people who are willing to flat out lie against Islam in order to make Islam look bad; their campaign is to misrepresent Islam and make it appear unappealing to non-Muslims. They spread lies like the one you asked about. That is just to warn you.

[Sola Scriptura]

par five wrote:

<quoted text>
While it is true that some Christians have been involved in what can be called acts of terror, I think that you being a Muslim are on very shaky ground with your criticism. Coming from Northern Ireland I know all about the kind of murderous acts that were at times carried out there, simply because of religious bigotry. The recent conflict there lasted just over 30 years and claimed some 3500 lives(approx)but most of those deaths had nothing to do with Christianity. A belief in Christianity was not what caused the vast majority of those deaths. You seem to be forgetting that on 9/11 your co-religionists murdered in one day, almost as many who died in the Northern Ireland conflict over those thirty or so years. Islam has nothing to learn when it comes to terrorism, and no I'm not a Christian, I am an atheist!

And this is the most intelligent thing you have ever posted.

[noyb5349]

Thinking wrote:

Wrong.
The penalty of leaving islam is death, and it is being enforced today.
Par Five, check this out: www.youtube.com/watch...

LOL. And Louis Farrakhan said that Hitler was a great man and that Judaism is a gutter religion.

The Western media is not to be trusted.

[Thinking]

I'm English. Louis Farrakhan isn't even a talking point over here.

noyb5349 wrote:

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LOL. And Louis Farrakhan said that Hitler was a great man and that Judaism is a gutter religion.
The Western media is not to be trusted.

[noyb5349]

Thinking wrote:

I'm English. Louis Farrakhan isn't even a talking point over here.

Maybe not for you but I'm sure that Black Brits know him. He has a following, or more accurately, the Nation of Islam has a Mosque in the UK. They are followers of Elijah Muhammad, whom Louis Farrakhan represents.

The West tells lies about whomever they don't like. If you want to look up some Louis Farrakhan speeches on Youtube, one listen to him will let you know that he is not the man that the Western media makes him out to be. He was banned from the UK and that ban might have been lifted but I'm not sure.

You can apostatize from Islam whenever you want to.

[Thinking]

Bollocks.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam#Punis...

noyb5349 wrote:

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Maybe not for you but I'm sure that Black Brits know him. He has a following, or more accurately, the Nation of Islam has a Mosque in the UK. They are followers of Elijah Muhammad, whom Louis Farrakhan represents.
The West tells lies about whomever they don't like. If you want to look up some Louis Farrakhan speeches on Youtube, one listen to him will let you know that he is not the man that the Western media makes him out to be. He was banned from the UK and that ban might have been lifted but I'm not sure.
You can apostatize from Islam whenever you want to.

[noyb5349]

Thinking wrote:

Bollocks.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam#Punis...

And here is some incomplete reporting from the same site:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Farrakhan#...

They make it sound like he was still criticizing Judaism, when his criticism was about their evil practices that are contrary to God's Word. He meant "religion" as the way that they are practicing, not as their religion of Judaism.

You cannot accept on face value everything that you read/hear from every source.

[mztza]

noyb5349 wrote:

In the name of Allah. I bear witness that there is no God but Allah, and I bear witness that Muhammad is His Servant and His Messenger.
Peace be unto you.
Dear reader,
I was just curious about what Christians would say about the information contained in these links; I'm not trying to start any trouble; I'm just seriously curious to hear what Christians would say about the info in these links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terror...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terror...

excuse me, who were the ones involved in the MURDERING of the innocent people in 911
last time i heard it wasn't CHRISTIANS
i'm not trying too make trouble, just curious

[noyb5349]

mztza wrote:

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excuse me, who were the ones involved in the MURDERING of the innocent people in 911
last time i heard it wasn't CHRISTIANS
i'm not trying too make trouble, just curious

I discussed 9/11 in post #7.

You are a sick and sickening person...please say nothing else to me if you can. I find you disgusting.

[mztza]

noyb5349 wrote:

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I discussed 9/11 in post #7.
You are a sick and sickening person...please say nothing else to me if you can. I find you disgusting.

and i see, you lost your faith
now 1hr later you've got it back
i told you once before, your credibility is worthless
you played everybody before, so stop pretending

[mztza]

noyb5349 wrote:

<quoted text>
I didn't make any criticism, Sir. Maybe you have a guilty conscience or something. You are hearing things that were not said.
<quoted text>
LOL. Well I was asking Christians because I wanted to hear thoughts from Christians, but the fact about 9/11 is that the popularly believed version (19 Muslim hi-jackers sent by Al-Qaida) was never proven in a court of law. If you want to point to some Zaccarias Moussoui confession, there is such a thing as false confessions & coerced confessions. Scientists (or archeologists & engineers) are looking at the evidence and concluding that the popular version could not have been possible: http://www.ae911truth.org . They are speculating that it was a FASLE-FLAG operation. If you don't know what a false flag operation is, here is a link to it's definition: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag . 9/11 could have been a false-flag operation.
Peace.
Yahyaa

false flag,
you are such a liar,
don't like the truth,
you played us before, never again
you are sooo phoney
remember, i told you once before
your credibility is worth nothing