Does the Bible Reveal that a Marriage...
Preacher

Cicero, IL

#62 Dec 26, 2012
Marriage is NO HOLY COVENANT AT ALL anymore!!! It is IDOLATRY!(1 Corinthians 7:1) Man has Allready FAILED the Lord in the Garden of Eden, therefore man has NO RIGHT to walk the Earth anymore!
Preacher

Cicero, IL

#63 Dec 26, 2012
It even says so again in 1 Corinthians 7:8!
Giovanni Labile

Aliso Viejo, CA

#64 Jul 1, 2015
Rose wrote:
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The Bible is Bronze Age superstition. If people want to follow those beliefs, fine. But they should not be our laws. And there is no good argument against gay marriage.
I find interesting when people says things like The Bible is Bronze Age superstition and never opened the Book ones can you please explain how The Bible describes the earth as suspended “upon nothing ?(Job 26:7)” just to mention one of the many accurate Scientific statement the Bible talks about . maybe you believe the earth is suspended over some elephants that stand on a turtle, as some popular myths of ancient times had it” I think Gay People should have the right to leave together and have the same rights of straight people, my argument against gay marriage is the Marriage isn't something that belong to me or you was established by God and limited to a Man and a Woman and He hates the miss use of it even between a Man and a Woman ( Malachi 2:16 For I hate* divorce,”+ says Jehovah the God of Israel,“and the one who covers his garment with violence,”* says Jehovah of armies.“And guard yourselves respecting your spirit, and you must not deal treacherously.) homosexuals were not happy with calling there union a civil union but wanted to appropriate of the marriage institution for reason that go way beyond of having the same rights as everybody else, is a direct challenge to God and what they believe fallow him calling them self Christians, true Christians are few and i don't hate gay people but bothers me how the feel entitled of having the right to get Married.

Reading along

Charlotte, NC

#65 Jul 1, 2015
Giovanni Labile wrote:
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I find interesting when people says things like The Bible is Bronze Age superstition and never opened the Book ones can you please explain how The Bible describes the earth as suspended “upon nothing ?(Job 26:7)” just to mention one of the many accurate Scientific statement the Bible talks about . maybe you believe the earth is suspended over some elephants that stand on a turtle, as some popular myths of ancient times had it” I think Gay People should have the right to leave together and have the same rights of straight people, my argument against gay marriage is the Marriage isn't something that belong to me or you was established by God and limited to a Man and a Woman and He hates the miss use of it even between a Man and a Woman ( Malachi 2:16 For I hate* divorce,”+ says Jehovah the God of Israel,“and the one who covers his garment with violence,”* says Jehovah of armies.“And guard yourselves respecting your spirit, and you must not deal treacherously.) homosexuals were not happy with calling there union a civil union but wanted to appropriate of the marriage institution for reason that go way beyond of having the same rights as everybody else, is a direct challenge to God and what they believe fallow him calling them self Christians, true Christians are few and i don't hate gay people but bothers me how the feel entitled of having the right to get Married.
http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article...

What Are the Differences between Marriage and Civil Unions?
There are significant differences between the benefits and responsibilities of marriage and civil unions. People who are married usually enjoy more benefits than those in civil unions, including:

Legal recognition of the relationship in other states
The ability to divorce in any state, regardless of where married
Tax benefits available to married couples only
Immigration benefits when petitioning for a non-citizen spouse
Federal benefits, such as social security, medical, and life insurance
- See more at: http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article...

“too hard to handle”

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#67 Jul 3, 2015
Nettiebelle wrote:
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Jesus never addresses homosexuality, or explicitly discusses same sex marriage anywhere in scripture.
No, but stated that "not one yoth or tittle" meaning vowel pointing, or anything be changed in the old testament, including homosexuality being sin.
garywickert

Piscataway, NJ

#69 Aug 5, 2015
Genesis 2:24 Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.

Matthew 19:3-12 Then some Pharisees came to him in order to test him. They asked,“Is it lawful to divorce a wife for any cause?” 4 He answered,“Have you not read that from the beginning the Creator made them male and female, 5and said,‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and will be united with his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”

dollarsbill

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#70 Aug 5, 2015
garywickert wrote:
Genesis 2:24 Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.
Matthew 19:3-12 Then some Pharisees came to him in order to test him. They asked,“Is it lawful to divorce a wife for any cause?” 4 He answered,“Have you not read that from the beginning the Creator made them male and female, 5and said,‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and will be united with his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”
Amen!

Rom 1 "vile" "men with men" "reprobate mind" "God gave them up"

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#71 Aug 6, 2015
Giovanni Labile wrote:
I find interesting when people says things like The Bible is Bronze Age superstition and never opened the Book ones can you please explain how The Bible describes the earth as suspended “upon nothing ?(Job 26:7)” just to mention one of the many accurate Scientific statement the Bible talks about.
Was the bible scientifically accurate when it made numerous unsubstantiated supernatural claims, i.e., a man living inside the belly of a big fish for 3 days before being spitted out on dry land; the sun being stuck at 12 noon for 12 continuous hours (which meant the earth stopped moving); the parting of the Red Sea; countless people being raised from the dead; a donkey speaking, etc.
Giovanni Labile wrote:
maybe you believe the earth is suspended over some elephants that stand on a turtle, as some popular myths of ancient times had it”
Please explain how this belief would be any more ridiculous than the previous ones that I mentioned.
Giovanni Labile wrote:
I think Gay People should have the right to leave together and have the same rights of straight people, my argument against gay marriage is the Marriage isn't something that belong to me or you was established by God and limited to a Man and a Woman and
As long as you obey what you believe your God commanded, then I totally agree that gay marriage might not be for you. However, when the Supreme Court ruled, it made your beliefs irrelevant to those who wish to marriage someone of the same sex, right?
Giovanni Labile wrote:
He hates the miss use of it even between a Man and a Woman ( Malachi 2:16 For I hate* divorce,”+ says Jehovah the God of Israel,“and the one who covers his garment with violence,”* says Jehovah of armies.“And guard yourselves respecting your spirit, and you must not deal treacherously.)
Please know that your belief does not have universal power, but rather a power that is only limited to those who believe in it.
Giovanni Labile wrote:
homosexuals were not happy with calling there union a civil union but wanted to appropriate of the marriage institution for reason that go way beyond of having the same rights as everybody else, is a direct challenge to God and what they believe fallow him calling them self Christians, true Christians are few and i don't hate gay people but bothers me how the feel entitled of having the right to get Married.
From what I gather, homosexual were not happy with being denied their human rights by the heterosexual community. And by the way, the biblical definition of marriage was simply about transferring the ownership of a woman from her father to her new husband. And if she was not a virgin at the time of the transfer, she could be stone to death ... according to your Holy Bible.
little lamb

Port Augusta, Australia

#72 Aug 6, 2015
Jesus said,

"Have you not read that He who created them from the beginning MADE THEM MALE AND FEMALE,

and said,'FOR THIS REASON A MAN SHALL LEAVE HIS FATHER AND MOTHER AND BE JOINED TO HIS WIFE, AND THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH '?

"So they are no longer two, but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate."

Jesus has authoritatively spoken and taken us back to the beginning where there were only TWO made ONE FLESH ,,,not half a dozen .

God only took out one rib...he didn't take out all Adams ribs LOL.

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#73 Aug 7, 2015
little lamb wrote:
Jesus said,
"Have you not read that He who created them from the beginning MADE THEM MALE AND FEMALE,
and said,'FOR THIS REASON A MAN SHALL LEAVE HIS FATHER AND MOTHER AND BE JOINED TO HIS WIFE, AND THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH '?
"So they are no longer two, but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate."
Jesus has authoritatively spoken and taken us back to the beginning where there were only TWO made ONE FLESH ,,,not half a dozen .
God only took out one rib...he didn't take out all Adams ribs LOL.
Please know that according to the bible, the beginning was Gen 1, not Gen 2. As such, please know that in Gen 1, God did not take anything from a man to make a women, but rather made them simultaneously. Furthermore, it was Adam (not God) who claimed, "a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh" (Gen 2:24). Thus, please know that Jesus (1) took us back to Gen 2 as opposed to Gen 1, and (2) was repeating what Adam said, as opposed to what God did in Gen 1:27, i.e., "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."
Anointed of Jesus Christ

San Antonio, TX

#74 Aug 7, 2015
little lamb wrote:
Jesus said,
"Have you not read that He who created them from the beginning MADE THEM MALE AND FEMALE,
and said,'FOR THIS REASON A MAN SHALL LEAVE HIS FATHER AND MOTHER AND BE JOINED TO HIS WIFE, AND THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH '?
"So they are no longer two, but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate."
Jesus has authoritatively spoken and taken us back to the beginning where there were only TWO made ONE FLESH ,,,not half a dozen .
God only took out one rib...he didn't take out all Adams ribs LOL.
The Jehovah's Witness organization is a false doctrine occult, of the devil.

True or false?
little lamb

Melbourne, Australia

#75 Aug 7, 2015
gundee123 wrote:
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Please know that according to the bible, the beginning was Gen 1, not Gen 2. As such, please know that in Gen 1, God did not take anything from a man to make a women, but rather made them simultaneously. Furthermore, it was Adam (not God) who claimed, "a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh" (Gen 2:24). Thus, please know that Jesus (1) took us back to Gen 2 as opposed to Gen 1, and (2) was repeating what Adam said, as opposed to what God did in Gen 1:27, i.e., "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."
I just quoted what Jesus said

I believe Jesus

Don't have a problem with male and female being mankind.
Anointed of Jesus Christ

San Antonio, TX

#76 Aug 7, 2015
little lamb wrote:
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I just quoted what Jesus said
I believe Jesus
Don't have a problem with male and female being mankind.
The Jehovah's Witness organization is a false doctrine occult, of the devil.

True or false?
little lamb

Melbourne, Australia

#77 Aug 7, 2015
Anointed of Jesus Christ wrote:
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The Jehovah's Witness organization is a false doctrine occult, of the devil.
True or false?
Word 'organization' not found in scripture

Neither is the word 'denomination'
Anointed of Jesus Christ

San Antonio, TX

#78 Aug 7, 2015
little lamb wrote:
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Word 'organization' not found in scripture
Neither is the word 'denomination'
Jehovah's Witnesses—Official Website: jw.org
www.jw.org/
Official web site of Jehovah's Witnesses
Jehovah's Witnesses: Our official website provides online access to the Bible, Bible-based publications, and current news. It describes our beliefs and ..
Anointed of Jesus Christ

San Antonio, TX

#79 Aug 7, 2015
Caught you!

lol

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lol

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#80 Aug 7, 2015
little lamb wrote:
I just quoted what Jesus said
I believe Jesus
Don't have a problem with male and female being mankind.
Well, do you believe Jesus when He said that you must hate your parents, wife, kids, and yourself in order to be His disciple? Further, do believe Him when He said that disobedient sons must be put to death?

dollarsbill

Since: Jul 12

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#81 Aug 7, 2015
gundee123 wrote:
Further, do believe Him when He said that disobedient sons must be put to death?
The Law of Moses was ONLY for Israel, nobody else.
little lamb

Melbourne, Australia

#82 Aug 8, 2015
gundee123 wrote:
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Well, do you believe Jesus when He said that you must hate your parents, wife, kids, and yourself in order to be His disciple? Further, do believe Him when He said that disobedient sons must be put to death?
I believe Jesus ...he taught the prodigal son

And in Jesus teaching the Father allowed the son to leave his home and live a debauched life , and in that condition he was ""dead"" " to the Father .

But when the Father saw his son coming home from a distance ..he went out to meet him .

And as he said to the older son ' we must rejoice , for your brother who was lost has now been found , he was dead and now he is alive again .'

So the Law that had them literally put to death was just ...and the death penalty is upon all who break the Law...on sins like dishonoring parents , males who lay with males the same as a woman , murderers , adulterers and fornicators .

John 1:17

'For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.'

Don't misunderstand the time of grace ..by Jesus taking the penalty for our sins , we are forgiven by the blood of Jesus ....forgiveness is being offered on the basis of the fact that Jesus has carried our sins upon his own body , that we may be done with sins and live to righteousness .

Your understanding of what Jesus means about parents , is the fact that in following Jesus it will take putting him above everything , even your own life ....

and that is very hard , so to be a Christian means weighing things up.

Picking up your cross /stake and following him daily.

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#83 Aug 8, 2015
dollarsbill wrote:
<quoted text>The Law of Moses was ONLY for Israel, nobody else.
Yes, we finally agree on something (smile).

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