Is "true religion"

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#1 Jan 16, 2013
incompatible with war?

What IS "true religion"?

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#2 Jan 16, 2013
Cookie_Parker wrote:
incompatible with war?
What IS "true religion"?
James 1.

26 If anyone among you[b] thinks he is religious, and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this one’s religion is useless. 27 Pure and undefiled religion before God and the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their trouble, and to keep oneself unspotted from the world.

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#3 Jan 16, 2013
Cookie_Parker wrote:
incompatible with war?
What IS "true religion"?
What is religion? All religion is useless.

The only TRUE thing that is absolute is that Jesus Christ is the ONLY way into Heaven.......

John 14:6- Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
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Without His perfect BLOOD sacrifice, a person will die in their own sins.

John 8:24- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am He, ye shall die in your sins.
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What happens if we reject Jesus?

Revelation 21:8- But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Revelation 20:15
And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
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What must I do to be saved?

John 3:3- Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Romans 10:13-For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Romans 10:9-10
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

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Acts 3:19- Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord.

Isaiah 55:6-7
6 Seek ye the Lord while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near:

7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the Lord, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.

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#4 Jan 16, 2013
angelinaUK wrote:
<quoted text>James 1.
26 If anyone among you[b] thinks he is religious, and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this one’s religion is useless. 27 Pure and undefiled religion before God and the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their trouble, and to keep oneself unspotted from the world.
This is interesting. Knocks out a lot of religious persons in the world.

Do you think this means true religion is compatible with war?

Thanks, angelinaUK

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#5 Jan 16, 2013
Cookie_Parker wrote:
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This is interesting. Knocks out a lot of religious persons in the world.
Do you think this means true religion is compatible with war?
Thanks, angelinaUK
My personal view at this moment in time is that war for wars sake is not compatible with Christianity. However, if an aggressor declares war then defence is OK.

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#6 Jan 16, 2013
angelinaUK wrote:
<quoted text>My personal view at this moment in time is that war for wars sake is not compatible with Christianity. However, if an aggressor declares war then defence is OK.
And "turn the other cheek"? And love they neighbor as thyself? You could kill someone? Regardless of their motives?
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#7 Jan 16, 2013
The golden rule: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you! makes perfect sense to me.

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#8 Jan 16, 2013
Darius wrote:
The golden rule: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you! makes perfect sense to me.
I kinda like that for a "true religion" as well. Would sure knock out war.

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#9 Jan 16, 2013
Verse 8 below states there is "a time of war, and a time of peace".
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Ecclesiastes 3:1-8
1 To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:

2 A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;

3 A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;

4 A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;

5 A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;

6 A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;

7 A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;

8 A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.
Darius

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#10 Jan 16, 2013
Romans Road wrote:
Verse 8 below states there is "a time of war, and a time of peace".
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Ecclesiastes 3:1-8
1 To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
2 A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
3 A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
4 A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
5 A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
6 A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;
7 A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
8 A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.
Uh huh the time for war is when you as the aggressor needs something from your neighbor and you either can't or won't honestly pay for it. I strongly suspect the latter in those cases.

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#11 Jan 16, 2013
Cookie_Parker wrote:
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And "turn the other cheek"? And love they neighbor as thyself? You could kill someone? Regardless of their motives?
I don't believe the turn the other cheek passage applied to national situations.

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#12 Jan 17, 2013
angelinaUK wrote:
<quoted text>I don't believe the turn the other cheek passage applied to national situations.
You believe Christ thought that national policies of stealing from other countries was a good thing? I don't think Christ was a capitalist. I always thought of him more as a person who doesn't this government should stop loving each other.

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#13 Jan 17, 2013
Cookie_Parker wrote:
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You believe Christ thought that national policies of stealing from other countries was a good thing? I don't think Christ was a capitalist. I always thought of him more as a person who doesn't this government should stop loving each other.
No, I don't think Christ considers the stealing from anyone is good. Quite the opposite, which is why I feel that defence against an attempted invasion would be acceptable.

Not sure I understand your last sentence here but IMO those in government appear to love themselves more than anything else. I don't trust the majority of politicians.
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#14 Jan 17, 2013
There is only one war for the loving.

The war on hate, much of this having to do with themselves for awhile.

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#15 Jan 17, 2013
angelinaUK wrote:
<quoted text>No, I don't think Christ considers the stealing from anyone is good. Quite the opposite, which is why I feel that defence against an attempted invasion would be acceptable.
Not sure I understand your last sentence here but IMO those in government appear to love themselves more than anything else. I don't trust the majority of politicians.
So, stealing is worse than murder? Because there is nothing in Christ's statements that says "You can murder someone in self defense." That's the laws of man.

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#16 Jan 17, 2013
Cookie_Parker wrote:
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So, stealing is worse than murder? Because there is nothing in Christ's statements that says "You can murder someone in self defense." That's the laws of man.
Stealing and murder are both wrong, in fact perhaps murder could be classed as stealing because a persons life is stolen from them and their loved ones.

If you kill someone in self defence is murder the correct classification?
Maybe it can be classified as suicide because the aggressor should be aware of and accept the risk to themselves when attacking. If they don't attack then they wont get hurt by the defender.

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