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<quoted text>There is no word "Trinity" in the Bible in any version of any language.
THAT'S BECAUSE THE WORD DIDN'T EXIST UNTIL:

Theophilus of Antioch around 180 A.D. first used the Greek term trias (a set of three) in reference to God, his Word, and his Wisdom.
And it wasn't until 215 A.D. that Tertullian became the first to state this doctrine using the Latin term, Trinitas (Trinity), referring to the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit (W. Fulton in the Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics).
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No it's not.
YES IT IS.
"Baptize in THE NAME of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit."

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Jesus is naturally God the same, who was concepted immaculately by Holy Spirit and born, brough up by Holy Virgin Maria.
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I hear a lot from Christians about God’s “infinite compassion and mercy”.

Instead of harping on me about something so unapparent, they should go tell it to the Midianites.(Please open your Bibles to Numbers 31) The following verses are a classic example of wholesale slaughter and rape under the direction of the same God they claim to be so merciful. A quick sample of this tale: On the way to the promised land, God had Moses wage a war campaign against the Midian. Moses was told to put every Midianite to death, plunder anything of value, set fire to their towns where they lived and all their encampments. Moses gave the orders to his troops (the sons of Israel) and went on a further campaign. On the return of his troops Moses was enraged with the commanders of the army. He said,“Why have you spared the life of all the women and children? You are to kill all the children and kill all the women who have slept with a man. The lord says spare the lives only of the young girls who have not slept with a man, and take them for yourselves, so that we may multiply into a great nation.” Yes, friends, this is biblical infinite mercy and compassion for you. I particularly like the way that Moses got upset with them for sparing women and male children, but allowed the young girls to be kept for later raping.

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Wow you guys are lots of fun! I'm so glad I was able to find the truth and break the chains of man made religion. Most people will never be convinced by another to open their eyes to the truth. Most people can only be convinced by themselves only when they are ready.

The best way to find the truth is to READ your holy book which ever flavor it might be and I don't mean the verses cherry picked for church. Then when you come to a verse (there are SO many) that you know beyond a reasonable doubt came from man with no divine inspiration from a deity of any kind you set out to learn how and why it made it into your holy book as the word of God. This is how I got started on a journey that lasted several years thru several religions some of which were truly ancient.

I probably didn't scratch the surface because after I was so sure that all religions were man made that I would bet the life of me and my family I stopped my relentless quest for religious knowledge. It is very time consuming but well worth the effort when you finally uncover the truth. The felling is hard to describe but it feels so much better than the special feeling (placebo effect) we got when we thought we were saved. All we really need is to be saved from religion. I would also suggest not to complicate the process by debating the existence of a god, creation, evolution, etc. When all religions are dismissed as man made we will stop killing each other and stop flying planes into buildings. Then we can work on the hard questions. The good part is unlike every other time in history when an old religion died a new one took its place I think we are past the point of new successful religions like Scientology. So when we finally get rid of religion we should finally be free.

Good luck to each and everyone of you on your quest for the truth. I almost forgot to point out that some people should not seek the truth because they wouldn't be able to handle it. My aunt is a good example. If you would say something like "The only way I will believe Jesus isn't real is if he tells me" you are delusional and there is no help for you unfortunately so you should not seek the truth. You should stay off this site and the internet and just go to church. Try to live out the rest of your life with your current belief intact because it will be best for everybody!

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Allen Richards wrote:
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Five passages, from the list of 86, below, which reveal the Triunity of God. Each passage shows Father, Son, and Holy Spirit having a different relationship, effect, role, etc., with respect to believers.
(1.) 2 Co 13:14 [1] The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and [2]the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost,[3]be with you all. Amen.
(2.) Tit 3:4 But after that the kindness and love of [1] God our Saviour toward man appeared,
5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of [2]the Holy Ghost;
6 Which he [3] shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
(3.) Jud 1:20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith,[1] praying in the Holy Ghost,
21 Keep yourselves [2]in the love of God, looking for [3] the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
(4.) 1 Pet 1:2 Elect according to [1] the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of [2] the Spirit,[Repeated three times, cf. 2 Th 2.13, Ro 15:16] unto obedience and [3] sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ:[Repeated twice, cf. Heb 9.14] Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
(5.) Luk 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her,[1] The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and [2] the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing, which shall be born of thee shall be called [3] the Son of God,.
The Gospels and Acts
Mat 1:18-22, Mat 3:9-11, Mat 3:16-17, Mat 4:1-4, Mat 10:19-23, Mat 12:28, Mat 28:19, Mark 12:35-37, Lk 1:15-17, Lk 1:30-35 *, Lk 1:67-69, Lk 2:25-32, Lk 4:12-13, Lk 10:21, Lk 12:8-10, Jn 1:32-34, Jn 3:31-35, Jn 14:15-17, Jn 14:25, Jn 15:26, Jn 16:7-10, Jn 16:13-15, Jn 20:16-22, Acts 1:4-5, Acts 1:7-8, Acts 2:32-33, Acts 2:38-39*, Acts 4:8-10, Acts 4:24-26, Act 4:29-31, Acts 5:30-32, Acts 7:51-56, Acts 8:14-17, Acts 9:15-20 Acts 10:38, Acts 11:15-17, Acts 11:23-24, Acts 15:7-11, Acts 16:6-10, Acts 20:22-24, Acts 28:23-25.
The Pauline writings
Rom 1:1-4, Rom 5:1-5, Rom 8:9-11, Rom 8:13-16, Rom 8:26-29, Rom 15:12-13*, Rom 15:16*,, Rom 14:15-17, Rom 15:16, Rom 15:18-19, Rom 15:30, I Cor 2:8-10, I Cor 2:14-16, I Cor 6:9-11, I Cor 6:14-19, I Cor 12:3-5*, 2 Cor 1:20-22, 2 Cor 3:3-4, 2 Cor 13:14*, Gal 3:1-5, Gal 4:4-6, Gal 5:21-25, Eph 2:17-18, Eph 3:14-17, Eph 4:4-6, Eph 4:30-32, Eph 5:18-20, Phil 3:3, I Thess 1:4-6, 2 Thess 2:13-14*, I Tim 3:15-16, Titus 3:4-6.*
The General Epistles
Heb 2:3-4; Heb 6:3-6; Heb 9:14*; Heb 10:29-31; I Pet 1:2; * I Pet 3:18; I Pet 4:14; I Jn 3:21-24; I Jn 4:13-14; I Jn 5:6-9; Jud 1:20-21*.
Revelation
Rev 14:12-13, Rev 22:17-18,
No where does it mention trinity, all three being one god

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Jazybird58 wrote:
<quoted text>No where does it mention trinity, all three being one god
Thank you for your irrelevant opinion. What you think the Bible does or does not mention has almost as much validity as the scribblings on a public restroom wall.

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<quoted text>Genocide:
I hear a lot from Christians *** blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah,*** evil religon
Thankfully atheists and other Bible haters cannot dictate "what the Bible really say!"

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ALL RELIGIONS R MANMADE wrote:
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YES IT IS.
"Baptize in THE NAME of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit."
I baptize you in THE NAME of Larry and Curly and Moe.

They're all three genitive case.

Allen can explain it to you. He's a Greek scholar. Just ask him.

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havin use religous lot worked out for your selfs, u were born in heaven, and when your dead, thats it, no god just worm food
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#124
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MUSLIMS believe that Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him) is a messenger from God. He was sent from God Almighty to deliver God's words to his people. Jesus was never God, nor ever claimed to be God. Jesus was a humble wonderful human being just like the rest of the Prophets and Messengers of God. Muslims also believe that Jesus was never crucified, nor ever died on the cross, nor ever wanted to die on the cross, nor ever was sent to earth to die on the cross.
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Well the BIBLE which came before ISLAM says JESUS IS GOD AND HE DIED FOR THE sins of the world. SO you have been lied to by islam so please seek the truth.

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MUSLIMS believe that Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him) is a messenger from God. He was sent from God Almighty to deliver God's words to his people. Jesus was never God, nor ever claimed to be God. Jesus was a humble wonderful human being just like the rest of the Prophets and Messengers of God. Muslims also believe that Jesus was never crucified, nor ever died on the cross, nor ever wanted to die on the cross, nor ever was sent to earth to die on the cross.

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Jesus - is - Muslim wrote:
MUSLIMS believe that Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him) is a messenger from God. He was sent from God Almighty to deliver God's words to his people. Jesus was never God, nor ever claimed to be God. Jesus was a humble wonderful human being just like the rest of the Prophets and Messengers of God. Muslims also believe that Jesus was never crucified, nor ever died on the cross, nor ever wanted to die on the cross, nor ever was sent to earth to die on the cross.
How would Muslims know anything about Jesus from the Quran? It was not written until 600 years after Jesus in a different country. And virtually everything in the Quran about Jesus contradicts the eyewitness accounts of Jesus' own followers.
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ALL RELIGIONS R MANMADE wrote:
Wow you guys are lots of fun! I'm so glad I was able to find the truth and break the chains of man made religion. Most people will never be convinced by another to open their eyes to the truth. Most people can only be convinced by themselves only when they are ready.
The best way to find the truth is to READ your holy book which ever flavor it might be and I don't mean the verses cherry picked for church. Then when you come to a verse (there are SO many) that you know beyond a reasonable doubt came from man with no divine inspiration from a deity of any kind you set out to learn how and why it made it into your holy book as the word of God. This is how I got started on a journey that lasted several years thru several religions some of which were truly ancient.
I probably didn't scratch the surface because after I was so sure that all religions were man made that I would bet the life of me and my family I stopped my relentless quest for religious knowledge. It is very time consuming but well worth the effort when you finally uncover the truth. The felling is hard to describe but it feels so much better than the special feeling (placebo effect) we got when we thought we were saved. All we really need is to be saved from religion. I would also suggest not to complicate the process by debating the existence of a god, creation, evolution, etc. When all religions are dismissed as man made we will stop killing each other and stop flying planes into buildings. Then we can work on the hard questions. The good part is unlike every other time in history when an old religion died a new one took its place I think we are past the point of new successful religions like Scientology. So when we finally get rid of religion we should finally be free.
Good luck to each and everyone of you on your quest for the truth. I almost forgot to point out that some people should not seek the truth because they wouldn't be able to handle it. My aunt is a good example. If you would say something like "The only way I will believe Jesus isn't real is if he tells me" you are delusional and there is no help for you unfortunately so you should not seek the truth. You should stay off this site and the internet and just go to church. Try to live out the rest of your life with your current belief intact because it will be best for everybody!
Thank you for that.... It is so true that some people can't handle the truth. I can relate to your aunt being delusional & I know some people that would as you said say "The only way I would believe Jesus is not real is if he told me". This sounds funny but it is sad that many people are this hopeless.
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Native from Pa wrote:
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Well the BIBLE which came before ISLAM says JESUS IS GOD AND HE DIED FOR THE sins of the world. SO you have been lied to by islam so please seek the truth.
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So the religions that came before Christianity are true because they are much older? The fact that it looks like Christianity copied them is just a coincidence? You have been lied to please seek the truth!
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I have the TRUTH. Jesus said he is the way, the truth, and the life.
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<quoted text>So the religions that came before Christianity are true because they are much older? The fact that it looks like Christianity copied them is just a coincidence? You have been lied to please seek the truth!
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Allen Richards wrote:
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How would Muslims know anything about Jesus from the Quran? It was not written until 600 years after Jesus in a different country. And virtually everything in the Quran about Jesus contradicts the eyewitness accounts of Jesus' own followers.
Give me a break! There were no eyewitnesses! So I can set down with a copy of the Torah and magically fulfill prophecy anonymously decades after the mythical Jesus, disciples, and witnesses were long gone? When you write that there were 500 witnesses that doesn't make it true. Let me guess you will believe until Jesus himself tells you he is a myth? When you ask for something in prayer you get the answer you want because your talking to yourself so anything is possible. Wow 600 years earlier gives you authority! So the religions that came thousands of years before yours must be super duper divine?

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MYTH
I have the TRUTH. Jesus said he is the way, the truth, and the life.
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You are a crackpot.

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<quoted text> Give me a break! There were no eyewitnesses! So I can set down with a copy of the Torah and magically fulfill prophecy anonymously decades after the mythical Jesus, disciples, and witnesses were long gone?

When you write that there were 500 witnesses that doesn't make it true. Let me guess you will believe until Jesus himself tells you he is a myth?
Were you there? How do you know the gospels which purport to be eyewitness accounts are false? Your own argument works against you. "Anybody can sit down and claim that the Bible is all false 2000 years later."
When you ask for something in prayer you get the answer you want because your talking to yourself so anything is possible. Wow 600 years earlier gives you authority! So the religions that came thousands of years before yours must be super duper divine?
Stupidest argument I have ever heard. If someone writes about an event when it happens and someone else writes a different account of the same event 600 years later, which one is more likely to be correct? Any of those religions that supposedly came 1000s of years before Christianity still around?

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Allen Richards wrote:
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Were you there? How do you know the gospels which purport to be eyewitness accounts are false? Your own argument works against you. "Anybody can sit down and claim that the Bible is all false 2000 years later."
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Stupidest argument I have ever heard. If someone writes about an event when it happens and someone else writes a different account of the same event 600 years later, which one is more likely to be correct? Any of those religions that supposedly came 1000s of years before Christianity still around?
Nobody wrote about any events in the Bible 'when they happened'.

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