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Linda

Riverside, CA

#1 Aug 20, 2011
I love Joyce Meyers and she has a calling from God and she like Mary, has followed what God has asked her to do. It is not what she wanted to do, but what she was destined to do. All of you people that have a problem with her "lavish" lifestyle, should stop judging her and start doing an inkling of what she does to spread God's word. Negativity is what distroys so many from coming to believe, as it is just another thing for them to focus on. Joyce does amazing things and if God has chosen to bless her with riches, it is because she deserves it for being a faithful child of Christ! Wake up, look in the mirror and stop judging a women who's gift has helped many, including me to walk a straight path with God! Amen!!!!! Praise the Lord for those who are obedient.

Since: Jul 09

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#2 Aug 20, 2011
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WAKEUP

Tinley Park, IL

#3 Aug 21, 2011
Linda wrote:
I love Joyce Meyers and she has a calling from God and she like Mary, has followed what God has asked her to do. It is not what she wanted to do, but what she was destined to do. All of you people that have a problem with her "lavish" lifestyle, should stop judging her and start doing an inkling of what she does to spread God's word. Negativity is what distroys so many from coming to believe, as it is just another thing for them to focus on. Joyce does amazing things and if God has chosen to bless her with riches, it is because she deserves it for being a faithful child of Christ! Wake up, look in the mirror and stop judging a women who's gift has helped many, including me to walk a straight path with God! Amen!!!!! Praise the Lord for those who are obedient.
Of course you love her (BTW her name is Meyer not Meyers) she helps you justify your greed. She teaches what I like to call the "You Can Have Your Cake and Eat it Too" prosperity gospel message that tells you you can seek after and store up wealth in this life and still enter into the Kingdom of God. The problem is it goes against what Jesus and the apostles taught.

Thomas Aquinas said of greed: "It is a sin directly against one's neighbor, since one man cannot over-abound in external riches, without another man lacking them... It is a sin against God,... inasmuch as man contemns things eternal for the sake of temporal things."

Greed is a sin ... it is idolatry. And scripture is clear that those who are greedy will not enter into the Kingdom of God.
Native

Enola, PA

#4 Aug 21, 2011
Wakeup
You appearently do not read your Bible to well the Bible states a GENEROUS man will PROSPER. So you saying we CANNOT prosper is a lie because the Bible says a generous man WILL prosper and never does it say it is wrong.

Proverbs 11:25
A generous man will prosper; he who refreshes others will himself be refreshed.

So tell me are you JEALOUS of Joyce Meyers? By the way GOSSIP is also a sin and that is what you are doing here GOSSIPING about someone because you LACK. Joyce Meyer is NOT greedy she helps the POOR and has orphanges she has built and if you new anything about greedy people they do NOT do these sort of things. Joyce has done more in a life time then most and you want to sit and point the finger at her? WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR CHRIST? What treasures have you stored up in heaven? Have you built orphanges? have you written books and given some of the away free to help people? see there is alot you do NOT know about Joyce so before you point the finger at her realize one thing 4 of those fingers are pointing back at you!!!!!

Here are some more verses in case you lack Bible knowledge

2 Corinthians 9:16
Remember this: Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously.

Proverbs 28:25
A greedy man stirs up dissension, but he who trusts in the LORD will prosper.

The Bible says those who TRUST in the Lord WILL prosper so why you being so greedy you are JEALOUS of Joyce Meyer and her Ministry to people less fortunate?

By the way I also love Joyce Meyer you know why? Because she has the guts to tell it like it is and she does NOT bring some watered down gospel that most preacher's preach!!!
WAKEUP wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course you love her (BTW her name is Meyer not Meyers) she helps you justify your greed. She teaches what I like to call the "You Can Have Your Cake and Eat it Too" prosperity gospel message that tells you you can seek after and store up wealth in this life and still enter into the Kingdom of God. The problem is it goes against what Jesus and the apostles taught.
Thomas Aquinas said of greed: "It is a sin directly against one's neighbor, since one man cannot over-abound in external riches, without another man lacking them... It is a sin against God,... inasmuch as man contemns things eternal for the sake of temporal things."
Greed is a sin ... it is idolatry. And scripture is clear that those who are greedy will not enter into the Kingdom of God.
Punisher

Yonkers, NY

#5 Aug 21, 2011
Native wrote:
Wakeup
You appearently do not read your Bible to well the Bible states a GENEROUS man will PROSPER. So you saying we CANNOT prosper is a lie because the Bible says a generous man WILL prosper and never does it say it is wrong.
Proverbs 11:25
A generous man will prosper; he who refreshes others will himself be refreshed.
So tell me are you JEALOUS of Joyce Meyers? By the way GOSSIP is also a sin and that is what you are doing here GOSSIPING about someone because you LACK. Joyce Meyer is NOT greedy she helps the POOR and has orphanges she has built and if you new anything about greedy people they do NOT do these sort of things. Joyce has done more in a life time then most and you want to sit and point the finger at her? WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR CHRIST? What treasures have you stored up in heaven? Have you built orphanges? have you written books and given some of the away free to help people? see there is alot you do NOT know about Joyce so before you point the finger at her realize one thing 4 of those fingers are pointing back at you!!!!!
Here are some more verses in case you lack Bible knowledge
2 Corinthians 9:16
Remember this: Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously.
Proverbs 28:25
A greedy man stirs up dissension, but he who trusts in the LORD will prosper.
The Bible says those who TRUST in the Lord WILL prosper so why you being so greedy you are JEALOUS of Joyce Meyer and her Ministry to people less fortunate?
By the way I also love Joyce Meyer you know why? Because she has the guts to tell it like it is and she does NOT bring some watered down gospel that most preacher's preach!!!
<quoted text>
Dont you think that meant spiritually? Not materially?

Or is that yet another contradiction of jesus that was spun to suit the greedy Western tendencies..?

It takes no guts to "tell it like it is!" Xtians have been spouting their version of "what it is" for centuries with no end in sight...doesnt make it right, or the truth.
Punisher

Yonkers, NY

#6 Aug 21, 2011
Native wrote:
Wakeup
You appearently do not read your Bible to well the Bible states a GENEROUS man will PROSPER. So you saying we CANNOT prosper is a lie because the Bible says a generous man WILL prosper and never does it say it is wrong.
Proverbs 11:25
A generous man will prosper; he who refreshes others will himself be refreshed.
So tell me are you JEALOUS of Joyce Meyers? By the way GOSSIP is also a sin and that is what you are doing here GOSSIPING about someone because you LACK. Joyce Meyer is NOT greedy she helps the POOR and has orphanges she has built and if you new anything about greedy people they do NOT do these sort of things. Joyce has done more in a life time then most and you want to sit and point the finger at her? WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR CHRIST? What treasures have you stored up in heaven? Have you built orphanges? have you written books and given some of the away free to help people? see there is alot you do NOT know about Joyce so before you point the finger at her realize one thing 4 of those fingers are pointing back at you!!!!!
Here are some more verses in case you lack Bible knowledge
2 Corinthians 9:16
Remember this: Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously.
Proverbs 28:25
A greedy man stirs up dissension, but he who trusts in the LORD will prosper.
The Bible says those who TRUST in the Lord WILL prosper so why you being so greedy you are JEALOUS of Joyce Meyer and her Ministry to people less fortunate?
By the way I also love Joyce Meyer you know why? Because she has the guts to tell it like it is and she does NOT bring some watered down gospel that most preacher's preach!!!
<quoted text>
But why the lavish lifestyle? Why isnt a modest one better...more inline with Jesus' directions? Why isnt her faith enough to satisfy her? You think she collects those goods because god told her its okay? No, she collects them because its a human weakness to surround oneself with expensive material goods so to show others how BIG and GREAT one is...

You xtians will find any way to justify Sinning for your favorite preacher. Its astounding how you will condemn your neighbor for it - usually out nothing but jealousy - than support and condone if for these Faith Dealers. People you truly even dont know...you're a sycophant. You worship the preacher over the messages of your alleged messiah. Which is a sin.

“so tell me......”

Since: Aug 08

Location hidden

#7 Aug 21, 2011
Punisher wrote:
<quoted text>Dont you think that meant spiritually? Not materially?
Or is that yet another contradiction of jesus that was spun to suit the greedy Western tendencies..?
It takes no guts to "tell it like it is!" Xtians have been spouting their version of "what it is" for centuries with no end in sight...doesnt make it right, or the truth.
I was just about to say something similar to this and then noticed that you beat me to it.:)

Prosperity doesn't have to equal money and worldly goods. Prosperity can come in many forms and one can feel like the most prosperous person on earth without being loaded with money. We are told not to lay up for ourselves treasures on earth and in 1 Timothy 6.5 we are warned about seeing godliness as a means of gain.

Personally I am suspicious of any preacher who espouses the prosperity style Christianity. I've heard too many sermons on "give us some of your money and God will bless you 100 fold"
Yes, maybe God will bless the giver but not neccessarily with money.

“so tell me......”

Since: Aug 08

Location hidden

#8 Aug 21, 2011
Punisher wrote:
<quoted text> Faith Dealers. People you truly even dont know...you're a sycophant. You worship the preacher over the messages of your alleged messiah. Which is a sin.
This is a bit worrying when you keep posting things like this that I agree with. What's occurring?

I do think that there is an almost worshipful attitude toward a lot of these big Tele evangalists. People go to listen to them because of who they are rather than who or what they are preaching about.

Don't want to worry you punisher but you're doing a good job as a Christian teacher here so far today.:)
WAKEUP

Tinley Park, IL

#9 Aug 21, 2011
Native wrote:
Wakeup
You appearently do not read your Bible to well the Bible states a GENEROUS man will PROSPER. So you saying we CANNOT prosper is a lie because the Bible says a generous man WILL prosper and never does it say it is wrong.
Proverbs 11:25
A generous man will prosper; he who refreshes others will himself be refreshed.
So tell me are you JEALOUS of Joyce Meyers? By the way GOSSIP is also a sin and that is what you are doing here GOSSIPING about someone because you LACK. Joyce Meyer is NOT greedy she helps the POOR and has orphanges she has built and if you new anything about greedy people they do NOT do these sort of things. Joyce has done more in a life time then most and you want to sit and point the finger at her? WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR CHRIST? What treasures have you stored up in heaven? Have you built orphanges? have you written books and given some of the away free to help people? see there is alot you do NOT know about Joyce so before you point the finger at her realize one thing 4 of those fingers are pointing back at you!!!!!
Here are some more verses in case you lack Bible knowledge
2 Corinthians 9:16
Remember this: Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously.
Proverbs 28:25
A greedy man stirs up dissension, but he who trusts in the LORD will prosper.
The Bible says those who TRUST in the Lord WILL prosper so why you being so greedy you are JEALOUS of Joyce Meyer and her Ministry to people less fortunate?
By the way I also love Joyce Meyer you know why? Because she has the guts to tell it like it is and she does NOT bring some watered down gospel that most preacher's preach!!!
<quoted text>
I do read my Bible. But I don't think you do. At least not all of it. You pick out a few verses that justify your greed and ignore all the ones that warn us about the love of money, tell us about God's desire that we share what we have with those in need, and those that tells us to seek spiritual riches not material riches.

I try to follow the teachings and example of Jesus. Do you?

Did Jesus or the apostles store up wealth for themselves? Didn't Jesus and the apostles instruct us to share what we have with those in need? Didn't they warn us about greed and seeking after worldly things?

And what GOSSIP are you referring to? What have I said that isn't true? Point it out. Joyce Meyer's lavish lifestyle is common knowledge. All I'm doing is pointing out what the Bible says about her and how she lives. It's God's Word that judges her ... just like it judges you and me.

And no, I'm not jealous.

1 Timothy 6:2-16

These are the things you are to teach and insist on. If anyone teaches otherwise and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching, they are conceited and understand nothing. They have an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions and constant friction between people of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.

But godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into the world, and we can take nothing out of it. But if we have food and clothing, we will be content with that. Those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.
Native

Enola, PA

#10 Aug 21, 2011
Wakeup
Do you? Then you know we are not to down one another right? We are to learn to love and I admit that is hard to do sometimes. She uses her money for the kingdom of God and you cannot prove otherwise. Are you JEALOUS? cause you may have nothing and she has alot??? It is also a sin to want what your neighbor has and complain cause you do not have it.
NOTHING wrong with having material things in life and just cause God has not blessed you that way does NOT mean he doesn't other's.
She IS sharing what she has and I sense a JEALOUS spirit in you.
She gives to the poor and to the homeless and to orphanges she builds and she gives free books and tapes away all the time.
What you said about her is NOT true SHE IS NOT GREEDY but you are a jealous person so go and get rid of your jealous spirit and stop coveting and wanting what Joyce has.
NO it is YOU that judges her GOD has allowed her to have what she has and NOTHING you can say or do will change that... YOU ARE JEALOUS!!!!! I have watched for years and NEVER seen anything that remotely says she is false. She teaches the truth and people like you that ATTACK people like her will also be accountable because NO WHERE in the Bible does it say attack her and try to prove her wrong.
WAKEUP wrote:
<quoted text>
I do read my Bible. But I don't think you do. At least not all of it. You pick out a few verses that justify your greed and ignore all the ones that warn us about the love of money, tell us about God's desire that we share what we have with those in need, and those that tells us to seek spiritual riches not material riches.
I try to follow the teachings and example of Jesus. Do you?
Did Jesus or the apostles store up wealth for themselves? Didn't Jesus and the apostles instruct us to share what we have with those in need? Didn't they warn us about greed and seeking after worldly things?
And what GOSSIP are you referring to? What have I said that isn't true? Point it out. Joyce Meyer's lavish lifestyle is common knowledge. All I'm doing is pointing out what the Bible says about her and how she lives. It's God's Word that judges her ... just like it judges you and me.
And no, I'm not jealous.
1 Timothy 6:2-16
These are the things you are to teach and insist on. If anyone teaches otherwise and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching, they are conceited and understand nothing. They have an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions and constant friction between people of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.
But godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into the world, and we can take nothing out of it. But if we have food and clothing, we will be content with that. Those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.
WAKEUP

Tinley Park, IL

#11 Aug 21, 2011
Punisher wrote:
<quoted text>... You worship the preacher over the messages of your alleged messiah. Which is a sin.
Well said!

If you call yourself a Christian, you MUST follow the teachings and example of Jesus. If you don't you are a hypocrite.

Native

Enola, PA

#12 Aug 21, 2011
Punisher
God does BLESS people with material things and because of that people get jealous.
How am I sinning? I give to the joyce meyer ministry because I KNOW where my money is going toward helping feed the poor and building orphanges and giving free things away to help those less fortunate. Nothing in life is free and you have to have money to do the things she is doing. SO WHAT she has a nice home and car etc that is not bothersome to me.
I do NOT worship Joyce Meyer I WORSHIP JESUS CHRIST who spiritually lives inside of Joyce Meyer.
To bad you do NOT know the difference!!!!
Punisher wrote:
<quoted text>But why the lavish lifestyle? Why isnt a modest one better...more inline with Jesus' directions? Why isnt her faith enough to satisfy her? You think she collects those goods because god told her its okay? No, she collects them because its a human weakness to surround oneself with expensive material goods so to show others how BIG and GREAT one is...
You xtians will find any way to justify Sinning for your favorite preacher. Its astounding how you will condemn your neighbor for it - usually out nothing but jealousy - than support and condone if for these Faith Dealers. People you truly even dont know...you're a sycophant. You worship the preacher over the messages of your alleged messiah. Which is a sin.
Native

Enola, PA

#13 Aug 21, 2011
Wake up
That makes you a hypocrite since the Bible says to LOVE and you are trying to BELITTLE Joyce Meyer.
I follow the teaching of Jesus and so does Joyce Meyer.
FEED THE HUNGRY, CLOTHE THE NAKED, GIVE WATER TO THOSE WHO ARE THIRSTY.... Do you do those things EVERYDAY??? Joyce Meyer does on a daily basis and until you do YOU HAVE NO ROOM to judge her!!!
WAKEUP wrote:
<quoted text>
Well said!
If you call yourself a Christian, you MUST follow the teachings and example of Jesus. If you don't you are a hypocrite.
Native

Enola, PA

#14 Aug 21, 2011
Punisher
I believe it can mean BOTH. Who are we to tell God if he can bless someone with money or not? If God wants to allow Joyce to have nice things who are you to say otherwise?
Christianity does have the TRUTH because JESUS IS THAT TRUTH and Jesus says he is the WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE. You have to take things up with God NOT me if you do not like this.

be back later
Punisher wrote:
<quoted text>Dont you think that meant spiritually? Not materially?
Or is that yet another contradiction of jesus that was spun to suit the greedy Western tendencies..?
It takes no guts to "tell it like it is!" Xtians have been spouting their version of "what it is" for centuries with no end in sight...doesnt make it right, or the truth.
WAKEUP

Tinley Park, IL

#15 Aug 21, 2011
Native wrote:
Wake up
That makes you a hypocrite since the Bible says to LOVE and you are trying to BELITTLE Joyce Meyer.
I follow the teaching of Jesus and so does Joyce Meyer.
FEED THE HUNGRY, CLOTHE THE NAKED, GIVE WATER TO THOSE WHO ARE THIRSTY.... Do you do those things EVERYDAY??? Joyce Meyer does on a daily basis and until you do YOU HAVE NO ROOM to judge her!!!
<quoted text>
The more you talk the more you show how little you understand.

Didn't Jesus confront the religious leaders about their hypocrisy?

You can rant and rave, and continue to JUDGE me all you like. I realize nothing I can say can open your eyes. I suggest you turn the TV off and study the Bible for yourself. God willing your eyes may be opened so you can be saved.
Mart

Miami, FL

#16 Aug 21, 2011
Native wrote:
Wakeup
You appearently do not read your Bible to well the Bible states a GENEROUS man will PROSPER. So you saying we CANNOT prosper is a lie because the Bible says a generous man WILL prosper and never does it say it is wrong.
Proverbs 11:25
A generous man will prosper; he who refreshes others will himself be refreshed.
So tell me are you JEALOUS of Joyce Meyers? By the way GOSSIP is also a sin and that is what you are doing here GOSSIPING about someone because you LACK. Joyce Meyer is NOT greedy she helps the POOR and has orphanges she has built and if you new anything about greedy people they do NOT do these sort of things. Joyce has done more in a life time then most and you want to sit and point the finger at her? WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR CHRIST? What treasures have you stored up in heaven? Have you built orphanges? have you written books and given some of the away free to help people? see there is alot you do NOT know about Joyce so before you point the finger at her realize one thing 4 of those fingers are pointing back at you!!!!!
Here are some more verses in case you lack Bible knowledge
2 Corinthians 9:16
Remember this: Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously.
Proverbs 28:25
A greedy man stirs up dissension, but he who trusts in the LORD will prosper.
The Bible says those who TRUST in the Lord WILL prosper so why you being so greedy you are JEALOUS of Joyce Meyer and her Ministry to people less fortunate?
By the way I also love Joyce Meyer you know why? Because she has the guts to tell it like it is and she does NOT bring some watered down gospel that most preacher's preach!!!
<quoted text>
You've clearly been brainwashed by the "name it and claim it" "prosperity gospel" LIARS, WHO SAY DONATING TO THEM IS GIVING TO GOD.

WHEN did THEY become "God"?

http://www.christconnection.net/id2.html
Mart

Miami, FL

#17 Aug 21, 2011
All those who've donated to the Joyce Meyer so-called "ministry" (to minister means "TO SERVE"), because they were told that GIVING MONEY TO HER IS EQUIVALENT TO "GIVING TO GOD" and are presently unemployed, or their homes are being foreclosed, SHOULD WRITE HER AND ASK HER TO HELP YOU.

Perhaps she'll sell the $23,000 gold and marble TOILET she bought with your $10,$20 and $50 donations and help you out.

Word to the wise: DON'T HOLD YOUR BREATH.

http://www.christconnection.net/id2.html
Native

Enola, PA

#18 Aug 21, 2011
WAKE UP
I understand alot more than you think I do.

Oh so you can JUDGE Joyce, but I cannot judge you? HYPOCRITE !!!

I understand GOD says JUDGE NOT lest YOU be judged in the same manner!!!! The same judgment you pour out on Joyce will be returned to you because GOD is the final judge NOT you and IF Joyce is doing anything wrong HE will take care of her!!!!

For your information, I do NOT own a tv and I do spend time in the word EVERYDAY and according to my Bible it says YOU should NOT be judging Joyce Meyer or do you NOT read the Bible?

I AM SAVED !!!! and you cannot do one thing about that. Jesus is MY Lord and my God and I have confessed my sins to him and repented of them and asked him to by my salvation.

JUDGE NOT lest you be judged in the same manner!!!!!

be back later
WAKEUP wrote:
<quoted text>
The more you talk the more you show how little you understand.
Didn't Jesus confront the religious leaders about their hypocrisy?
You can rant and rave, and continue to JUDGE me all you like. I realize nothing I can say can open your eyes. I suggest you turn the TV off and study the Bible for yourself. God willing your eyes may be opened so you can be saved.
Native

Enola, PA

#19 Aug 21, 2011
by meant be my salvation
WAKEUP

Tinley Park, IL

#20 Aug 21, 2011
Native wrote:
WAKE UP
... so you can JUDGE Joyce, but I cannot judge you? HYPOCRITE !!!
<quoted text>
That was my point. You say I shouldn't judge Joyce Meyer, but then you judge me. What does that make you?

For the record I don't mind being judged. Go ahead and judge me all you like. Just make sure you are rightly judging me according to the Word of God.

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