No .. we are NOT all the children of God

No .. we are NOT all the children of God

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“Life Force One”

Since: Mar 09

The Spiritual Universe

#2 May 14, 2011
mandad wrote:
I hear this statement all the time ..
"well .. ya know .. I mean .. after all ..
no matter who we are and where we come from ..
when its all said and done ... we are ALL God's children."
Now .. I'm not sure where this statement derives from .. but it has no Biblical basis in fact .... I hope this thread will find its self void of all the minnie minds who simply look for places they can park their anger and angst aginst those who simply would like to display God's truth ( according to His Word / the Bible)... If you would like to participate in this thread .. please clarify this Biblical principle by placing additional scriptures that hold this truth consistant .. if you dis-agree .. please display the scriptural backing for your position .... I will start with one of my favorite verses in the New Covenant ...
John 01:09 The true light that gives light to every man was coming into the world .. He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognise him .. He came to that which was his own ( the Jews ), but his own did not receive him .. Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God .. children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God.
If we are not >>>ALL<<< God's "children", then how in the hell did we >>>ALL<<< get here?

And as much as I hate to quote from your stupid book, just so you cannot weasel out from this obvious fact, that the real God created >>>ALL<<< souls:

Genesis 1:21
And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

Genesis 1:27
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Genesis 5:1
This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;

Deuteronomy 4:32
For ask now of the days that are past, which were before thee, since the day that God created man upon the earth, and ask from the one side of heaven unto the other, whether there hath been any such thing as this great thing is, or hath been heard like it?

Isaiah 42:5
Thus saith God the Lord, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:

Malachi 2:10
Have we not all one father? Hath not one God created us?...

And "its self", LMFAO.

Since: May 11

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#3 May 15, 2011
It is a fact that we are NOT all of God! Jesus told many of the Jews (His very own people!) The reason you do not accept Me (believe on Me) is because my words have no part in you!

He also told those who were always wanting a sign that they were of their Father the Devil and his works they will do!

HE also said: If you will not believe that I Am He, then believe for the very works that I do! His miracles proved Who He was, but still, many didn't believe!

He also said "I Am the way, the truth, and the life, No man cometh to the Father but by Me."
So who's children are they who don't believe in Christ? They surely aren't God's.

God created Adam & Eve, but the rest of us were pro-created.

We are all born into this world in sin which means we are born separated from God spiritually. The new birth is what brings us back to God.

Our first birth is a physical one, but the second birth (for those who receive it) is a spiritual birth.

You must put your faith in Christ, not in your church, church attendance, or any other good works. He and He alone can save!!!!!!!

“Life Force One”

Since: Mar 09

The Spiritual Universe

#4 May 15, 2011
Rand M Sutor wrote:
It is a fact that we are NOT all of God! Jesus told many of the Jews (His very own people!) The reason you do not accept Me (believe on Me) is because my words have no part in you!
He also told those who were always wanting a sign that they were of their Father the Devil and his works they will do!
HE also said: If you will not believe that I Am He, then believe for the very works that I do! His miracles proved Who He was, but still, many didn't believe!
He also said "I Am the way, the truth, and the life, No man cometh to the Father but by Me."
So who's children are they who don't believe in Christ? They surely aren't God's.
God created Adam & Eve, but the rest of us were pro-created.
We are all born into this world in sin which means we are born separated from God spiritually. The new birth is what brings us back to God.
Our first birth is a physical one, but the second birth (for those who receive it) is a spiritual birth.
You must put your faith in Christ, not in your church, church attendance, or any other good works. He and He alone can save!!!!!!!
Which is exactly what demons demand, blind obedience and worship. The real God doesn't.

“Life Force One”

Since: Mar 09

The Spiritual Universe

#8 May 15, 2011
mandad wrote:
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It would be correct to say that ..
we are all created in God's image ..
but that would not ( by default ) classify us as his children.
if it did .. John 1:12 would make no sense
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Because God IS love .. we have a capacity to love
Because God IS just .. we have a capacity to desire justice
Because God HATES .. we have a capacity to hate sin and depravity ( we usually don't )
So if you have some children, they are not your children, got it.

“Life Force One”

Since: Mar 09

The Spiritual Universe

#9 May 15, 2011
mandad wrote:
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It would be correct to say that ..
we are all created in God's image ..
but that would not ( by default ) classify us as his children.
if it did .. John 1:12 would make no sense
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Because God IS love .. we have a capacity to love
Because God IS just .. we have a capacity to desire justice
Because God HATES .. we have a capacity to hate sin and depravity ( we usually don't )
And BTW - Only your demonic "god" hates. The real God doesn't.

“Life Force One”

Since: Mar 09

The Spiritual Universe

#10 May 15, 2011
mandad wrote:
1) God does not send his children to Hell
Exactly!

The REAL God does send his children to hell, because he loves >>>ALL<<< souls and does not punish. So there is NO Satan, Hell, eternal burning lake of fire, nor any other form of damnation. He only does everything in his power to help them >>>ALL<<< spiritually evolve.
mandad wrote:
2) one cannot be a child of God and at the same time a child of Satan
As already stated, Satan does not exist. And even if he did, he is suppose to be spiritual in nature, so cannot procreate.

“Life Force One”

Since: Mar 09

The Spiritual Universe

#12 May 16, 2011
mandad wrote:
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Oh, really .. so tell me about this "real-god" you speak of ..
I curious.
The real God is the vast and all powerful soul/spiritual mind energy Deity who creates, maintains, and controls the universe. God IS the universe.

The real God is >>NOT<< egotistical, jealous, cruel, hateful, or vengeful like the Christian "god" is. So there is no Satan, Hell, eternal burning lake of fire, or any other form of punishment or damnation. He only does everything in his power to help >>>ALL<<< souls spiritually evolve. And he opens Heaven to >>>ALL<<< souls that spiritually evolve enough to pass their judgment.
Anonymous

United States

#13 May 17, 2011
Seen Is Awesome wrote:
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The real God is the vast and all powerful soul/spiritual mind energy Deity who creates, maintains, and controls the universe. God IS the universe.
The real God is >>NOT<< egotistical, jealous, cruel, hateful, or vengeful like the Christian "god" is. So there is no Satan, Hell, eternal burning lake of fire, or any other form of punishment or damnation. He only does everything in his power to help >>>ALL<<< souls spiritually evolve. And he opens Heaven to >>>ALL<<< souls that spiritually evolve enough to pass their judgment.
So according to your description above your God is not Just. It would allow a man who raped a woman to go unpunished. I'm not even talking about Hell, but just simple on this earth consequences of such an act. But speaking of Hell-what do you do with Evil if it never turns good because there is evil in this world that wants nothing to do with spiritual growth. Somehow it must be destroyed.
Your God is also not Holy because it is not Just and how can an unholy God move humans into spiritual growth?

“Life Force One”

Since: Mar 09

The Spiritual Universe

#16 May 17, 2011
Rosewood73 wrote:
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So according to your description above your God is not Just. It would allow a man who raped a woman to go unpunished. I'm not even talking about Hell, but just simple on this earth consequences of such an act.
LMFAO

Thanks for showing your twisted hatred for others beliefs and spiritual ignorance.

But of course you are talking about vengeance here, not being just.

All children make mistakes, and their parents try to correct them. Just like the real God does. Puts them into situations that help them learn and spiritually evolve, however easily or difficult they may be. For he is patient, he has all eternity to wait for the slow ones. That is just.
Rosewood73 wrote:
But speaking of Hell-what do you do with Evil if it never turns good because there is evil in this world that wants nothing to do with spiritual growth. Somehow it must be destroyed.


There you go again! But I understand that because you must be a Christian who worships a evil demonic MISrepresentation of a "god" who has all the lower emotions like hatred, wrath-fullness, vengeance, torture, etc. So you cannot grasp the concept that the REAL God is all loving to >>>ALL<<< souls.

And >>>ALL<<< souls are immortal and cannot be destroyed. For even the evil ones are part of his plan.
Rosewood73 wrote:
Your God is also not Holy because it is not Just and how can an unholy God move humans into spiritual growth?
Again, you are just lashing out because you hate all others beliefs and cannot grasp how just and fair the real God is like. You obviously like your demonic Christian "god", so throw out this "straw man" argument that doesn't even make any sense.

“Life Force One”

Since: Mar 09

The Spiritual Universe

#17 May 17, 2011
mandad wrote:
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Yeah, I've heard this story before ....
For although they knew God .. they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him .. but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened ... Although they claimed to be wise .. they became fools ... and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles ... Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another .. They exchanged the truth of God for a lie .. and worshipped and served created things rather than the Creator .. who is for ever praised .. Amen
"God IS the universe" .. well .. maybe YOUR god is .. but this thread is about the God of scripture and whether or not we are ALL God's children .. according to the bible.
this "God IS the universe" should be on another thread
Why, that description describes you spiritually clueless and man-"god" worshiping buffoons almost perfectly!!

For you have no real "god", just a man made myth of one.

And you asked, so get off your pretend holier than thou arrogant high horse, and stop crying and whining just because you didn't like the answer. Because I'll continue to post about the real God to counteract your evil lie of a "god".

“Rohingya is Bengali.”

Since: Mar 11

Save Myanmar!

#18 May 23, 2011
If we are all the children of God, there must be some bad children aka black sheep.

Since: Dec 09

Chicago, IL

#19 May 24, 2011
mandad wrote:
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Yeah, I've heard this story before ....
For although they knew God .. they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him .. but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened ... Although they claimed to be wise .. they became fools ... and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles ... Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another .. They exchanged the truth of God for a lie .. and worshipped and served created things rather than the Creator .. who is for ever praised .. Amen
"God IS the universe" .. well .. maybe YOUR god is .. but this thread is about the God of scripture and whether or not we are ALL God's children .. according to the bible.
this "God IS the universe" should be on another thread
If you had any understanding of God, you wouldn’t insult people who didn’t.
What you believe is true about God is not knowing God - if you knew God, you’d know that.
So la-dee-dah back at you.

Since: May 11

Alpharetta, GA

#20 May 24, 2011
Ricardo da Silva wrote:
If we are all the children of God, there must be some bad children aka black sheep.
Grin:

Succinctly said, Ricardo!

Why is it that you never answer my letters nor return my phone calls?

Here is a riddle for you:

One day God was looking down at earth and saw all of the bad behavior that was going on. So He called one of His angels and sent the angel to earth for a time.

When he returned, he told God,'Yes, it is bad on earth; 99% are misbehaving and only 1% are not.

God thought for a moment and said,'Maybe I had better send down a second angel to get another opinion.'

So God called another angel and sent him to earth for a time. When the angel returned he went to God and said,'Yes, it's true. The earth is in decline; 99% are misbehaving, but 1% are being good.'

God was not pleased. So He decided to e-mail the 1% who were good, because he wanted to encourage them, and give them a little something to help them keep going.

Do you know what the e-mail said?

Grin [:)
jeb

College Station, TX

#21 May 24, 2011
Yes some of us are children of satan. Satan can be a creator too if he/she wants.

Since: May 11

Alpharetta, GA

#22 May 24, 2011
jeb wrote:
Yes some of us are children of satan. Satan can be a creator too if he/she wants.
Grin Reaper Responds (GRR):

What are you implying about your Mom there, jeb???

Nahh ..., that can't be true. You're only kidding ..., RIGHT??

Grin [:o)

“Rohingya is Bengali.”

Since: Mar 11

Save Myanmar!

#23 May 24, 2011
mandad wrote:
1) God does not send his children to Hell
2) one cannot be a child of God and at the same time a child of Satan
If God does not send his children to Hell, so who sends them to hell.

Everybody has two parents, mother and father.
One can be a child of God and at the same time a child of Satan.
Once a Catholic priest said to me that don't be somewhat a child of God and somewhat a child of Satan.

Why did he say like that?
I was not learning Bible lessons from Catholic priests but from non-certified preacher.
Both the Catholic priest and non-certified preacher are men of God but they are rival to one another.

“Life Force One”

Since: Mar 09

The Spiritual Universe

#28 May 25, 2011
mandad wrote:
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Well .. those who are not God's children are not not God's children because of their behavior .. their "behavior" is because they are spiritually dead .. alive to the world but dead to God .. there is no LIFE in them .. they have no LIGHT ... even God's children can do bad things ... but there STILL God's children
http://www.beliefcorner.com/index.php/topic,2... DADMAN
A perfect example of how Christinsanity poisons one soul with the doctrine of hating others.

But luckily >>>ALL<<< souls are "children of God".

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Albuquerque

#31 May 26, 2011
mandad wrote:
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I guess I need to remind you ...
Now .. I'm not sure where this statement derives from .. but it has no Biblical basis in fact .... I hope this thread will find its self void of all the minnie minds who simply look for places they can park their anger and angst aginst those who simply would like to display God's truth ( according to His Word / the Bible)... If you would like to participate in this thread .. please clarify this Biblical principle by placing additional scriptures that hold this truth consistant .. if you dis-agree .. please display the scriptural backing for your position ....
That's funny, a guy stupid enough to believe in talking snakes talking about 'minnie minds' and demanding that arguments be backed by mythology. You're a hoot.
Jesus Is

Doncaster, Australia

#33 May 27, 2011
Seen Is Awesome wrote:
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The real God is the vast and all powerful soul/spiritual mind energy Deity who creates, maintains, and controls the universe. God IS the universe.
The real God is >>NOT<< egotistical, jealous, cruel, hateful, or vengeful like the Christian "god" is.
Do you mean that the real God is someone who would say this:
EZEKIEL 33:11
"Say to them,‘As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live. Turn! Turn from your evil ways! Why will you die, people of Israel?"
Seen Is Awesome wrote:
<quoted text>
So there is no Satan, Hell, eternal burning lake of fire, or any other form of punishment or damnation. He only does everything in his power to help >>>ALL<<< souls spiritually evolve. And he opens Heaven to >>>ALL<<< souls that spiritually evolve enough to pass their judgment.
What does he do with the soles that don't spiritually evolve enough?
Jesus Is

Doncaster, Australia

#34 May 27, 2011
Seen Is Awesome wrote:
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A perfect example of how Christinsanity poisons one soul with the doctrine of hating others.
But luckily >>>ALL<<< souls are "children of God".
Christians who 'poison souls with doctrines of hating others' aren't true Christians and aren't following what Jesus taught:

Luke 6:27 "But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you,
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Luke 6:28 "bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you."
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Mathew 5:44-45
"But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust."

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